I nearly passed over this thread until I recalled my last conversation with my baby brother back home. He was complaining of fatigue and aches in his joints especially his neck. Now mind you this is a guy you would normally have to tie to a tree to get him to stop moving around. He has been hyper as far back as I can recall and was never on meds for it. Now recently he looses it? My wife was a very active person but now she has 2 modes; at work & asleep. I am noticing myself that I get fatigued quicker these days but I figured my age was finally catching me. Maybe not. I would fall back on an old culprit and say subliminal messages thru the tv but that disqualifes me as this computer is the only screen I ever look at.

Wouldnt it be nice if we could treat the government like a video game that the kids play? "Crap we messed up that level. Hit the RESET BUTTON and lets start over."

Damn Chemtrails...
All day everyday they are spraying our Earth with something?..

Ahh the mysteries...Just fight it, get your body up, don't give up. Exercise!

Something is definitely wrong. I just feel it. My friend and colleague, Dr. Hans Staffenhaal claims that time has slowed to an unnoticable fraction of what it previously was. He calls it the Schlepp Effect. He has nodded toward the Collider as being the probable cause.

well i know why everyone's tired.

its what you're all eating. since i changed my diet i havent been tired anymore and i pretty much never get sick or flus. also i never get headaches anymore whereas i used to get them every day. Now to me, it seems everyone is always getting sick or coughing except me.

the secret is DIET. ive told people but no one believes me.

go to your local chinese doctor and ask them what you should be eating to stay healthy and keep your immune system functioning. also chinese herbs will give you ENERGY. lots of it.

first, change your water supply. you need fresh water and clean water not filled with chemical junk. rainwater is probly better than town water. you need the flouride removed and good healthy minerals in the water, not crap. so everyone's drinking crap water. they are even putting flouride in bottled water now.

everyone drinks coke and softdrink. apart from aspartame, they're full of sugar and will suppress your immune system making you get sick.

same thing with all sugar products: lollies, cakes, brownies, hot chocolates etc , which is what most people live on these days. sugary teas, or coffee etc.

step one: eliminate sugar from your diet. except mayple syrup/honey occasionally. or at least make it a RAREITY. since i stopped eating sugar and dairy, now i never get headaches. however if it DO eat sugar, say a choc chip cookie or a lolly, i now notice an IMMEDIATE headache, about one minute after eating it. and i used to live on the stuff - no wonder i had headaches and migraines all the time.

step two: i no longer eat dairy. i no longer get mucus in my mouth and bad breath and also this has helped eliminate my headaches. i think milk is for baby animals, not adults, and i dont think grown humans are meant to drink it. the chinese word for cheese is solid mucus.
i think it gives people headaches and contributes to ill health. ive felt much healthier so has my family, since we stopped drinking it.

step three: ive cut out red meat. there are studies that suggest red meat causes inflammation which is linked to disease - like cancer, heart disease. my family has switched to organic white meat only and in small doses - as a garnish; not a huge portion, and mainly fish. only a few times a week, not every night. its a good idea to go vego for a few nights. or eat an (organic free range) egg.

i think hormones injected into meat is making everyone sick and tired too. they are making our own hormones go haywire and giving everyone cancer.

every notice the most advertised and promoted foods on tv are: SUGARY FOODS, RED MEAT, and DAIRY PRODUCTS? and kfc with hormone filled chickens of course. all BAD for you.

how many adds for healthy food products do you ever see?

then people eat packaged food filled wiht chemicals and preservatives that each individually can cause cancer and depress the immune system; and vegies covered with pesticides that will cause parkinsons' disease, and people wonder why they're always sick and tired and unhealthy?

you're supposed to live predominantly on fresh vegetables. then some fruit. then grains, nuts, seeds, chickpeas, beans etc.

how many people eat THAT every day? Not many.

what is your body running on then?

