Is pornography better than sex?

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posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 05:51 PM
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reply to post by LordChase
 


That was quite rude and uncalled for. In fact I seriously doubt you get much at all, if you did you would not have such a nasty attitude.




posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 05:57 PM
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i found this to be an interesting concept, once you get over the face-value of the question.

I think the main factor in this question revolves around how much you value human interaction. If human interaction is secondary, or even unnecessary with orgasm being the primary objective, than I would say yes, porn is better than sex (with another person) for several reasons, not the least of which include bypassing emotional, self-esteem and personal issues that everyone has.

On the other hand, if human interaction is the driving factor, than there is no way in hell that porn could even compare. At least, none that I'm aware of, but please feel free to U2U me any links that could prove otherwise, lol.


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posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 06:14 PM
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posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 06:18 PM
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Wow, there seems to be an unusually high influx of guys this on the boards lately.
Balancing out your lack of a real social life with an inflated ego on a message board perhaps?



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 06:22 PM
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-If you say so.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 06:43 PM
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Addressing the ops question, no doubt porn is a LOT less hassle, and if that is what single people choose that is fine. If they are in a relationship and they choose porn to the point they are ignoring their partners needs, that is of course a problem (or if their wife finds the porn and freaks out, that is also a problem).

Since you (op) don’t seem to actually like interacting with women outside of sex, and they are apparently pretty annoying during sex on many occasions, I think porn is a good alternative. There is no point in frustrating yourself and frustrating the people you are sleeping with when one can have their needs met in an easier, quicker way.

However if one finds they are into “taboo” topics because they are forbidden, realize that usually leads to frustration in the end. What’s new and wicked one day becomes mundane after a while, so something newer and more wicked must be found, and eventually there is nothing taboo left. That is not a healthy pursuit.


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posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 08:15 PM
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Well, now that I have seen the "Free Porno" Thread I'll have to say that it is not better than sex, but It is mildly stimulating!



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by snowflake_obsidian
reply to post by EverythingYouDespise
 


You just made a contradictory statement. You complained about how women apparently can't pleasure their partners selflessly but then basically said there is something wrong with men who do.


I disagree that the statement in question is indeed contradictory. Men and women are completely different, and they're genetically wired to have sex for different reasons. Women, subconsciously or not, are driven to find and secure a monogamous partner to inseminate them and raise children with. Men, on the other hand, just want to knock up as many different women as possible in order to leave behind a high number of offspring. Of course, they didn't realize this consciously. Nature just made men enjoy getting off and made men unsatisfied with one partner. They don't have to actually raise the children so there's no need for an emotional bond to be formed between any of the impregnated females or the resulting offspring.

Now, to translate that to modern human society:

These genetic predispositions take thousands, maybe millions of years to evolve. Human civilization has lapped natural evolution so many times by now that most of your instincts are obsolete.

But because of the habits of ancient hunter gatherers, human women have sex with a single partner in order to propagate. Men are motivated by carnal pleasure alone.

Only in recent years, with the rise of feminism and the women's rights movement (which, in many cases, only served to encourage women to ignore their instincts so that they can act more like men) have women become so sexually "liberated". In most cases, this is a good thing. We certainly don't want you to be prudes, but when it comes to pleasures, men deserve to be serviced first.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by LordChase
I just want to say that there is a thin line(dental floss thin) between women being real and porn not. These women are programs just like the porn they only have so many options. Personally, I have never been able to speak to any women about real subject matters, that I would like to speak about. They have their limits just like the porn. Afterall these women aren't rocket scientist or anything close to it. So conversation is severely limited. OP(everythingyoudespise), what do you think about my theory?

[edit on 16-7-2008 by LordChase]


What do I think of your theory?

Well, I think there's some truth in it. Especially when dealing with the superficial breed of image-obsessed Los Angeles girls who tend to play off a "ditz" image even when they're actually somewhat intelligent.

The thing is, if a female has been attractive for her entire life she isn't encouraged to act like she's very smart. It works in her favor to use her charms to get what she needs rather than rely on actual skills or brains. So most of the girls who end up being interesting to talk to are the ones who were too fat or ugly to get by with their looks.

I find that even though there are some pretty interesting and intelligent girls who are good-looking enough, they've got manipulation issues or attention issues and aren't worth the trouble anyway.

So don't bother trying to make friends with females. That's not what they're for.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 09:47 PM
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Ok, for what it's worth...here is my two bits.

