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yes but it is The Reconstuction Acts established military rule only during the reconstruction of the southern states UNTIL new governments were formed and they accepted the 14th amendment.
I really dislike bringing up credentials because they mean nothing when both sides are presenting evidence and logic for their arguments, but it gets to the point with you to where you simply dismiss everything as being wrong without evidence.
If your going to do that, I don't know what else we can rely on except credentials.
I hope you have some impressive credentials we have not seen.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by tide88
yes but it is The Reconstuction Acts established military rule only during the reconstruction of the southern states UNTIL new governments were formed and they accepted the 14th amendment.
Please point out where in the 14th, the President of the United States ended martial law.
You should also look more closely at how the new southern governments were formed. It was about as Democratic as Hitler telling the German people that they could vote for anyone they liked, so long as it was a Nazi.
Matial Law cannot exist where there is civil authoriy or at times of peace.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by tide88
Matial Law cannot exist where there is civil authoriy or at times of peace.
Despite the Proclomation you cite, civil authority was never restored. The Southern delegations would have had to be returned to Congress, BEFORE any business could be conducted. They were not. Therefore, Congress was still conducting business as a matter of Presidential decree, and not legal civil authority.
For the Presidential proclomation to be binding, Congress would have had to immediately admit the Southern delegations.
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
reply to post by jackinthebox
Just as I thought. You have no credentials.
thats not debunking thats attacking character
Your evidence has been debunked, and expert opinion disagrees with you.
experts debate this to this day, so since there are also at least 3 experts that disagree with your stance, by your own logic your arguement is 'debunked' also
But that won't stop you...no, you'll just keep posting until everyone else gives up because you are convinced if you flood the boards enough with your posts that people will forget that you've been debunked.
I suppose theyve changed the definition of debunked then...
The facts:
- Your evidence has been shown to be wrong, because Marital law was declared unconstitutional.
- At least 3 experts on this have disagreed with you.
- You've created an elaborate begging the question fallacy to make yourself believe you can never be wrong. You do this by ascribing powers to marital law which simply do not exist, making it so powerful that nothing could ever-overturn it.
I'll go on the side of the evidence.
The evidence that supports your case or his? Since both exist youll have to be more specific.
As it is always your tactic to get the last word because your convinced this somehow lets you win, you enjoy it.
[edit on 20-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
reply to post by jprophet420
AH HA! The post gang arrives, right on time. I was wondering where you guys were at. Jack went far too long without coordinated support from a post gang. Usually they arrive as soon as 1 person voices disagreement.
1) Your going to have to read the entire thread before making disparaging remarks about me. We've went full circle: presentation of evidence, refuting of evidence, opinion of experts - all of which stated jack was wrong - and so finally I asked about credentials because I was not sure where else we could go. He presented none, nothing else has any truth to it, and thus I make my conclusions.
2) Find 1 single expert that debates this - someone who actually has credentials in the subject (academic degrees, published articles in peer reviewed sources, etc.) and thinks this theory is correct. Just one. You won't find any, because 'experts' don't debate this. The experts settled it, and the conspiracy theorists keep debating it even though its been settled.
[edit on 20-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]
Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by tide88
Matial Law cannot exist where there is civil authoriy or at times of peace.
Despite the Proclomation you cite, civil authority was never restored. The Southern delegations would have had to be returned to Congress, BEFORE any business could be conducted. They were not. Therefore, Congress was still conducting business as a matter of Presidential decree, and not legal civil authority.
For the Presidential proclomation to be binding, Congress would have had to immediately admit the Southern delegations.
That way, every time he gets debunked he simply claims that it cant be true because martial law doesn't allow you to over-throw it.