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Official says Iran would destroy Israel if attacked

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posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 01:47 PM
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Most of your speculation has good grounds , but my worry is America have targets in the region that Iran would attack, if Isreal assualted them as soon as they do America will respond as they have been attacked , then the whole shooting match begins. thus Everyone else gets dragged in.

of Course its madness, but when did madness stop the lust for any type of global gain , either political, strategical, and the big one financial.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 01:54 PM
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The reality is this is all chest pumping


probably not.


wont happen - no way.p


september 10, 2001.


taking on the D8 would spell destruction for America.


the d8 consists of Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Malaysia, Nigeria, Pakistan and Turkey. Pakistan are current allies of the US - and do you really think america desires or is going to take on the rest? naaaaaaahhhhhh.


the other countries which America has pist on for the last 50 years would join in the free for all


no they wouldn't, you fruit cake.


Saudis HATE Israel

www.abovetopsecret.com...



turkey, egypt syria, etc,etc will all move towards their muslim bretheren


egypt is worried about iranian influence in the region (rightly or wrongly) and turkey would likely side with the america at best, and take a neutral position at worst. You fruit cake.


well your economy would almost totally collapse (has already)


it hasn't collapsed yet.


in short you would be at war with the world


naaaaahhhhh. just iran, her allies and al qaeda, probably.


The combined military power of only China and Russia


china and/or russia won't get involved militarily, probably. You fruity cake.


The reality is simple - this was a game of chicken


naaahhhh probs not, babe. this is real - and its goin to end in war, sadly. Babes.


and my guess seeings as you are all americans is no way.


naaaaahhhhhh I really like americans. Great bunch of people, always great company.


I think ghengis did a better job.


LOL. Nuts.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by malganis


Well here's some news for you, that's not how it is. 'Axis of Evil' is a propaganda term used to make you believe that you hate people that you don't even know. and it works, apparently. Pretty clever of a 'dumb' President to be able to control your emotions like that.

Come on, you don't seriously still believe that crap do you? Why would someone go to the trouble of flying planes into your buildings and thus having their own countries destroyed in return just because they "hate your way of life"? You know 'the terrorists' aren't a bunch of stupid kids that don't know what consequences are. People in the Middle East do have common sense just like me and you.


Those are some good points which people really should think about. The American political system is a complete joke. Even after Bush's popularity fell to all time lows because of Iraq, I cant see ANY changes in the opinions of the American people at all. They're still a bloodthirsty bunch of warmongers, buying into this terrorism malarky spun by the media, and will take revenge on anyone with slightly brown coloured skin. (no offense to any of you Americans with some sense in your heads, I know there's a lot of you on these boards) Even after seeing how Iraq was the single biggest mistake since Vietnam, everyone seems to be getting the popcorn ready and getting set for War In Iran the movie, as presented by CNN and FOX news.

Also guys, think about leadership. Why is America led by a single man? we are not cavemen anymore guys! we don't need this sort of system anymore where one "Strong" male is in charge of everybody. Leadership should be spread equally and things should be voted on. This system of "because I said so" is really too ancient for a modern society.

And don't talk to me about congress, or how Bush doesn't really have any power and it all has to be okayed by everybody first and stuff. I've seen that guy sign so many papers which flush your civil liberties down the toilet.

[edit on 13-7-2008 by unnamedninja]



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
Iran is the main pillar within The Axis of Evil. Its time will come for sure. There is NO WAY on earth that the USA, UK and Israel are going to allow the worlds MAIN STATE SPONSOR OF TERROR a nuclear weapon. It's just not going to happen, Iran will be stopped.


Whats this "Axis of Evil"?? The United States kills more people worldwide every damn day then Iran ever has or will. Israel is a little mouthy child with its big brother backing them up. I would LOVE if one day the States broke ties with Israel and promised they wouldnt interfere if another country took military action against them. Id give em 7 days before they were blown off the map.

Iran isn't a country of saints, id have to be ignorant to think that but seriously people need to stop treating Israel as if they're all about freedom.... they've been the worlds #1 terrorists for decades.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 02:48 PM
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I am not suprised once again to see the posts of ignorant and araogant Americans here on this thread and others. The facts that these individuals dont even realise that their own country is banckrupt and will collapse completely by the end of the year is amazing. The fact that the in order to fight the wars in the ME the US has had to borrow billions fron the likes of China just to continue to fight these wars.