First I must say, that there IS no straight answer to this question, in my opinion. It is too generalized to be winnable for either side. Now, if you broke it down further, such as, which do you prefer, sex with someone who sucks in bed, vs. porn with (insert some oddity that would make MOST anyone very NOT turned on), then one could pick. You know, the whole, "would you rather....or..." game.

I hope I don't offend anyone here, and I am sure eventually I will, but that is never my intention. I see tons of threads on ATS/BTS that I would love to get in on, but I don't feel like I have anything constructive to say, or in the words of a hero of mine, there is nothing I can say, that I haven't thought before.

I am under the assumption that I can speak rather blunt and truthful, while yet remaining tactful, and not break any international treaties.

So, here goes.

First, I'm going to be critical of me real fast, so you know kinda where this is coming from. I'm 6ft tall, 170 lbs, I am not a supermodel, I'm just a regular guy. (who usually has a 2 day old scruffy face) I am sure I have seen my better days, I am 28, my hair doesn't grow long so easy, and I have changed my ways about a lot of things since the "good old days" of chasing the ladies. (I'm not saying I'm not interested in women, but I CERTAINLY don't chase anymore.) No more making sure I'm dressed to kill, no more waxing my vehicle twice a week, and frankly, if a woman doesn't like me when she meets me in my (insert whatever band shirt I have on, usually Zep/Nirvana/Floyd/etc) t-shirt, well.....she doesn't need me and I don't need her anywho. Saves us both some time that way....and possibly saves some hassle as well.
That said...

I've had a lot of sex. I'm not bragging. I had a job when I was 16, I went to the USMC at 18, I was married almost 4 years. Like I said, I've had a lot of sex. I figure, most people have.

OK, theres sex. Then, there is sex with someone who really DOES turn you on, I mean, not just the thought of sex, guys, but HER.....something in the way, she moves?
Then, there is sex, that is bad. Outright awful, "why did I even bother?" sex. Yep, you know guys, the ones that you laid it on a little too thick with, that you'd rather die than wake up beside in the morning, but oh well, done deed...time to sleep....3.2.1.out.
(Ladies, I will assume that some of you have had those feelings before, but I don't expect anyone to admit anything.
)
And this will bring me to my link to porn. (Girls, take note. This is where you will find reasons to call me names, more than likely.)

There is NOTHING in this world, like having a woman, who #1, you can communicate with on many levels. To me, if that isn't there, I might as well get paid by the hour for the sex, because it's just work, anymore.
But, a woman like that, who is comfy with herself, hell, even who likes herself and thinks she is sexy, that isn't the least bit conceited outside the bedroom, but knows how to drive you wild without putting a hand on you, oh man...... Come on guys, admit it....those of you who have had those g/f's / beneficial friends / whatever, that you come home, to find dressed up as sexy as imaginable..... you KNOW, those are the times, that, if you are anything like me, resonate in your mind, whenever you REALLY think, "what would make me HORNY...oh YEA, I remember.....damn..."
Now, to focus on the porn deal.
I dunno about EVERYONE, but I see porn as a tool for different purposes. I DO believe that ppl get addicted to it, but I think some people can get addicted to anything. Here's the deal though. Guys, does just ANY old porn do it for ya? I mean, be real with yourself, at least. Do you grab, whatever? Or does everyone have certain things, that REALLY turn them on? (Ladies, same thing for you? I dunno.)
Porn, replaces GRATIFYING SEX, and gives you control.
Thoughts?



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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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Also OP, are there any secrets about the opposite sex that you would like to share with us? My game is good, but I'm still young, so I lack wisdom.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 01:42 AM
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to the op: you do know that those women in porn get PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAID to ACT like they'd screw anything that came their way right?



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by Mad_Hatter
Is pornography better than sex?

Hmmm...I believe JediMiller can help you out with the answer to that question. If you want to avoid contact with women all together I advise that you build yourself a Star Wars dungeon in your mother's basement and lock yourself into it. Make sure you have a computer with the internet on it as your only means of sex and contact with the outside world. Like this:


Provided courtesy of creepylonersthatliveintheirmothersbasement, Inc. and JediMiller's ATS Member Space.

This will guarantee that you become an expert on the subject of internet pr0n, as no living thing with a female reproductive organ will want to come near you!



