Originally posted by FlyersFan
Pakistan is not in the 'middle east'. And in 1981 it was a radical Islamic state under Marshal Law.
By definition of "the war on terrorism" and by most westerners these days its considered part of the middle east. Sure its part of the indian
sub-continent geographically and it does hold history with india however it looks to its influences westward and its people share blood and culture
with middle easterners. One could say Sudan is not an arab country but african, yet under other situations its verymuch arab.
And spending a college break at 20 years old in a muslim country under marshal law is NOT vast foreign experience that surpasses McCains.
So the question here is "why Obama went there under marshal law".... this is the point where you and your buddies start getting all excited and
start making generalisations. "Oh he must me some terrorist if he went there at that time". I agree with you on one thing though Fan, its not vast
foreign experience but then again pakistan isnt the only country obama has been to. But we both know that this thread has nothing to do with that now
Again - Pakistan is NOT the Middle East AND Marshall Lawed Pakistan in 1981 wasn't a tourist center.
Read above, under certain definitions it is, socially, politically and culturally it can be considered middle eastern.
FACT - In 1981 he was NOT a baptised Christian.
So whats the big deal, this automatically makes him something else?
FACT - He was baptised a Christian in the early 1990s.
Yes thankyou for telling us that, he lied about being baptised around 10years later
oh stop the presses!
FACT - He is a follower of the racist and non-Christian 'black liberation theology'
No his not and you dont have the evidence to back that up. All you have flyersfan is Mr wrights speech there and Farakhan who randomly endorsed him
without Obama having any say in it. Trinity church is not a racist church and some of the whites in attendence there including some of their white
speakers should be proof enough. This "his a racist" tactic is to keep the GOP's own race issue away from the media, its classic I tell ya.
So your statement is a lie.
No its not, although I must say its a lie to call yourself a ron paul supporter yet not follow what he believes in. Hey if thats the case im a ron
paul support aswell! I dont support either! I just like bringing McCain down 90% of the time!
WRONG. You are projecting again.
No im not wrong, your many replys to these right wing propaganda threads flooding this forum should be proof enough as to where you really stand.
NO WHERE did I say that the Islamic faith is a 'race'.
Now lets see here, you think his a muslim, you have implied such numerous times and yet as I said before, the man says his not one and he certainly
isnt a practicing one. Despite these facts you and your buddies still seem to push this kind of accusation forward, so one could be forgiven for
thinking your idea of islam is one of no choice just like the race your born in is not your choice, thats where im getting at that and thats what you
fellas are certainly trying to say.
1 - You are dead wrong - Pakistan is NOT in the Middle East.
2 - You are dead wrong - 1981 Marshal Law Pakistan was not a tourist site.
Under certain circumstances and socially it is considered part of the middle east. Geographically its not, true, but in this day and age under the
definition of terrorism it is considered part of the middle east thats why I put it under that. Also most pakistanis consider themselves "aryans" or
indo-iranians which is an ethnic group that mainly originated from Iran, that certainly is a strong cultural tie. So for this period of time,
socially, politically, culturally, yes I would say its part of the middle east
3 - You are dead wrong - I did not claim Obama is a muslim.
Yes my friend, im sure you dont believe in such garbage!
4 - You are dead wrong - I did not claim Islam is a race.
Theres a difference between saying something and implying something.
5 - You are dead wrong - I am not voting for McCain and am not a neocon.
You dont have to vote for the man to support him. You can say your not a neo-con yet help push the neo-con agend and propaganda, you can argue 90%
against Obama, say you support RP but secretly support McCain. I can say I support Ron Paul yet secretly want Obama to win.
ON TOPIC - what did a non-christian, 20 year old man do for fun in Marshal Law Pakistan in 1981 for three weeks?
Yes flyersfan, for you and the other righties this should only mean one thing right
Keep up em propaganda folks, its been doing this country a
[edit on 14-7-2008 by southern_Guardian]