It would appear that these brain dead patriotic Americans are quite happy with the thought that these conflicts will be the ruin of their country and its people. That they think that they can continue with these conflicts and more besides without any hurt to their already crippled economy is stupidty beyond the realm of reason or logic.

America has been the biggest mass murderer of civillians since WW2 and the fact that these morons point the finger at Iran and shout its an evil country just shows how ignorant they really are, that they are all to willing to surrender their brains to the lying media and a corrupt Goverment. Well after Martial Law has been introduced later this year perhaps in the pit of their catatonic state the first glimpse of doubt may enter their retarded mindsand all is not what they thought it was.

All Empires end and usaully when they are totally overstreched both financially and from a military point. The US is showing all the symptoms of this illness and its now just a question of time. Any attack on Iran will be the straw that will break the camels back, every one know's this but apparently no the Americans themselves. Or shoud I say those in the know have been making their plans to quit the place when the axe falls.

Iran you have been told is a push over it will be beaten in a day well I look at it this way Iraq 1 was 1991 and during that time there has been a US presence there. Iraq2 2003 and now 5 years later there is still no end in sight. So one could say that the conflict has lasted 17 years and the jobs still not finished. Iran is 3 times the size of Iraq and has a population of 70million as against Iraq's 20 million.

So again it does not take too much thought process to see whats going to happen. Iraq is bleeding America dry and any attack on Iran will be the coup de grace for America. But there is a light at the end of the tunnel and its the NAU. That will be your saviour, ony there will be no dollars, no guns, no super power status, no massive military might and no bill of rights just the North American Union.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 02:59 PM
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With all this talk of the Iranians weaponry not being worth a crap, you guys are way over exaggerating. They aren't the best, but they have some decent systems... thanks to Russia.


Their nuclear installations are all ringed with the most advanced surface to air weapons systems that Russia has ever designed. I forgot their name, its 3 letter, starts with an S, and there a 4 or 400 at the end. Anyways, these things are mobile, have cannons and missiles together. The radar is out of this world, and the intelligence estimate is that these can indeed inflict casualties on U.S. F-15 & Israeli fighter jets. The F117 Stealth might fare a little better, but the chances of losing one would be extremely high even still. I wish I had the photos to show you of Iran's rings of these around their installations. Their range is incredible too.

I'm just saying this: It won't be anything like the 1st Gulf War was versus Iraq, where we just swoop in and bomb the daylights out of them and then leave. We'll lose a fair amount of planes, and if Israel does it, they'll lose a fair amount of planes also. Regardless of who does it, U.S. Military bases all throughout Iraq would come under immediate missile attack, and these are better than SCUDs, and the range isn't far at all. The main U.S. naval base right there in the Persian Gulf area would likely EAT IT .. I mean, you people fail to properly estimate Iran's regional abiity with ballistics.

Let's not even talk about men on the ground .. oh lord ..


AS IT STANDS..

U.S. Regional ability is not as powerful as Iranian Regional ability CURRENTLY.. in the Region of Iran and its' shoreline as well as its' borders, and a few hundred miles from its' borders in any direction (Iran). If the fight was between the two, it would be a knock-down drag out and the U.S. forces would take casualties not seen since Vietnam/Korea. This is until reinforcements are sent in .. perhaps to double of men on the ground currently there. There's around 140,000? Yeah, we'd need about 300,000 good U.S. soldiers on the ground, in the air, and in the sea over there to take on the entire country of Iran in conventional warfare.

[edit on 7/13/2008 by runetang]



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
Iran is the main pillar within The Axis of Evil. Its time will come for sure. There is NO WAY on earth that the USA, UK and Israel are going to allow the worlds MAIN STATE SPONSOR OF TERROR a nuclear weapon. It's just not going to happen, Iran will be stopped.


ummm...your facts are old. iran is the only pillar in the axis of evil.

if iran is attacked, could anyone but hypocrites really honestly blame them for defending themselves?



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 03:05 PM
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they're number 16, with a bullet. israel is 26.

www.globalfirepower.com...



