Bush lifts his father’s ban on offshore oil drilling, page 1
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reply posted on 14-7-2008 @ 08:20 PM by anglodemonicmatrix
reply to post by nahsik


The job is done Bush Senior,Cheney and their robber baron mates have stripped everything including things bolted down and the US is headed for a train wreck so now it doesn't matter anymore to supress US oil exploration and development in order to milk the masses.


reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 07:22 AM by vor78
reply to post by Shazam The Unbowed



The Congressional ban expires on September 30th of this year.

This was done for one reason and one reason only: to help McCain and other Republican candidates this fall. Bush is forcing a major political fight on the issue in the last month of the campaign.


reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 07:20 AM by Krieger
reply to post by Shazam The Unbowed



Except... The Oil Companies refuse to drill. The Democrats are actually tying to force the Oil Companies to drill for oil but the Republicans are trying to block it. I kid you not, the Democrats are trying to FORCE OIL COMPANIES TO DRILL BUT THE REPUBLICANS ARE BLOCKING IT BECAUSE THE OIL COMPANIES REFUSE TO DRILL!

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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:30 PM by Shazam The Unbowed
Originally posted by vor78

The Congressional ban expires on September 30th of this year.

The congressional ban expires every year. And is renewed every year. Thats how the ban was designed.


This was done for one reason and one reason only: to help McCain and other Republican candidates this fall. Bush is forcing a major political fight on the issue in the last month of the campaign.


Its an issue which deserves to be fought for.

Originally posted by Krieger

Except... The Oil Companies refuse to drill. The Democrats are actually tying to force the Oil Companies to drill for oil but the Republicans are trying to block it. I kid you not, the Democrats are trying to FORCE OIL COMPANIES TO DRILL BUT THE REPUBLICANS ARE BLOCKING IT BECAUSE THE OIL COMPANIES REFUSE TO DRILL!


Not quite. That bill is actually designed to strip currently held leases away from oil companies.

You see your falling into the "lease = oil" fallacy.
The problem is once land has been leased then
1) there must be environmental, geologic and geographic studies done to determine if thier might be oil on it.
2) If condition indiate there should be oil and environmental studies show that a company can explore without undue environmental impact then
3) test wells have to be drilled, and if oil is shown to be economically recoverable, the oil companies must then get government approval actually begin large sacle drilling, including another environmental impact assesment.
4) then after oil wells have been erected,
5) oil companies must then get permission from the government to actually pump the oil out of the ground.

Even when all this has happened, even after spending millions on exploration, studies, test wells, etc, the federal government still refuses pumping permits for more than half of all applicants.

The idea that the oil companies are spending millions of dollars every year on leases in order to refuse to devlop them is simply stupid.


reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 05:36 PM by vor78
reply to post by Shazam The Unbowed



Don't get me wrong. I agree with you and fully support additional offshore drilling. I'm simply willing to call a spade a spade, and in this case, the Republicans are using it as a political sledgehammer.

I don't necessarily have a problem with that, either.

I'm also in full agreement on the issue of the oil leases. If it were economically viable to do so, the oil companies would have to be idiotic not to be pushing as much oil to market as possible at current prices. The only conclusion I can reach is one similar to yours: for whatever reason, it apparently is not economically viable to drill on those tracts of land at this current time. Forcing them to do so anyway?
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