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Time For Texas To Be Kicked Out: Good Riddance!

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posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by cruzion
reply to post by maria_stardust
 


No, we nailed the true intent of this thread straight off the bat! This was a troll post; pure and simple. The cause for the post, namely highlighting some stereotypical witch-mongerey of some ambiguous group, is entirely incidental to the actuall purpose of this thread, namely: get people riled up and score points!


I personally thought he brought a very valid and important point up by posting this. I not only live in texas and have lived here my whole life, but AM actually a texan and can say that I am hardly offended, but more appreciative that he was smart enough to have figured out such a great way of proving how idiotic being intolerant actually is.

What's funny is that his intent is obvious, but you choose to ignore it and then go and post about his intent being to gain points thereby helping him possibly gain points.


[edit on 12-7-2008 by justamomma]




posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 01:53 PM
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I was born and raised in Houston, and I feel very fortunate . There are 6 Million people in my city alone, so you have to be kidding yourself if you think we are all rednecks. People need to face the fact that redneck is an American thing, not a Texas thing. There are way more redneck people per capita in other states in the south. Plus there are PLENTY of things to do in Texas, I'd like to know what i can't do that isn't a snow sport. I still would like to move though ,because I'd rather be somewhere that wasn't so hot and muggy all the time. Stop hating, there are wayyyy worse states if you just open your eyes.

P.S This was an ignorant thread that was not meant to teach a lesson but to talk down about Texans. you just realized no one had your back so you changed it up on us. It's cool though, just never say Bush is from Texas again.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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Im in Texas, i live near Houston in The Woodlands. I have no idea what your talking about your speaking out of ignorance.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:01 PM
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I refuse to aknowledge Bush (Daddy or Baby) as a Texan. Ever.

A lot of the problems people have described come from corrupt politicians, not the average citizen.

In some ways I think we'd be better off as a country again, because most of the problems come from laws originating outside the state. I think we'd also have the resources and people needed to sustain independance, though it'd be a heck of a struggle getting there.

But hey, we've done that once already.


I don't think that, on the whole, the people here are arrogant, but just have pride in who they are and work hard for what they have.

Texas is a very sink-or-swim state, and the culture really emphasizes self-sufficiency, so I can see how someone from a more "blue" state might have a bit of culture shock. That doesn't mean that the people are any worse, though. What confuses me is why don't people from other states have more pride about where they come from.

Yes, we like our guns. The thing about it is we know how to use them and, for the most part, view them as tools. Compared to the rest of the US there have been very few school shootings.

Yes, Oswald shot Kennedy, but he was (putting aside the theories for a second) just ONE person. And for God's sake, JR isn't even a real person.

All that being said, we've got the best food around. Period.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:09 PM
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booooooooooooooooo how dare you every state has done thing that we americans have disaproved of but you have gone to far !!!!who do you think you are to make this asumption????I am embarrassed for you and feel total shame
you are whats making this country fall apart!!!and the worst thing is hjmmmmmmmmmmmmm i bet you dont know anyone from texas, even if you lived there i bet you are still clueless

some of the greatest americans i have ever met were from TEXAS.
how disgusting



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:17 PM
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If the OP was really intent on raising our awereness off such blithe and droll topics, there were a multitude of other, more open paths he could have walked. Instead, he decided on the one with the most reactionary points potential.


It's apparent you miss the entire point of satire. The entire thread lampoons the idiocy of intolerance. The fact that it has generated so many reactionary responses is proof of this. This is the deny ignorance zone, remember?

Some members (not necessarily anyone in this thread
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revel in wearing their ignorance on their sleeve like a merit badge. He showed how utterly stupid ignorance and intolerance can be.

If the OP wanted to troll for points he could have started another "Alien came through my bedroom window and swiped my porn collection" thread. But he didn't.

He set out to make a valid point, and he did it very well.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Buck Division
Of all the great USA states, I would like to see Texas leave our union. The most.

This state has given us nothing but loser presidents, arrogance, pomposity, racism, religious intolerance, assassinations, and – yeah – high oil prices.

Texas really needs to be its own little country, where they can cultivate their own little idiosyncratic behaviors, before the NAFTA highway gets settled into place.

It's time for Texans pack their bags and move out. They will be fine without us, and I am sure that is completely mutual.

Google Results 1 thru 10 of about 7,500,000 for why I hate Texas.

I'm sure many of my friends here at ATS will agree. Or not. I'm interested in any opinions you may have. Am I being too peevish here?

Edit: Fixed title. I didn't want any ambiguity here.