CRAP. is the answer.

you put crap fuel into your car, it wont go. it'll stall. like your body is doing.

as for drinking; how many people drink a lot of pure, chemical free water? no one. people drink fatty cappucinos, hot chocolate, milk or soft drinks.

caffeine inhibits b vitamin absorption and is bad for you. yet people love coffee. also making you ill.

people are running on sugar, which is not adequate to fuel the body. hence they are always tired. the body is fuelled principally by vegetables. and no one eats them.

also people should be eating herbs every day. many herbs fight disease and illness. and are good to maintain health. GARLIC is important. cinammon is anti bacterial. drink herbal teas, they're good for you. green tea is better than black or coffee. VEGETABLE JUICE is the way to go. or some fruit juice.

seaweed and mushrooms are good; seaweed for iodine. cows will go down to the sea and eat seaweed did you know? if they can. must know its good for you. anti cancer properties as well - wakame seaweed is really good.

i really think thats the main reason why everyone's tired all the time and sick all the time. i think if you eat right your immune system should be strong and you should hardly EVER get sick. if you have a flu, you have done something wrong or eaten the wrong thing/not eaten the right thing.

also i think over work, stress, not enough exercise, boredom, sitting in an office all day, having no leisure time etc are all contributing to the 'sickness'.

funny how african bushmen only work 4 hours per day to get food. the rest is leisure time.

they have more free time than we do!! and are happy and relaxed.

most of us are slaves in cubicles, working for YOU KNOW WHO. making MONEY for them.

MONEY. the root of all evil. and these people control it.

our whole society is built on a rotten foundation. sorry to say it. we could learn some things from the bushmen.

Originally posted by asala
Well i have tryed to make some big changes in my food ect, I now each fresh food cook everything from scratch, i dont have any packet meals, Drink more water, Work out, Have more Vegs, ect ect,

Im trying to regain what it was they say our bodys used to be like before the fast meals ect,

ever notice how people in the 70s were THIN. they were ALL THIN. look at old movies itc.

now we would say they are emaciated. but the truth is everyone is getting FATTER. what would have been fat back then is now NORMAL.

this is a sign of unhealthy diet and ill health, due to the crap we are all eating nowadays. no home cooked meals; build up of chemicals and pesticides in our food and environment.

with what ppl eat each day and the chemicals they are exposed to it is a MIRACLE that most people are not dead. the body is amazing to be able to keep so many unhealthy people still functioning at all.

LETS TALK CHEMICALS:

PESTICIDES. in your backyarad garden. in agri business farms, on your grocery store vegetables and fruit, in shops where you walk past or work and get exposed there; from aerial spraying. and now BEES are being affected and dying - altho that could be gm stuff.

GM AND NANO PARTICLES. studies have shown links to organ failure, and cancer and disease from gm food. but its all the go, and no labelling either. the sunscreen you use probly has nano particles that could be giving you cancer. lots of sunscreen adds in australia lately. you CAN get chemical free sunscreen from your health shop.

SHAMPOO AND CONDITIONER: full of parabens and harmful chemicals. health shop ones are chemical free.

SOAP, BODY WASH, DEODERANT, HAIR SPRAY. see above. all full of chemicals. need to replace with health shop stuff. body cant deal with this huge load of chemical products it has to take.

AJAX, CLEANING PRODUCTS, DETERGENT: same thing. more chemicals. need to seek chemical free options, safe products. in health shops.

TOOTHPASTE: Flouride. seek health shop toothpaste.

MAKEUP. may contain mercury. ask health shop.
or read labels to make sure chemical free; only healthy ingredients. you put it on your face every day.

POWER LINES. houses built too near powerlines gives kids leukemia; and causes cancer clusters. mobile phone towers probly too.

CLOTHES: soaked in formaldehyde. very harmful. wash before wearing. you can SMELL it in some shops very strongly. it makes my eyes water and i cant breathe.

wash pillows, blankets when new. same thing.

INDUSTRIAL WASTER.

AIR POLLUTION: office blocks have more co2 than outside on street due to air con etc. photocopiers are dangerous i readd somewhere.

EAT YOUR SEEDS; no one eats apple seeds, apricot seeds, cherry seeds, peach seeds 00= you have to crack them open to get at th ewalnut like seed inside. has b17 anti cancer. also watermelon seeds are good. we're breeding seeds out of fruit. bad move. like an egg, they contain building blocks to grow a plant. very beneficial and healthy to eat some. if very bitter, dont overdo it as it means the dose is strong. eat sparingly if bitter. use common sense.

Fantastic thread, great replies!

