How can you tell if your phone is tapped?, page 8
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reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 01:23 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by cheshire cat


I worked for a local phone company for 5 years..... here is the deal if u are to be tapped calling the phone company will do u no good. they arent allowed to tell you anything. there is a special dept that handles taps with local and federal law enforcement agencies. only these people in this dept even have access to this information. so ur average jo customer service or support rep will not even know n play the normal role with lines checks, service calls and line replacement
I cant say that ur phone is tapped or not but this is the way they do it at the local telephone division. if they replaced ur line outside then could be lines inside u would have to get the inside wire protection then they fix for free otherwise its ur responsibility....



reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 01:54 AM by dragonridr
reply to post by cheshire cat



The us government has the ability to monitor any phone used on the planet but you would never know it occurred. The us Govt has project echelon




Ex-Snoop Confirms Echelon Network

If its a direct wire tap the govt has to get a court order good for 30 days. Anything beyond that requires proof to maintain.

Truth is if your hearing clicks in your line a switch is going bad in one of there hubs prepare yourself next you will get cross talk( hearing other conversations and random phone rings with no one there). This is tough to find Any phone conersation can pass thru several hubs. Echo is caused either on you end or other phone your talking to volume is to high and the receiver picks up the voice again and you hear that weird delay to test this have the other person turn down the volume on there phone and see if it goes away. I work for a phone company these complaints are common.


reply posted on 1-11-2008 @ 08:39 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by alternateheaven



you'd need to have a wireless router setup like a WAP (wireless access point) assigned WEP or not. WPA is more secure than WEP.
All it takes is a linux lappy (OS preferably BackTrack 3 based off of slackware) which comes with a pre-compiled/installed version of airsnort, and aircrack.

Others are Kismit, or airmon. etc.


reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 10:06 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by cheshire cat



yes this happened to me wen i lived with a controlling ex who was evil. he knew everywhere i went and even the conversations id had when i was in the car, i looked in the history of his computer and found hed been loooking for security items and bugging equipment. he was a very weird character indeed!!!!! i still feel like my home is bugged everyday and people laff at me and call me paranoid.the feeling will not go away and he still takes piss and calls me names to his daughter saying im schizy.i think im quite normal.


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 04:38 AM by dave420
reply to post by SNK Ghost7



Government agencies perform tapping in the exchange, not in cabinets And they use digital equipment, not analogue, so the tappee won't know they are being tapped.


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 06:05 AM by stumason
reply to post by SNK Ghost7



NTL, now Virgin, used to be one of my employers way back in the day, so I know how well you field guys were trained...

I am ex-Nortel, best of the best

Tapping, as used by the intelligence services, does not involved anyone going there and connecting up some wiring to someones connection on a krone block in the cabinet. It is all done digitally and can be done from the network nodes.

Anyone with a pair of speakers and some wire can do that, seeing as it is just electrical impulses being sent through the wire from the customers phone to the cab.

The "clicking" that they hear is basically you not having made a solid connection and generating electrical "noise" from the sparks that are being produced. If MI5 or 6 did that, it would be incompetant and unprofessional.

So, in short, yes clicking could be indicative of some chavvy oik having a laugh and listening to you down the road, but if "THEY" wanted to listen to your conversations, there are better, undetectable ways to do it.

Clicking is (99 times out of 100) indicative of a fault which in itself is probably a loose connection making "noise".



reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 11:59 AM by RFBurns
Phone systems 101


Ok in these modern times of digital routers, digital muxes and digital transmission, phone calls are no longer carried over the old twisted pair wires. This means that it is no longer required to directly connect to, or even inductively connect to a phone conversation.

A 1 is a 1 no matter how many times it is duplicated, and a zero is a zero no matter how many times it is duplicated...thus in effect, that 1 and 0 are the same, regardless of who gets the 1 and 0 in the end.

Hearing "clicks" on your phone does not mean your being tapped. There is only a fraction of twisted pair wire used between your telephone and the mux outisde your house in the alley way. From there it is digital. Now if you see the phone company guy out there during these "clicks" and "pops" when on the phone, it could be the phone guy is fixing the mux outside your house for someone else, or perhaps enabling service for someone else.

Also, dispite the fact that the twisted pair of wires are in such a short length between the phone and the mux out in the alley, they are still suspect to EMF discharge, which in other words, produces "clicks" and "pops" on the line.


With a majority of people using cordless phones, and cell phones these days, all they have to do to listen to your phone call is to simply "tune" into the frequency you are using, thus does not produce any "clicks" or "pops".

In other words, you will NEVER know if your call is being monitored. EVER.

It is MORE likely you are hearing simple interference, perhaps from someone's engine with faulty spark plug wires, or someone using an arc welder down the street or on the next block, or perhaps some enthusiastic ham operator playing around with their CW transmitter, or someone playing around with high voltage experiments.

Food for thought.


Cheers!!!!
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