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Hard Disclosure Part III - Get it while you can.

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posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 10:16 AM
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Ummm, all going very well until you bring dear old God into the equation, this for my, puts your point of view out there in the cosmos with the great many other birds on this site.
Sorry, I think the God concept is a bigger spoof than any theory about UFO's and far more dangerous too, take a look around you, how have things been lately, in the western world.

Either God is crazy or we are crazy.




posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 10:46 AM
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MIB will be visiting you tonight.




posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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I don`t know willy, what`s more dangerous, believeing in a higher being, or thinking we just appeared here out of the clear blue sky from nothing. Our spirit had to come form somewhere or something.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 10:56 AM
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personally.. I think your wasting your intelligence on all that blabber, none of it which is true.. and you are getting yourself way to tied up into it. Move on to something pertanent in life, all that crap will get you nowhere in a hurry. Once you realize that you have been wasting your time on someone elses pipedream, you will have to kick your self to get you going again.. but it will be worth it.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:04 AM
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Zionists? Are you being real??

What exactly are you saying? That Zionists are to blame??

You said...


Where do you think the money is coming from? Often, the very people who are portrayed as evil incarnate; the rich, old families of America and Europe who have foreseen what is coming, and who are trying to warn you. And who is behind them? The mean old Zionists? Yes. The mean old Zionists. They are the inheritors of the cultural and cognitive legacy that I mentioned in the very beginning of my hypothesis


Or are you saying we are to "thank" the Zionists fro carrying the message?

I reread your HD Part one and two...I too believe that their will be a new movement that is "unknown" and will breach the present Socialist vs Capitalist construct.

I see no reasoning to bring in a "nation group" into the fray...refering to the Zionists. (whoever they might be)



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:07 AM
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MK-ULTRA..
Substances which will produce "pure" euphoria with no subsequent let-down.

Well where on our earth can we find this ?

Nice read guys, u2u me if someone knows the answer to my question.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:07 AM
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And you know it`s not true because......? What pipedream would you rather he work on then? At least he is exercising his mind and not letting it get stagnant like many who go through daily life, if that is the case. He has some very good points in his observations, so why not share them?



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:57 AM
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Hehehe. Don't feel sorry for me, rawsome.


Typically, a model will be very good at describing some features at the expense of others.

Anyone who's looking for a person who has all the answers can just keep on looking. I don't need that kind of pressure.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 12:21 PM
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do you applebiter also see this moment in cyber space as the connecting of humans with the same understanding/worldview? this connecting of course leading to the day when we all see it and hold the universe/moment in our minds. do you see it leading there?

what of the singularity? i don't think you have talked much about that yet?



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 02:15 PM
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I here where you are coming from Lennon knew after all he was the walrus



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by mc_squared
The factors holding back our cosmic evolution will basically converge upon each other and wipe themselves out in some sort of purifying apocalyptic bloodbath?


this kind of logic is arecurring theme and smacks of tautology, much like Darwinism.

he who survives is worth it, right?! btw. if he wasn't, would it even matter?

i know one thing for certain, i'm more than sceptical of such ideas and, favoring a 'no fate' approach to life (as opposed to predetermination), i reject any notion of armageddon, because it is, let's be honest, indiscriminate and therefore unjust. not to mention self-defeating.


i can see it now: we can have 'Peace on Earth' but we'll have to kill everyone first. in that case, i wish that people with such mindsets live in 'peace', if you know what i mean.


PS: i'd say paradise simply does not exist, it's a mirage and even though it's worn out phrase, bringing only destruction to bear (cleanse, select, etc. - you know all the euphmemisms, don't you?) to achieve heaven is like f****** for virginity.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 02:27 PM
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go here.. this man went through the real mk ultra program....
they hypnotised him into a christ like state and into a horse.
www.youtube.com...
They where very interested in ufo abductions in his original hypnotist session. Go through these threads and you will find the real deal.. truth... and the horror they can put you through.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

the real project would include things that would make your dead relatives roll over in there gravees and involve childhood friends also going through mk ultra...senders and recievers....
the real truth is crazier than anything posted here. And nazis?? follow the links in spain this man worked for a woman whos uncle was in project paperclip and the husband was hitlers official knifemakers grandson.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 02:49 PM
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I too have had the experience of oneness you speak of Applebiter, it is an amazing state of mind, but after the experience i came to question the reason for having it, is it mind control? are we being manipulated?....given a breaded path to follow so to speak, because you can see it as a 'hive' mind mentality much like 'The Borg' and in such a system there is a hierarchy where the one or ones at the top have freedom of choice and true vision, but the rest are just drones with no independent thought or individuality, couple this with the plans of the NWO.

Now when we think of god as fragmented through choice ie... reluctant-messenger.com...
I don't think it would really want to completely discover itself again, else why destroy itself to begin with?
Maybe we should keep the mystery and not answer all the questions and maintain an eternal game of peek a boo with the creator, maybe we should maintain its schizophrenia?

Just a thought... i do get 'em sometimes


To be One or not to be One...that is the question!

[edit on 14-7-2008 by Ah_Pook]



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
I believe they use Hollywood as the crown of thorns, and people don't realize yet.

Another example of the Hollywood confession, "Wag the Dog". They even had the president (in the movie) receiving the first sheath from a little girl, exactly like Hillary Clinton landing under "sniper fire". To the T. They had already confessed 9/11 in Independence day. The Jews teach every thing through oral or sensory perception of any value.