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 03:08 PM
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whats sad about that rating site is,

it says Japan, Brazil, and Mexico are more powerful than Iran .. lol

edit: and it says Iraq is better than Venezuela


Iran has more Gold and Oil reserves than even the USA.. isn't that something?!

[edit on 7/13/2008 by runetang]



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 04:28 PM
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posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by chips

The reality is this is all chest pumping


probably not.


wont happen - no way.p


september 10, 2001.


taking on the D8 would spell destruction for America.


the d8 consists of Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Malaysia, Nigeria, Pakistan and Turkey. Pakistan are current allies of the US - and do you really think america desires or is going to take on the rest? naaaaaaahhhhhh.


the other countries which America has pist on for the last 50 years would join in the free for all


no they wouldn't, you fruit cake.


Saudis HATE Israel

www.abovetopsecret.com...



turkey, egypt syria, etc,etc will all move towards their muslim bretheren


egypt is worried about iranian influence in the region (rightly or wrongly) and turkey would likely side with the america at best, and take a neutral position at worst. You fruit cake.


well your economy would almost totally collapse (has already)


it hasn't collapsed yet.


in short you would be at war with the world


naaaaahhhhh. just iran, her allies and al qaeda, probably.


The combined military power of only China and Russia


china and/or russia won't get involved militarily, probably. You fruity cake.


The reality is simple - this was a game of chicken


naaahhhh probs not, babe. this is real - and its goin to end in war, sadly. Babes.


and my guess seeings as you are all americans is no way.


naaaaahhhhhh I really like americans. Great bunch of people, always great company.


I think ghengis did a better job.


LOL. Nuts.










Three degrees plus a masters from the leading universities in the world specialising in this area of interest says Im not fruity - but gee, great argument, what was it again ? Fruity ?! Glad to have you join up imbecile.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 05:11 PM
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With the USA having a lead in technology even the stuff we know the USA have in the white and grey world Iran wouldn't stand a change.. if Israel or military bases ect going to be attacked by Iran .. and several states like syria and several others states helping Iran .. the USA will bring out some of the technology they have which is currently 50 years more advanced then we can even imagine. take in mind the b-2 and f117 we take for granted as to be the state of the art .. were developed and created in the 60 and 70's of the 20th century.. they are currently being mothballed and just like in the early 90's we had the 1st gulf war .. The war against Iran will bring out the successors to those planes.
we even know that in the 1st and 2th gulf war the USA was claimed to have secretly used particle beam weapons ect.
Iran wouldn't stand a chance even if they try to use nuclear weapons or chemical or biological.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 05:24 PM
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three degrees and an MA? LOL, pull the other one, gorgeous!

which of my points did you disagree with? go nuts (again) and reel off another list of reasons why you should be committed for general nuttery. Pleeeease (:

either that or explain why you think the US is about to go to war with malaysia

You fruit cake.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by MarkLuitzen
With the USA having a lead in technology even the stuff we know the USA have in the white and grey world Iran wouldn't stand a change.. if Israel or military bases ect going to be attacked by Iran .. and several states like syria and several others states helping Iran .. the USA will bring out some of the technology they have which is currently 50 years more advanced then we can even imagine. take in mind the b-2 and f117 we take for granted as to be the state of the art .. were developed and created in the 60 and 70's of the 20th century.. they are currently being mothballed and just like in the early 90's we had the 1st gulf war .. The war against Iran will bring out the successors to those planes.
we even know that in the 1st and 2th gulf war the USA was claimed to have secretly used particle beam weapons ect.
Iran wouldn't stand a chance even if they try to use nuclear weapons or chemical or biological.


The Americans are yet to use their latest plane (f22 raptor) in Iraq - apprantly its use was denied- having said that the Chinese have a similar plane - the Russians have the Sunburner missile along with what is considered to be a vastly superior High Energy weapon - but hey your American and it is probably inconceivable that anyone else could have anything more than a sling shot ?

The use of chemical and biological weapons is a profound breach of teh Geneva convention and will not be used (well white phosphorous is ok , apparently) -

Here is a wake up call for you buddy _ America is looking like pulling out of Iraq because it has failed - the precision weapons have been shown to be an almost total failure, (well good at missing and killing innocent by standers) - Afghanistan is being lost - now please be very specific when you tell me which weapons exactly are america going to pull out their hat ? Or is this the old we must have something up our sleeve ?

