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There is a secret war being waged in Space.

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posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 11:38 PM
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The following video discusses video footage filmed by NASA, regarding a UFO. Most of you have probably seen the video, but the main reason i posted this is because they mention Pine Gap.

When you watch the video, you will see what look likes a missile being fired from Earth, and just missing the UFO. Is there really a Star Wars missile defence system at Pine Gap? Or are we going to stick with NASA's "Ice Partical" theory...

Anyway here is the Video:





posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 12:18 AM
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I'm glad you posted this. I haven't seen it before, and it's really cool!


Thanks for the great post! I'm going to look up more on this!
However I don't think there is an intergalactic war going on just someone getting pissed that the UFO came too close.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 12:57 AM
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I apologize but I haven't watched that clip entirely. But I will say that I really doubt that NASA would accidentally show to the public, footage of them trying to blast a UFO with a rocket.

I doubt even more that any self respecting alien would let a NASA fired rocket come within even 10 miles of his ship.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 01:03 AM
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First, we have no proof that it was a "rocket". Secondly, i think that "beam" of light that we saw, could have been somekind of "transmission" or a warning...

It must have been something, because we have seen it on the video, the question remains though - what is it?



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 01:09 AM
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The most disqualifying fact is the speed the object would need to have moved at if at ten miles range. 100 time the acceleration to kill a man.

This dosen't prove superior alien technology, it proves gullability, and a desire to explain away the impossability. I guess the doctors grant ran out, and he was left hawking UFO reports to South American TV.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 01:34 AM
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That Australian base was type weird.

I think the footage is real an it may be a UFO-what put the ice'ing on the cake for me was when they "cut all satellite transmissions" right after.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by Cyberbian
The most disqualifying fact is the speed the object would need to have moved at if at ten miles range. 100 time the acceleration to kill a man.

This dosen't prove superior alien technology, it proves gullability, and a desire to explain away the impossability. I guess the doctors grant ran out, and he was left hawking UFO reports to South American TV.


Impossibility? For humans, now...

We are only capable of imagining things that we can create. Consider what we will be able to do if the human race lives another million years. What technology might exist for us then? If another race is a million years more advanced than us, why couldn't they travel at that speed? This also assumes that a biological entity is piloting, one that is capable of dying. 1 million year-future me probably send a robot of some sort...



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by kaffemoka

Originally posted by Cyberbian
The most disqualifying fact is the speed the object would need to have moved at if at ten miles range. 100 time the acceleration to kill a man.

This dosen't prove superior alien technology, it proves gullability, and a desire to explain away the impossability. I guess the doctors grant ran out, and he was left hawking UFO reports to South American TV.


Impossibility? For humans, now...

We are only capable of imagining things that we can create. Consider what we will be able to do if the human race lives another million years. What technology might exist for us then? If another race is a million years more advanced than us, why couldn't they travel at that speed? This also assumes that a biological entity is piloting, one that is capable of dying. 1 million year-future me probably send a robot of some sort...


It is an impossability for humans now, therefore it must be aliens from the future!

Brilliant, but not logic. It is reason turned upside down by the feet for it's skull to be dashed against a rock!



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 01:59 AM
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That's some space junk randomly floating around.

All you can see here are some white dots floating around against a dark background. A gullible mind perceives some as ET ships and Missiles, makes up a story, mixes it up with some 'footage' and enjoys the 'high'.

To me its all space junks and stuff. Not because I refuse to believe in ET, but I need something more than a grainy video with dots to accept it.

You can appreciate it only if you watch at least a score of such space videos by nasa. These 'missiles and ufos' are everywhere. It does not become an alien war just because one person says so.

Note that those cameras are low quality and are not meant for taking detailed pretty pictures. And ufos are always seen in only the crappiest of all videos. I wish it was so easy to film ufos.



[edit on 14/7/2008 by rocksolidbrain]



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 02:55 AM
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Originally posted by JDN24
 


First, we have no proof that it was a "rocket".


Then why did you call your thread: There is a secret war being waged in Space.


Edit: Hrm it seems someone took my alien comment seriously. My tongue was firmly in my cheek for the whole post, I assure you.


[edit on 14-7-2008 by unnamedninja]



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 03:52 AM
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Though the jury has always been out for me on this clip, I still find it highly compelling.

May I say though that your logic is extremely flawed!

Unless you have the inside track on alien technology and the future, your proclamations are 'hot air' and nothing more. They are simply what you think - and there is a big disparity between that and the truth - as everyones knowledge is limited whether you care to admit that or deny it. You can't change that fact!

The most you can do is add a personal opinion like the rest of us!

IRM



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by Cyberbian
The most disqualifying fact is the speed the object would need to have moved at if at ten miles range. 100 time the acceleration to kill a man.

This dosen't prove superior alien technology, it proves gullability, and a desire to explain away the impossability. I guess the doctors grant ran out, and he was left hawking UFO reports to South American TV.


Well lets see here. Anti-grav has the ability to do what? oh yeah, thats right, nullify the g-force effect on the pilot. So i guess it wouldnt matter how fast it was going. not to mention the fact that the object stopped, changed direction, accelerated right after two flashes of light and before 'something' whizzed right passed it. I think dimissing this as an ice particle seems a bit unrealistic myself.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by Cyberbian
The most disqualifying fact is the speed the object would need to have moved at if at ten miles range. 100 time the acceleration to kill a man.