This all sounds crazy, but true.

[edit on 14-7-2008 by letthereaderunderstand]


Letthereaderunderstand, I thought I was the only one that believes media, movies, TV shows push and point you in whatever direction "they" want to go. "They" being whomever you want to place there. I've said this in a lot of my threads.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by pieman
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this thread is even worse than the other two threads, mind scientists
. and the old zionists are involved, there's a shock. you're being pressured so you can't give out any more information, oh gosh, is it the men in black, are they coming to get you?

wonder if there is a pattern here, multiple threads, facts with tons of spin attached, unwilling to reply to critics, no links, no documentation, no background and suggestions that "they" are trying to stop you from getting the truth out.

same crap, different day.


I'm going to respond to you this once, against my better judgment.


"
this thread is even worse than the other two threads, mind scientists
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And yet you took the time to read them. Mind scientists, yes. Psychiatrists, if you prefer. Don't take my word for it though. Look it up.

"and the old zionists are involved, there's a shock. you're being pressured so you can't give out any more information, oh gosh, is it the men in black, are they coming to get you?"

I don't think anyone is coming to get me. There are different kinds of pressures that one must deal with on a daily basis. I'm not hiding anything from you. I'm just not disclosing everything.

"wonder if there is a pattern here, multiple threads, facts with tons of spin attached, unwilling to reply to critics, no links, no documentation, no background and suggestions that "they" are trying to stop you from getting the truth out."

I dunno. Is there a pattern? You tell me. What is there to reply to? Most of the critical posts are statements rather than questions. You are entitled to your opinion. Do you really need me to bless it for you?

No one has tried to stop me from telling the truth as I see it. Free will and all that.

Now I'm going to criticize you just a little. Do you have an alternative theory? Do you ever create ideas or do you just look for opportunities to shoot other people down? Have you convinced yourself that by being destructive you are performing some kind of heroic service? Are you a hero? A protector?

What are you protecting?





posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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Mind control? This topic fascinates me to no end. It's a back door into truth as good as any other. What is culture? What about the yolk we willingly don in social situations that prevents us from being "out of line". We seek to avoid embarrassment and to garner admiration. This carrot and stick setup amounts to mind control. Like the fish in the fishbowl who see everything but the water, we are blind to the fact that we are willfully subservient to mind control.

I don't buy the borg idea, although I do see it playing out in a way that looks like what you describe. Right now. It is the structure that we know.

A friend of mind calls the crisis we're facing a "meta-narrative crisis", and it's a good term. What is happening is that all of the narratives that constitute the culturally sanctioned historical, psychological, and sociological backdrop against which we measure ourselves are falling apart. Academics and think-tankers are in a tizzy over the problem of legitimation, and all it takes is for something completely novel to emerge in our reality in order to call into question every assumption that underpins consensual reality. Aliens firing death rays into the Capitol are not the threat. The threat comes from people waking up to recognize that what has been recognized as valuable isn't.

[edit on 14-7-2008 by applebiter]



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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just wondering about what your thoughts on Scientology are? Are they part of disclosure?



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 05:09 PM
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Hm. They scare me a little bit. They are wealthy as a group and they are litigious. They inspire loyalty to the group in a way that makes them dangerous.

I believe that there are many ways to reach a spiritual crisis that can help to clear away the cobwebs. I also think that there are several traditions that have developed techniques for getting you there. What concerns me is knowing that if a group floods you with dogma and leads you to such a crisis, the wonder and amazement that is a part of such a discovery might be used to "legitimize" the narrative or the dogma, or somesuch.

Anyone who makes you pay for enlightenment, or who takes more than they give, is probably not your friend.

Having said all of that, I have heard of a Scientology offshoot called the "Freezone". I don't know if they simply use techniques to crack you open or if they also attach dogma. I just don't know.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Quazi176

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
I believe they use Hollywood as the crown of thorns, and people don't realize yet.

Another example of the Hollywood confession, "Wag the Dog". They even had the president (in the movie) receiving the first sheath from a little girl, exactly like Hillary Clinton landing under "sniper fire". To the T. They had already confessed 9/11 in Independence day. The Jews teach every thing through oral or sensory perception of any value.

This all sounds crazy, but true.

[edit on 14-7-2008 by letthereaderunderstand]


Letthereaderunderstand, I thought I was the only one that believes media, movies, TV shows push and point you in whatever direction "they" want to go. "They" being whomever you want to place there. I've said this in a lot of my threads.


It appears we have the same shwartz...No seriously though, Thank you for some affirmation...I feel like I'm nuts sometimes. I've been wanting to start compiling media clips and am going to do a little movie as soon as I get some time. One of the biggest tell alls I've ever seen is Close Encounters. They talk about a fake anthrax scare to keep people away from "Devils Mountain" which is a Volcano representation. When the ship lands they walk down a Pyramid platform, which is what a pyramid represents, a volcano. Everything is Egyptian. The Jews were drawn out (drawn out translates in Hebrew moshes) of the Egyptians. That is there true decent and blood. People don't even know that is what Nibiru means...HEBREW. The Media (MEDES & PERSIANS) tells us many things. But, because we believe it to be myth, it is. Peace



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by applebiter
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Anyone who makes you pay for enlightenment, or who takes more than they give, is probably not your friend.


And this simple fact is why this man is telling the truth...

"You know man, you just look for the people who have the most to gain..." The Dude - Big Lebowski



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