Originally posted by jmdewey60
The word Faith, to me, implies believing in something, but in a way that causes action.
Maybe we should say we are active Christians. (if we need to have a slogan)
i agree, after all faith without works is dead.
faith is a powerful thing, but im glad many people dont have it. i dont think that people are as good as they say they are.
a few nights before jesus' death, he went to a fig tree to get some fruit. after he saw none, he cursed by saying noone will eat from you again.
the next day the apostles noticed it had withered. jesus then used it as an example for everyone to bare good fruit.
2 thing i got from the illustration.
1 - if we all could do that, imagine how many people would be hurt by it. how many times does someone do something to annoy you and you think to
yourself that jerk, i hope it comes back to bite him!
jesus said that those harboring hatred against their brother is committing already murder. if faith had the supernatural qualities it had with jesus,
then he would be right, you would be committing murder in a very real and literal way.
2 - the plant itself is an illustration for us and our interaction towards god. "fruit" can be several things. first there is the fruitage of the
spirit (gal), that is in respects to our conduct and personality, we are to be loving and mild mannered. the second fruit is our actions for the good
of god's kingdom.
matt 22: The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, And sent forth his servants to call them that
were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
who are these servants that call the wedding guest?
alot of people look at religion and see this rotting corpse of spiritual death. and its true, most 99% are. but that doesnt mean that god doesnt have
an organization, it just means that satan is doing a good job of hiding the true one.
think about it. think about all the illustrations jesus gave about masters and servants. is that not organized? a household is ordered with clear
communication. they are also under the same roof.
jesus said that the wheat and the weeds would grow together until the harvest (end of the world) then during the harvest, you would be able to tell
i mentioned this in another thread but ill mention it again. wheat, looks like a weed until harvest when the seeds grow at the top (wheat show their
"fruit"), before then, it looks like a simple blade of grass. thats why the master in the parable said to wait until the harvest time. it would then
be clear which is which.
so if the true religion is so obvious now, which one is it?
john 13: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all
men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
the true religion will be know by the genuine
love it has amongst themselves and for others
what else? notice jesus mentions a commandment. logically the true religion would follow jesus' commands.
matt 28: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all
nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have
commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
so we see that the true religion also preaches. alot of people get a bad taste in their mouths when they hear this. there is this belief that people
should respect other people beliefs and not try to change them.
catholicism has given this commandment a bad name with its inquisitions and crusades.
conversion should never be forced. God nor jesus ever said to force people. in fact, all examples in the bible of baptism have been by people you of
their own free will get baptised
remember every body has access to the bible. God has made sure that it is the most published book in the history of man. every year about 100 million
are sold, that doesnt include the ones that a given away (like the gideons).
God provides equal opportunity for all to read it and come to their own conclusion.
what else (since we are on the subject of the bible)?
we know jesus already foretold weeds, apostles add acts 20: For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not
sparing the flock.
how would we identify these wolves? well for one, they would not have love for the flock.
another thing is that they would mislead
there is an example the first letter to the corinthians.
15: Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the
dead rise not.
 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
these people where teaching something not true.
the true religion adheres to the bible the best it can.