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Is pornography better than sex?

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posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by Herman
You're right that a zygote starts out as a female before the Y chromosome is added, but to call another gender a disease? That's beyond going too far. It's in a completely different ballpark.


LOL…I did not say men WERE a disease, I said “Species that do not have disease do not have males. Males exist for the purpose of mixing dna.” And yes I realize saying only disease was shorthand but it was late and I was making a quick comment. The fact is early forms of life did NOT have males, they evolved later as a survival mechanism in hostile environments.


Originally posted by Herman
Personally, I don't think dating purely for sex is worth it. That's way too much work for something that I really don't consider to be THAT amazing, at least not on the level that some do. I guess, even though a year ago I never thought I'd say it, nothing beats a really deep, emotional connection with another person. And having sex with the person you share that connection with? Pretty awesome.


Well that sounds like the ops point, getting the real deal is often too much hassle. A year ago I could not imagine thinking it was too much hassle, but lately I have been thinking the same thing. And for me it is easier, I date guys and many of them are much much easier than women, in fact it can require a minimal amount of effort but even that seems like too much for something that may not be all that good anyway.


Originally posted by Herman
What can I say? Although everythingyoudespise did hit on something when he said it's kind of like a competition. It seems like the times when I was almost wishing for it to just be over (don't get me wrong...still pretty good.) were the times that she thought it was the most amazing thing in the world.


Now from my experience really great sex is always a two way street. The best sex involves great chemistry and that takes all the thinking and competition out of it. I have never seen it as a competition. But that just may be my perception, I have had people tell me “that was great” when I really didn’t think so, but I just assumed they hadn’t had any for a while or they have no clue what good is.




posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:08 PM
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This may be off the subject a little. But to the op(everythingyoudespise) is your zodiac sign Aries? Thanks for the answer bro!



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Infamous-Chase
This may be off the subject a little. But to the op(everythingyoudespise) is your zodiac sign Aries? Thanks for the answer bro!


OH so you are back?
Isn't a bridge missing you?



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:29 PM
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[edit on 19-7-2008 by Infamous-Chase]



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:34 PM
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Oh so you admit to being banned and starting a new account?
Honey, I don't need a bloody week to be a pain in the ass.



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:43 PM
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[edit on 19-7-2008 by Infamous-Chase]



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:45 PM
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Nice avoidance of the question.
Now off to a NON TROLL THREAD.
I'm on a new TROLL free diet.
Toodles!



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by AccessDenied
reply to post by Infamous-Chase
 


Nice avoidance of the question.
Now off to a NON TROLL THREAD.
I'm on a new TROLL free diet.
Toodles!


Child, I don't know you.



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:53 PM
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Say what you like..and edit what you like.
You ARE being watched.
DUH!



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:55 PM
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Anyways!



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 10:08 PM
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I'm not sure what my sign is, but I don't think it's Aries. I was born in February.

Not that I pay too much attention to that sort of thing.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Sonya610
Well that sounds like the ops point, getting the real deal is often too much hassle. A year ago I could not imagine thinking it was too much hassle, but lately I have been thinking the same thing. And for me it is easier, I date guys and many of them are much much easier than women, in fact it can require a minimal amount of effort but even that seems like too much for something that may not be all that good anyway.


Yeah, then if you'd also like to include "Getting there," I'd say the OP does indeed have a point. I was thinking along the lines of having sex with someone you already know...like your girl or boyfriend. In fact, I've never had sex with someone just for the sex, and I really don't plan to. So I guess I'm no expert on that, and yeah, if you consider "easier" to be "better," then you could say that porn is better.


Now from my experience really great sex is always a two way street. The best sex involves great chemistry and that takes all the thinking and competition out of it. I have never seen it as a competition. But that just may be my perception, I have had people tell me “that was great” when I really didn’t think so, but I just assumed they hadn’t had any for a while or they have no clue what good is.


I'd say the times when both partners are thoroughly enjoying themselves would be the "best." I didn't mean that I see it as a competition, just that the OP did touch on something in that a lot of times, it does wind up with one person enjoying it a lot more than the other, and that's kind of odd.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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The simple truth is that real men don't seek out porn, because they know that it reduces them to users and consumers of other human beings. Instead of respecting and valuing other humans for thier dignity and worth, porn reduces the people featured to mere objects that are used for nothing more than selfish gratification. That is no way for humans to interact with one another, and it never will be, no matter how many men and women happen to fall prey to the addictive trap of porn.

I totally agree with this.

bmonculture.wordpress.com...


(post by tarallo removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Jan, 23 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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As a low-functioning Asperger, I find sex requires way too much social contact, which I find infinitely boring, and since that doesn't quite make the libido go away, I find porn a workable substitute.