Are you saying America wont take any losses, that there will not be catastrophic consequences through a global shut down of the oil supply ? Or are just saying your tough?



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 05:35 PM
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Since we all know now Israel alone is going to attack Iran i see this just being airstrikes and missile launches.Iran will send off like Iraqi(scuds) did in the first gulf war and inflict all sorts of urban damage and human life.While Israel will just hit 30 nukes and say goodbye Iran.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by chips
three degrees and an MA? LOL, pull the other one, gorgeous!

which of my points did you disagree with? go nuts (again) and reel off another list of reasons why you should be committed for general nuttery. Pleeeease (:

either that or explain why you think the US is about to go to war with malaysia

You fruit cake.





The d8 have already made it abundantly clear they will support Iran - as has Russia and China - were you following the recent rounds of talks that are held to coincide with the G8 ? NO you haven't you just like to slag off anyone who is smarter than you and reads.

Did you read about Putins phone call to Mahamoud ? No you didn't.

Do you realise that Pakistan is NOT an ally but merely cooperating - the recent articles stating to the contrary of this placed Iraq and Afghanistan as allies - Pakistan is probably eh most anti Americans country out of all of them.

Please read - it helps immensely with in preventing embarrasing moments of stupidity - (oooh I sound really petty......... like you).

Heres a tip - do you really think the the Yanks invading three Islamic countries in 6 years is going to go down well ? There was a global meltdown over a few cartoons.

MY scenarios paint the likely escalation from the assault on Iran through a Clash of civilisations (do you know who wrote about that ? Huh ? You read that one ?) Didn't think so........you read a single book on this entire subject ?



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by alienstar
Since we all know now Israel alone is going to attack Iran i see this just being airstrikes and missile launches.Iran will send off like Iraqi(scuds) did in the first gulf war and inflict all sorts of urban damage and human life.While Israel will just hit 30 nukes and say goodbye Iran.




If nukes are used the immediate death toll could be as high as 2.5 million while the fallout would reach India - (estimated 10 million deaths in the the first month) the idea of using deep earth penetrating nukes on a Nuclear Reactor will not be tolerated - India.

Which part of the fact that there are 6.5 billion people in 200 countries outside the United States do you people not get ? Which part of global community is falling on deaf ears ?

You strike at Iran - Iran will hit back hard - they will be armed and supplied by Russia and China, and there will be ZERO support from the rest of the world - do this and there will be consequences beyond anything you can currently conceive - Would be the DUMBEST thing Israel ever did - I can assure you that the good folk (by this I mean the citizens) of Israel absolutely do not want this to happen and would be very fearful.

Iraq was a country decimated by 10 years of war in 1991- Iran has one of the most sophisticated air defence systems on the planet with highly trained, highly advanced military - the geography of Iran would isolate your military in Afghanistan and Iraq -





[edit on 13-7-2008 by audas]



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 05:53 PM
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hehe you're officially my favourite internutter (:

here's good tip for you, doll: you're the one embarrassing yourself with this arrant nonsense and cringe-worthy bilge. you're a bit of a plonker - an eccentric - and there's nothing wrong with that, babe. Just think about what you're saying when you claim that the US is going to 'take on' malaysia and Nigeria and the rest of the D8. Nutty fella! hehe x

pleease go nuts (again) and tell me how silly i am, and that you've read more books!



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 05:59 PM
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It is a shame that the US and Israel have so little regard for human life they will kill anyone who might someday possibly be a threat to them even when those parties have stated in public that they have no desire or inclination to war with these states.

Certainly the Iranians will do what ever they can to inflict damage on the US and Israel if attacked. Wouldn't anyone?


Iran Has No Intention of Wiping Israel off the Map

Both Bush and McCain keep repeating this misquote that is attributed to Ahmadinejad. He did not say it and he says that is not their intention.

Iran's leadership is clearly hostile to the plans of the Zionist and make it no secret that they think that Palestine was not the property of Britain and they had no right to set up the state of Israel in 1948 driving out the indigenous Palestinian people. Many Arabs and Persians are of the same opinion so it is not at all an uncommon viewpoint in the region.




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