[edit on 7/16/2008 by Mad_Hatter]

[edit on 7/16/2008 by Mad_Hatter]



lmao. jedi just can't catch a break can he.


come on now mad, don't hate cause jedi's been with over 300 women and you haven't.


[edit on 17-7-2008 by LordInfamous]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by Sonya610
Ask them and they will all say exactly the same thing, they like older women because "older women know what they want" and "they don't play games like younger women".
[edit on 16-7-2008 by Sonya610]


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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 10:19 AM
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Porn is cool, I noticed the quality is not as good as it used to be. Scoring with a chick is cool as long as it is healthy. My boss had a saying "after five minutes you lose interest anyway"



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by EverythingYouDespiseAlso, older women are less attractive than their younger counterparts. A lot of them are overweight, too. Perhaps this also explains why some guys like them. If one has low self-esteem, it's easier to feel comfortable with someone who is less attractive than yourself.


Thats not why younger guys like older women. And often low self-esteem has nothing to do with it, there are some very hot younger guys that regularly date older women.

Ask them and they will all say exactly the same thing, they like older women because "older women know what they want" and "they don't play games like younger women". That can be translated into "their sex drive is as high, or higher, than mine and they are up front about what they want".

And while it is true that many older women have weight problems, or had their bodies torn up from child birth, there are others that are in very good physical shape.

[edit on 16-7-2008 by Sonya610]


older chicks rock, I wish I was in my prime in the 80s and early 90s. Those were the most beatiful women I have ever seen. I wonder where they all went though. If you ever watch porn from the 80s or 90s those chicks with curly hair rule!!!!!!!!!! They also look way more developed than people these days.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by Maybach Hanson

Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by EverythingYouDespiseAlso, older women are less attractive than their younger counterparts. A lot of them are overweight, too. Perhaps this also explains why some guys like them. If one has low self-esteem, it's easier to feel comfortable with someone who is less attractive than yourself.


Thats not why younger guys like older women. And often low self-esteem has nothing to do with it, there are some very hot younger guys that regularly date older women.

Ask them and they will all say exactly the same thing, they like older women because "older women know what they want" and "they don't play games like younger women". That can be translated into "their sex drive is as high, or higher, than mine and they are up front about what they want".

And while it is true that many older women have weight problems, or had their bodies torn up from child birth, there are others that are in very good physical shape.

[edit on 16-7-2008 by Sonya610]


older chicks rock, I wish I was in my prime in the 80s and early 90s. Those were the most beatiful women I have ever seen. I wonder where they all went though. If you ever watch porn from the 80s or 90s those chicks with curly hair rule!!!!!!!!!! They also look way more developed than people these days.


They're all meth addicts now, sellin' their body so they can score a hit. They don't look develop anymore.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 02:20 PM
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I think some of you that prefer porn more than likely sell out too often, to the point that sex has become old to you; it has become a drug, and you aren't getting the high that you expect to get.

You've been given this false perception of sex from porn because typically normal couples do not have five other men involved, and do not involve the family dog in their activities.

Maybe thats not what floats your boat, but like Hollywood movies, the realism of what is being depicted in professional pornography is exaggerated for thrill and excitement.

I'm not in the least bit ashamed to say that I am a virgin. Its sad that I seem to have a better grasp of the concepts of sex as well as pornography than many of you do, who are more than likely older than I am. Perhaps it is a maturity issue.

You're entitled to your own opinions of women and sex & pornography, no matter how "rude", "insensitive" or "distasteful" those opinions are, but laying your insecurities and immaturities on females by broadly stroking females, as a whole, as being "stupid", "moody", "selfish" or what ever other word you use is incorrect and self centered.

You know full well that not every woman is like that. Perhaps it is just your inability to properly judge and/or appreciate a woman's personality before you are intimately involved that leads you to being disappointed.

Slow down, get to know her and enjoy it, rather than jumping right in to sex. You're not in high school anymore. Act like it.

EDIT: Spelling & Grammar

[edit on 7/17/08 by NovusOrdoMundi]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
I'm not in the least bit ashamed to say that I am a virgin. Its sad that I seem to have a better grasp of the concepts of sex as well as pornography than many of you do, who are more than likely older than I am. Perhaps it is a maturity issue.


BADABING !! Ah damn, I just had to see that written on this page again, lolol. That was just too priceless.

With that attitude, your first time with a partner will be a far greater experience than any damn website !! heh

Misfit





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