What's more I find relationships to be a sort of aggrandized mutual ego masturbation. The author of M5 points out on more than a few occasions that the standard heterosexual relationships have the effect of short-circuiting the spirit, as they are based upon the activation of primitive and easily controlled (by meddlers and the Matrix control program) DNA. The result is endless posturing and the desire to 'possess the female/male'. And since it's such a basic instinct, it is easy to buy into the romanticized idea of it. Every second movie involves a love story, and it's almost always a standard heterosexual affair, filled with virtue signaling and posturing. All sorts of behaviors that keep us into experiential loops and away from reconnecting with Source/Spirit. (For the record, I'm straight, unlike the author of M5 with whom I agree with.)

Heck. 95% of people buy into the 'happily ever after with SO' idea, even if most of them do not consider themselves religious or 'gullible'. But it's just another control mechanism of the Matrix Control System. And until one grows out of it, he/she will naturally ride the experiential loop for as long as one finds it thrilling and/or enjoyable. But it's all a strictly physical experience, albeit masquerading as a spiritual one, and is far removed from what the Spirit ultimately desires out of the incarnational experience. (beyond a few rounds of experiential loops)

So.. from that perspective, I find porn to be a nice alternative for those of us who have no desire for relationships or even human contact for that matter. I don't think that necessarily requires you to be on the autistic spectrum, but of course - it's especially valid if you are. Good porn is like an art form. If done right, it can be pretty and refreshing.
edit on 23-1-2018 by Rhaegar7 because: clarifications



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:33 AM
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originally posted by: EverythingYouDespise
I'm not the kind of person who gets excited about celebrity gossip, but all of those unavoidable news reports about supermodel Chrstie Brinkley's divorce got me thinking. Especially the bit about how her husband spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on Internet pornography. I'll elaborate below, but my basic thesis is that using pornography by yourself is quite often preferable to actual sex with a partner, especially if the partner is someone you've already slept with on a regular basis. Before I delve too far into this, I should point out that most of this does not apply to sex with a good prostitute, although the monetary cost can be prohibitive.

First of all, sex is hardly ever as good as you hope it will be going in. With pornography, there are lower expectations. The end result is pretty much the same, but our perception is obviously going to be much different and this favors the less highly built-up activity.

Secondly, as this Brinkley story shows (in addition to the countless similar stories of people who lose their attraction to very attractive people once they've bedded them a couple of times), no matter how much of a knockout your partner may be, you'll eventually grow tired of her charms and start looking for the next one. It's basic genetics. Human beings - like most animals - are wired to spread their seed to as many targets as possible in order to guarantee a higher likelihood of passing their genes down. Of course, nowadays most sex is not intended to conceive children, but the genetic tendancies are still there.

In addition, sex with a partner limits the extent of your pleasures, to varying degrees. With pornography, you can look at anything that happens to arouse you - from mild fetishes to the completely outrageous. On a related note, if you're worried about trying to please another person at the same time, it's going to be mediocre for both parties. This is another reason I stated that sex with prostitutes is exempt from my theory. You can do pretty much anything you can imagine to a prostitute if you have enough money. Just ask Elliot Spitzser.

Another reason porn beats sex is that it takes less work and (in most cases) less money and you can get as much of it as your body can handle - not somebody else's. There's no hassle of having to chat strangers up at the bar or the reverse problem of having to figure out how to get said person out of your house when you're done with them, or worrying about getting stalked or screwed over in divorce court once you break a relationship off. Again, I endorse prostitutes. I believe it was Charlie Sheen who wisely stated that, "You don't pay prostitutes to have sex with you.... You pay them to leave once they're done!"



And with all that said, who knows your body better than yourself? Do you want some other person down there fooling around with your business equipment when you've been handling things just fine since your youth?

To wrap things up, I want to make sure you are able to separate "sex" from "relationships". I know the fellas out there are completely with me here, but a lot of you women are thinking, "This is absurd! If I don't have sex I can't have a relationship, and then I can't get married and have kids! And I don't need porn to get off anyway!"

Calm down, ladies. Just because you have sex with your boyfriend or husband every once in a while doesn't mean you can't have alone time every day to make sure it's done right. And I know most of you don't watch porn, but just know this - your boyfriends and husbands still do, and that's not a bad thing. It's natural.


[edit on 14-7-2008 by EverythingYouDespise]
Yes, if you want permanent and nearly irreversible psychological damage.



posted on Feb, 9 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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Sorry, but a real life threesome or more will beat watching a porn threesome (or anything else) any day of the week.

I can agree with the OP on many points, but my statement above stands.

Of course, I never did quite understand the T&C on these types of posts, so for all I know, this comment will be nixed. I just don't understand the puritanical mindset on this topic.
edit on 9-2-2018 by Gazrok because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 9 2018 @ 05:13 PM
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I think pornography is better...




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