I personally think that with all the stresses of life people are just mentally worn out. Nobody has time for the leisurely activities they enjoy, or they simply cant afford them anymore. Life is all about working, paying the morgage, paying for this and that. Money has corrupted everything and become the center of life, whereas family used to be the focus. Now even holidays are tainted as they have become increasingly materialistic over the years. Christmas is a great example of this, and I never realised it more than this year after I was bombarded with thousands of ads proclaming how much my kids would love me if I bought them this or that. It was disgusting and put me right off the holidays.

Life is no longer satisfying because money is essentially NOTHING! There is something missing in our lives that we are trying to replace with money and things.

No wonder everyone is exhausted. Run on the hamster wheel long enough and your feet are bound to get tired.

Everyone is tired because maybe they are stressed out or worried. If I go to London I worry about terrorism and stuff and that in it self uses a lot of mental energy while walking about or taking the trains.

David Icke would think the Reptiles are using our stress levels to feed off us.

Another theory is vampire sucking aliens who feed off our plasma, this may explain why feel their energy is going down, they live in space or upper realms. Maybe the Chemtrails have a secret reason afterall.

A lot of it for me is spiritual stress that uses up a lot of energy, thinking about God or the Bible uses too much energy and I need a break from it now and then.

Well I've been feeling tired since 2009-10... But right now... I can't even get up from bed sometimes, even though I sleep for hours. I sleep 12-13 hours, I can't get up... I just want to lay there.
I am actually very active, I have many things to do around the day but I just feel so tired, I just want to sleep foreveeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....

What is going on!!!

My theory is that people are increasingly being burdened with knowledge about the world and themselves. This doesn't just include family and friends and community but it includes other communities, your country, other countries, other animals, plants, oceans, ecosystems and more succinctly, the entire planet. The information age is wiring us all together and we're bombarded with too many to count disasters and worries. All of these things have always happened, but we're just becoming more aware of them.

That and we're all aging. Your friends are all getting older. Things that you knew and cared about are forgotten. People you loved had their lives cut short. We see the end of our life on the horizon. This is especially true when you're middle age. By the time you're old, you're so numb and slowed that you can't care. But it's the climb up that's the hardest part because you have to let go of the past. Some say that old age is sweet like a banana that sits in the sun, but soon it molds and a dead person can feel no joy.

We live our lives to overcome. But we can't overcome death. We're humans, not super heroes. We can't prevent a lot of things. Every day we hear about things that shouldn't have happened but happened anyway. It's an impossible challenge. If you're lucky, you can handle your own life and then some. But we all feel the limits of our abilities, whether we're great or small. There's always something a person can't do. There's always a regret that hangs over you. Things you wish could have happened differently.

As a result of this, we try to think positively and focus on the future, but always our mind is on the past. People we knew. Things we saw. It's a whirlwind of everything we know. We're more than just the future. We're emotional beings. As emotional beings, we become attached to existing things. They might solely exist in our own mind, but usually these things exist in our memory because they entered into our mind from elsewhere. If something doesn't exist in the mind, we're not emotionally connected to it. So try as we will to focus on the future and not on the past, it's a futile effort with not enough solid foundation.

The future is too fuzzy. Too unknown. It's unwritten. How can we love a blank piece of paper? By contrast, our memories define the reality we love, the people we care about, the things we adore. It's our reason. But since we can't prevent nature from forcefully destroying those memories, it's somewhat discouraging. The thing that makes life worth living is going to be taken away from us. It's one thing to lose, but another to have no choice. Our trials and sufferings are just a stepping stone for the next person in line to go through the same cycle of birth and struggle and love and death. Somehow, we have to cope with it all.

I'm not sure what this all means. The most amazing event could have happened but it seems no more to me than a bird dropping on the sidewalk or a village that's buried in 10000 years of dust. Sometimes I feel like that's all any of this amounts to. If you want amazing, it might be under your feet, outside your vision, separated from you by centuries or millennia. I don't think this is nihilist. I think it's reality. This doesn't mean that living forms of life are no more than discarded and forgotten ruins. It doesn't mean we're no more than decayed bones. But that's what we'll likely become, with time. Every word and every thought will be like a bird dropping on a sidewalk that's long grown over by vegetation and soils, replaced by thousands of years of geologic circulation. Or maybe just a floating relic entombed and drifting in space. But more likely, it'll be fragmented bits on a broken disk drive long forgotten and crushed, maybe recycled.