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What if we(the U.S. citizens) just didnt vote?

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posted on Jul, 11 2008 @ 11:44 PM
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ok my question is very simple.

If per se, no U.S. citizen voted for the upcoming election, would there be a re vote or a new set of candidates brought forth? what would happen if nobody voted for the next president? would there still be a decision made as to wich candidate won? what would happen?

sry if this has been talked about before, and sry if its in the wrong forum.




posted on Jul, 11 2008 @ 11:47 PM
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it would definetly bring some clarity to how the voting system really works.. as in the popular vote doesnt mean jack sh**....



posted on Jul, 11 2008 @ 11:50 PM
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Funny you should mention it T-bone.

As Nosterdamus puts it:



(Centurie VII, Quatrain 41)
The presidents of the U.S., a supposedly free country, have been
abusing their power to an increasingly greater extent. During a
time of social unrest even more so than the period of Viet Nam
and Watergate, the Electoral College will be evenly split over the
election of the new president. The process will stalemate, with
many people clamoring for whichever candidate they voted for,
causing enormous tension in the country. Internationally it will
be a sensitive situation.

Because of the split, and the extremely volatile and explosive
social unrest, putting either candidate in office instead of the
other could start a civil war or a revolution. After a long time of

impassioned speeches invoking patriotism and the founding
fathers, a compromise solution of holding another election will
be taken, and a candidate will be installed without disaster.


Sounds like a very possible scenerio.



posted on Jul, 11 2008 @ 11:53 PM
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It would probably go to the Senate and they'd would elect the President. My constitutional knowledge might be a little rusty so forgive me, but I believe that's what happens in an Electoral tie. If there's a tie in the Senate, then the Vice-President, being the head of the Senate, would hold the deciding vote.

I remember this because in 2000 during the Bush/Gore debacle, a lot of pundits were talking of the possibility of it coming down to a tie in the Senate with Gore, being the Vice-President at the time, holding the tie-breaker. Obviously, he would've no doubt voted for himself, thereby electing himself as President.



posted on Jul, 11 2008 @ 11:53 PM
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if obama gets elected i think it very possible to see just such a thing happen.

i have nothing aginst a black president, but many in this country do.

i do how ever have something aginst marxist liberal trash.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 12:00 AM
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It's an interesting concept to say the least. I for one am part of the whole that does not vote. While most say that "If you don't vote, you have no right to bitch"; it is just that rejection of the electoral system of government that I ignore.

I refuse to vote in someone I feel is morally and politically corrupt. I have not seen a candidate to date that has not had his hand in someone's pocket, or an oil company tie in or buy out package.

Is it so hard to understand that Iraq can have almost a 100% turnout for their elections, yet we barely make 40%? (Don't quote me on the percentages)

Our citizens speak loud and clear about the lack of interest in our electoral system and our so called "leaders". If we don't like one corrupt official in office, and don't vote for them, that is the will of the people to offer up another set of candidates, not to put it to the senate to elect one for us. Our blatant refusal speaks louder than any rigged election could ever do.

This is something that I will go out on a limb on; and say that in the last few elections, it has not been our people's will being enforced, but the will of a government who has their own agenda. On one hand, our president could really be an unwitting fool, and a pawn in a game of war and money, or just a fool at the head of this war of oil and money.

Either way, it is our decision as a democracy to say yes or no, and by voting for the lesser of two evils, aren't we still putting evil in charge?



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by DarthChrisious
It would probably go to the Senate and they'd would elect the President. My constitutional knowledge might be a little rusty so forgive me, but I believe that's what happens in an Electoral tie. If there's a tie in the Senate, then the Vice-President, being the head of the Senate, would hold the deciding vote.

I remember this because in 2000 during the Bush/Gore debacle, a lot of pundits were talking of the possibility of it coming down to a tie in the Senate with Gore, being the Vice-President at the time, holding the tie-breaker. Obviously, he would've no doubt voted for himself, thereby electing himself as President.

House of Representatives, not Senate.

Not that that would apply to no one voting... Voting is done through electors, which are technically representatives of their state government. I guess the states would have to decide how to distribute electors.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by Kingalbrect79
It's an interesting concept to say the least. I for one am part of the whole that does not vote. While most say that "If you don't vote, you have no right to bitch"; it is just that rejection of the electoral system of government that I ignore.


No i aint voting this yr..

I am not voting cause i see that everything isnt legit when showing representatives.. Ron Paul, Hunter, and a few others.. All we saw was these idiots who suck someone to get more airtime..