[edit on 11-7-2008 by Buck Division]


Texans are not the only ones that have gotten to be President nor is Texas the only State to produce Presidents. You must also remember that the 50 States of the Union elect the President. Blame the other 49 states for voting for someone from Texas if you need to assign blame to anyone.

Texas is NOT to BLAME for HIGH OIL PRICES !!!! If you want to blame someone for that, blame the SPECULATORS at the Commodities Markets because everytime they raise the price of a barrel of oil, the price of gasoline goes up.

Nuff Said !

PS: We are not Arrogant, Pompus people. Texas is full of friendly folks. And if we did VOID OUR TREATY with the United States, You would be paying higher prices for OIL from our state. Otherwise, we'd be the only state in the union that could sustain itself economically and politically.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:42 PM
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I am a huge fan of this website!!

Now, I have to wonder about the person who started this thread... What Texan ps$$ed you off so much that you have to lash out in such an ugly way?

Were you cheated on by a Texan? Were you hoping for a promotion only to find it has been passed over you to a Texan? Did a Texan reject you?

There are many wonderful things in Texas from the Texas Medical Center in Houston to the educational establishments to yes, the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo which is MORE than just people riding around in manure- its also an event which has offered millions in scholorships.

Being a Texan, I can only hope you will visit our fine state and see for yourself all the greatness Texas has to offer. Heck, I'd show you around and if you leave still feeling that way we can agree to disagree and I'll toast to you with my lonestar beer that there are two kinds of people "texans and those who wish they were"




posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:47 PM
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texas is full of itself.... It reminds me of the episode of king of the hill episode when hank was trying to get the texas native licence plate but couldnt cause he was born in new york. needless to say... he was heartbroken. lol



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 02:50 PM
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i think your ignorant, and that your idea is garbage

maybe its because im actually from texas and i KNOW as a FACT that your assumptions are Vague Generalizations.

Anyways you know deep inside, if Texas leaves the Union, that the USA will become weak and collapse.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:09 PM
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Oh, time for us to pack our bags and leave?

It's people like you, that give Americans a bad name. Intolerance.
We need our own country? You mean when we fought so hard to become part of the Union, we should just give up everything our ancestors worked for just to split and become our own country?

I don't think you see the implications of your statements, pal. Why should we concede? Your statements offend me. Being born and raised in Texas, I love my home. I know it is far from perfect, but that doesn't mean you should have misguidance to declare we should become our own country.

Just because Texas has had it's fair share of mistakes doesn't mean you should single it out. Every state has had it's taste of corruption and wrong-doings. Just because we have a few Governmental figures that many dislike, that shouldn't mean that they should dismiss ALL OF US.

Contrary to most people's beliefs, we are not all cowboys, not even most of us. We are not all war mongers and saber rattlers. They only make up a small portion of people, as does any state. I'm sure in that state of yours it has people looking to pick a fight. Everything that my parents have taught me was against racism and to work towards a peaceful goal in life, become successful and be the best I can be. I feel offended that you would consider all of Texas so bad that it would need to move away from the Union.

Also, just because one kid in Tyler voiced his opinion shouldn't make you hate Texas. I'm not defending him, but he has his freedom of speech. There are kids like that EVERYWHERE. He just happens to be in Texas.

Onto the Pledging to the Texas Flag. So what? Who cares if they make you Pledge. Is it going to kill you? Even so, it is just a tradition. What I've heard personally is that if you are a new resident to Texas, you don't have to pledge to the Texas flag.

If you don't like Texas that's fine, but you don't have to hate us. Hate is something we should be moving away from. Especially for when 2012 rolls around. I don't have an answer about your hatred towards Texas...

But, I do have a solution for you:
If you don't like it, THEN DON'T COME HERE. It is that simple. Then stop focusing how you hate Texas, enough to think that it would be better apart from the United States. Since you said you've been here before you probably just had a bad experience.

Texas isn't that bad, trust me.

[edit on 7/12/2008 by FadeToBlack]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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A great topic for a conspiracy forum...not.
I'm also irked that the mods would allow such charades to continue. I guess post-count must contribute towards their advertising revenue or something. I can't see any merit in threads like these.
At least 'faces in rocks' threads have some whimsical conspiracy connotation.
At least an alien stole my pr0n collection would be way more entertaining than this thread!