This dosen't prove superior alien technology, it proves gullability, and a desire to explain away the impossability. I guess the doctors grant ran out, and he was left hawking UFO reports to South American TV.


Your logic is flawed, it does not prove gullability, it does not prove superior alien technology, it proves nothing. All we have are assumptions although I really can't comprehend how it can be space junk or ice particles when it changes direction at such a great velocity.

Whilst I won't say it's alien because there is no proof, I will happily say that I think it isn't an ice particle or junk stuck in an orbit and unless you can show me undenyable proof that this is how ice particles or junk act in space I will continue to think this as inanimate objects floating in an orbit do not change direction unless a force is applied.

The "missile" is puzzling but I can't say whether it was or wasn't, sure seems like one although it could have been anything.

As for NASA I think they say all these strange lights & objects we see in space are junk & ice particles because they don't know what they are themselves and rather than look stupid saying "we're sorry but we don't have a damn clue what they are" they would much rather make something up so as not to worry the general populace as people don't like the unexplainable especially when it's coming from outer space (I blame Hollywood and all the many Alien invasion movies where they're hell bent on wiping us out). Either that or they do know what the objects are but don't want to tell us again for worrying the general populace, it's getting much harder for them to cover these things up though now and short of stopping all feeds getting to the public (which would likely create alot more suspicion than is already around) there's not much they can do but lie to us all whilst assuming we're going to believe but seen as they hold all the cards there's not much we can do but either call them out or believe what they say!



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 06:46 AM
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This is the STS-48 UFOs incident:

we discussed it with Credulity Kills:
He worked for NASA for 9 years as a mission control specialist for the ISS (his specialty was the ISS guidance, navigation & control system) in the thread The STS-48 UFOs incident revisited - discussion with Credulity Kills

More threads about this incident:

NASA STS-48 UFO Video

NASA Space Shuttle - STS footage & Strange Objects

USA shots laser at UFO video

Aurora video?

Firing at UFO's

STS-48 Mission on video.

UFO?s Prominent in Space

Looking for Some Footage

UFO Articles on AboveTopSecret.com

Space Shuttle Discovery Mission STS-48 Captures Potential UFOs on Film


[edit on 14/7/2008 by internos]



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 07:51 AM
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Nice post Internos! Your revisit of the incident with Credulity Kills was very interesting to say the least!

IRM



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Cyberbian

Originally posted by kaffemoka

Originally posted by Cyberbian
The most disqualifying fact is the speed the object would need to have moved at if at ten miles range. 100 time the acceleration to kill a man.

This dosen't prove superior alien technology, it proves gullability, and a desire to explain away the impossability. I guess the doctors grant ran out, and he was left hawking UFO reports to South American TV.


Impossibility? For humans, now...

We are only capable of imagining things that we can create. Consider what we will be able to do if the human race lives another million years. What technology might exist for us then? If another race is a million years more advanced than us, why couldn't they travel at that speed? This also assumes that a biological entity is piloting, one that is capable of dying. 1 million year-future me probably send a robot of some sort...


It is an impossability for humans now, therefore it must be aliens from the future!

Brilliant, but not logic. It is reason turned upside down by the feet for it's skull to be dashed against a rock!


I didn't say that it MUST be anything. I just think that if there is intelligent life out there, we can't assume that they are limited to the same capabilities we have. There is a really possibility that they are much more advanced than we are. Just as there could be life forms much less advanced than we are somewhere in the universe. We just don't know, so we can't say definitively one way or the other.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:22 AM
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Didn't you know? Ice particles often zoom up from the earth into space. Happens all the time! C'mon, why are we even discussing this? Everyone knows you can see ice particles zooming from the ground into space. Hasn't anyone ever been outside in winter time?



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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For those who are wondering about the dots changing directions fast and accelerating too fast, have a look at some movie clip where a car moves against a background of very distant hills or mountains and the camera follows it.

You will notice that the mountains remain almost stationary and the car zips and zooms about wildly and tree run behind very very fast. The further and bigger the mountains greater is the effect.

Now imagine something as big as earth itself (I know its hard) thousands of miles away in background and some tiny ice crystals or pieces of junk roughly moving with the shuttle camera. A very slight movement or jitter of the camera is going to cause this illusion.

Exhaust from the correcting rockets is always firing once in a while, which causes fast moving junk going across the camera.

Ok, now use common sense and think which explanation seems more natural. Or stick to the alien war image if it amuses you. But you will miss the bigger mysteries awaiting for you, like the ones of REAL aliens.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by rocksolidbrain
Ok, now use common sense and think which explanation seems more natural. Or stick to the alien war image if it amuses you. But you will miss the bigger mysteries awaiting for you, like the ones of REAL aliens.


Your analogy is flawed because the car does not miraculously magic itself out of thin air. Sure I could possibly buy your explanation of them changing direction, however like happened in the previous thread the same question of "How does it just appear from the clouds ?" goes unanswered for the simple fact that none of you skeptics/reasonists can give a logical explanation for it



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 02:08 AM
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Some dots appear coming out of nowhere, some twinkle or strobe. These are due to rotations of the objects or due to them being in shadows of the shuttle then coming out of it. Etc.

There are many threads with better replies on this.




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