How tf can someone make an educated disision on something if they rely on tv to tell them how to vote for??

So in the end I am not voting cause this whole thing is a sham.. on top of that how the hell do you know your actually voting for the idiot u want in??



Makes you think dont it?

[edit on 7/12/2008 by ThichHeaded]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 12:13 AM
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So in the end I am not voting cause this whole thing is a sham.. on top of that how the hell do you know your actually voting for the idiot u want in??


Exactly.

Funny video. I can't see voting for anyone this year. Either a hardened old man who is set in his ways and want's to blow everything up, or some guy who doesn't know his head from his butt and will probably fold to the first oil bribe that he's offered? This isn't even bringing up the whole race issue that would be present either. That is another thread.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 12:18 AM
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Nope, I'm not voting either.

It's a Big time scam, the elections have become.

I have been saying to friends for years.

"We (Americans) as a whole would make a more profound statement if we came together and not voted. Rather then vote for the lesser of 2 evils."

They of course think I'm nuts.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by Kingalbrect79
If we don't like one corrupt official in office, and don't vote for them, that is the will of the people to offer up another set of candidates, not to put it to the senate to elect one for us.


That is just the problem... The whole presidential race has come down to who has/gets more money, and who can spit out the most bullsh** in 20 sec. in their little debates...or commercials...


Originally posted by Kingalbrect79
Either way, it is our decision as a democracy to say yes or no, and by voting for the lesser of two evils, aren't we still putting evil in charge?

holy crap thats great.... mind if i use that?



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 12:28 AM
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I get that alot to. it seems they all use the same facial expression when u mention somthing to. lol

it just to unbelievable for alot of people to believe. if that makes any sense. almost like they just dont want to hear it.

[edit on 12-7-2008 by tjetbone]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 12:38 AM
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it would be a great idea.... how could anyone make a no vote ever happen?



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by tjetbone

Originally posted by Kingalbrect79
Either way, it is our decision as a democracy to say yes or no, and by voting for the lesser of two evils, aren't we still putting evil in charge?

holy crap thats great.... mind if i use that?


Hey, be my guest.




posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:00 AM
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Great idea --- But you couldn't get all of ATS to see eye to eye with all the money in the world being the motivator.

Now imagine trying to coordinate rednecks in the boonies and the yuppies in NYC...


Don't hold your breath!

Cheers

[edit on 12-7-2008 by mental modulator]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:06 AM
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What's the point of voting? The voting terminals will probably be hacked anyway, unless you vote by mail. Your vote means absolutely nothing...it's just a formality. The popular doesn't count...period. It's all about the electorial college. They get to pick who they want...what you want means zero. Why bother?



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:09 AM
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When the day arrives, that "The People" and NOT the BILDERBERGS actually pick the candidate

that'll be the day when our vote is again worth something.

Right now, it's a dog n pony show, the enemy gets to pick which puppets should run

so it doesn't matter which one wins, because either one will do as they are told

then they make nice with all the fanfare, as if it was worth more than a used coffee filter, which it's not.



" What if we(the U.S. citizens) just didnt vote? "

I think there's a GENE WILDER movie hidden within that statement...[ only geezers will get that one ]

[edit on 12-7-2008 by toasted]

[edit on 12-7-2008 by toasted]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:39 PM
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Yeah it's a shame that too many Americans are still brain washed into thinking their vote still counts. You would think that the bush/gore thing would have gave them a hint.

I'll quote Justin Long from the latest die hard movie. As I tend to agree with this.



Farrel : You listen to the news?

McClane : Yeah, you have a problem with the news now?

Farrel : Yes, I have a big God damned problem with the news, Are you ready for this?
The news is completely manipulated
Everything that you hear
Every single day...
Is designed by corporate media to do one thing only
To keep you living in fear

McClane : Oh fear?

Farrel : Total fear
Fear so you will go out and spend money on things
Things you probably don't even need
Things you should already be sick of
So that their advertisers keep buying adds on their stations
And I tell one more thing
Are you ready for this?
I can do this all day man
I've got days of data at home
I'll drop a bomb on you bigger...

McClane : Hey!
Farrel : What.. what
McClane : Shut Up!

Farrel : That's good, that's good be dismissive


[edit on 12-7-2008 by john-Q]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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lol... ive known that the popular vote doesnt count.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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lol... ive known that the popular vote doesnt count.




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