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by tylerc25211
texas is full of itself.... It reminds me of the episode of king of the hill episode when hank was trying to get the texas native licence plate but couldnt cause he was born in new york. needless to say... he was heartbroken. lol


wrong friend, that is about being full of ourselves.... our pride is VERY much a humble one. i love that i can walk into places and actually feel, for the most part, like everyone is my friend no matter where they are from, what color they are, how much money they make (for the most part well off ppl and not so well off ppl get along great here and in some cases become great friends), or what their belief system is.

hearing that "texas is full of itself" citing a king of the hill episode is
. there are real elements of tx in that show btw, but they are exaggerated to reflect the very thing the OP was trying to show w/ this thread..... it is playing into the rest of the country's distorted view of tx while allowing us to laugh at you all for believing it


alas, it is true that you will get a friendly chiding from a native texan should they hear you claim to be texan when really you were born in another state.

my best friend, who i have known since 5th grade, was moved down here from illinois w/in a week of her birth and even she respects and understands this. there is no test and/or rituals you get to go through to become a texan. we AREN'T america, we are just IN america.

honestly though, if you want to claim your texan, whatever
just make sure there isn't a texan around when you claim it. problem solved







[edit on 12-7-2008 by justamomma]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by cruzion
reply to post by maria_stardust
 


A great topic for a conspiracy forum...not.
I'm also irked that the mods would allow such charades to continue. I guess post-count must contribute towards their advertising revenue or something. I can't see any merit in threads like these.
At least 'faces in rocks' threads have some whimsical conspiracy connotation.
At least an alien stole my pr0n collection would be way more entertaining than this thread!


so cool... this means we won't be seeing you post in this thread anymore, right?


[edit on 12-7-2008 by justamomma]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:23 PM
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haha i dint use that as a example of them (you) being full of yourself, i was mainly saying it was kind of funny and related to the thread. I mainly stated how texas thinks its better than the other states, why does texas flag get to fly higher than any other state flag? your just another state, 1 of 50. your not special in anyway for being born in texas. sorry, just the way i feel.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by tylerc25211
reply to post by justamomma
 


haha i dint use that as a example of them (you) being full of yourself, i was mainly saying it was kind of funny and related to the thread. I mainly stated how texas thinks its better than the other states, why does texas flag get to fly higher than any other state flag? your just another state, 1 of 50. your not special in anyway for being born in texas. sorry, just the way i feel.


educate yourself as to why our flag gets to fly higher...the US wanted us to join JUST THAT BAD. Texas was independant, yet was suffering financially after the war with Mexico (yeah, we kicked the crap out of them, too). So we made a treaty. Part of that treaty says that we are a republic, not a state. Our flag flies, while in Texas, above the US flag because of this.

Moreso, we have additional "rights" that you don't see with regular states. if Texas decides to secede, it isn't called "secession". It would simply be a matter of us deciding to dissolve the treaty and strike out on our own again.

Texas IS different than the other states. We were asked to join the union, we didn't beg. and we did so under treaty, not constitutional amendment.

As well, if we choose, we can divide our state up into 5 smaller states. Not sure why we would want to do this....but we could.


justamomma....you are the coolest ever.
You make me proud of my homestate heritage.



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by tylerc25211
reply to post by justamomma
 


haha i dint use that as a example of them (you) being full of yourself, i was mainly saying it was kind of funny and related to the thread. I mainly stated how texas thinks its better than the other states, why does texas flag get to fly higher than any other state flag? your just another state, 1 of 50. your not special in anyway for being born in texas. sorry, just the way i feel.


i won't argue that i am not more "special", just more blessed


and it isn't that we THINK we have a better state, it's more like we KNOW.


but seriously, yes, texas has its "not so fine" points, but what you fail to realize is that it isn't about the "state" in and of itself that we are proud of, it is the principles upon which this state was brought about that we are proud of.

kind of like, as americans, we are (or SHOULD be) proud of the principles on which this country was based.

sure, problems happened and we have moved away over all from where we were meant to be..... but that is kind of where texans tend to part from the rest of the country (just did some "lumping" there, huh? lol).... see, for the most part we feel that it is up to us the individuals to do something about the situation that we are in instead of continuing to *snip* and complain.

the very reason why there are a bunch of txns on the txn/mxco border taking care of business for the greater good of not only this state, but this country
THAT is where our pride rests!




[edit on 12-7-2008 by justamomma]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:47 PM
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double posts are wastes, yes. just doing my part to contribute the OP's points i suppose
~sorry mods~


[edit on 12-7-2008 by justamomma]



posted on Jul, 12 2008 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS Plus there are PLENTY of things to do in Texas, I'd like to know what i can't do that isn't a snow sport.


Oh just wait till the relatively rare ice storm hits. We have snow sports aplenty -- from SUV downhill races to sidewalk slaloms! Of course, it's kinda hard on vehicles, but still... we have snow sports!

(g) Sorta.



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