How can you tell if your phone is tapped?, page 6
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reply posted on 6-1-2008 @ 01:53 PM by Trisch
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I found this while googling, and I love this site! I have a very creepy neighbor, always watching us, wondering what we are doing, noticing everything that changes in our life. He just sits in his garage even in the snow, watching. A few months ago I got Comcast landline service, and I always hear clicks and weird noises. Like a number being pressed quickly, but only half the tone, and then the start of that "do do DO we're sorry..." but it's just the first "do". I don't know if that makes sense, but I don't know how to describe it. My friend hears it too, and all the clicking is scaring her.

Another time, my husband called me here at home, and it rang, I answered it and only heard an echo. He called back and said that was weird, some guy answered. I'm glad he didn't think it was a guy here, because it wasn't! These things happen almost everyday. I call my friend, we can't hear each other, only an echo of ourselves.

I called Comcast, and they said this is not normal and want to send a tech out. I have to call back to schedule. My friend and I always talk about our future trip to Area 51, and my recent one, and just started talking about killing the president, stating the time the bomb BOMB BOMB! will go off just to see if we heard any more clicks. I doubt we would be able to tell if the government was listening, I don't even care if they do. I just don't want my creepy neighbor listening.

I doubt it, but is there any way to tell if someone is listening on a scanner? Or anything I can do to not be heard by him? A hardwired phone is not an option right now, would have to have the house rewired for Comcast. I talk on Vtech 5.8ghz digital spread spectrum phones right now, but are there any that have been tested and can't be picked up on a scanner? Probably not.. I'm getting more and more paranoid and can't stop looking out my peephole.


reply posted on 24-1-2008 @ 01:49 AM by hubahuba
Hey everyone!

This is my first post but i've been following ATS for a some time now. I really had to give my point of view on this matter as NMT- and GSM-networks were big part of my vocational examination so i dare to say that i have some knowledge of what i'm talking about..

I've summarised here a quick cut and paste from this
webpage as i'm too lazy and my grammar sucks.. Please read the webpage for more thorough explanation.

Official methods:
In the U.S., telecommunications carriers are required by law to cooperate in the interception of communications for law enforcement purposes under the terms of Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA). Taps must be secret and undetectable.

When telephone exchanges were mechanical, a tap had to be installed by technicians, linking circuits together to route the audio signal from the call. Now that many exchanges have been converted to digital technology tapping is far simpler and can be ordered remotely by computer. Public switched telephone network and telephone services provided by cable TV companies also use digital switching technology. If the tap is implemented at a digital switch, the switching computer simply copies the digitized bits that represent the phone conversation to a second line and it is impossible to tell whether a line is being tapped. A well designed tap installed on a phone wire can be difficult to detect. The noises that some people believe to be telephone taps are simply crosstalk created by the coupling of signals from other phone lines.

Data on the calling and called number, time of call and duration, will generally be collected automatically on all calls and stored for later use by the billing department of the phone company. This data can be accessed by security services, often with fewer legal restrictions than for a tap.

Unofficial methods:

* "Recording the conversation" - the person making/receiving the call records the conversation using a coil tap ('telephone pickup coil') attached to the ear-piece, or they fit an in-line tap with a recording output. Both of these are easily available through electrical shops.

* "Direct line tap" - this is what the state used to do via the telephone exchange. But unofficial tapping, where the user's line is physically tapped near the house, is also possible. The tap can either involve a direct electrical connection to the line, or an induction coil. An induction coil is usually placed underneath the base of a telephone or on the back of a telephone handset to pick up the signal inductively. With a direct connection, there will be some drop in signal levels because of the loss of power from the line, and it may also generate noise on the line. A well designed induction tap does not drain voltage or current from the line because it isn't physically connected to the phone line. Direct taps sometimes require regular maintenance, either to change tapes or replace batteries, which may give away their presence.

* "Radio tap" - this is like a bug that fits on the telephone line. The state does not normally do this because they have access via the telephone exchange, though certain organizations exempt from the common framework of law applying to citizens may use devices like this. It can be fitted to one phone inside the house, or outside on the phone line. It may produce noise (there might even be signal feedback on the monitored line on poorly made equipment) to inadvertently alert the caller.

Many of you probably know this already but to those that don't:
It is also possible to get greater resolution of a phone's location by combining information from a number of cells surrounding the location, which cells routinely communicate and measuring the timing advance, a correction for the speed of light in the Global System for Mobile Communications GSM standard.



reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 01:44 PM by SimonSays
reply to post by hubahuba

huba you are most correct

if they gubment doesn't want you to know you are being tapped
then you will never know as they go through the phone carrier
to do so. And they don't need a warrant to do so after the
Patriot Act. There is no oversight on who gets listened to.
They do so much wiretapping, the FBI gets a bill every month
JUST for the wiretapping service. So if it's that large, then there
are a large amount of people being listened to.

think they don't listen to you ??
read it and weep

FBI gets wire tap cut off by phone company due to unpaid bill

Second source

LMAO .... I bet that was embarrassing to the bureau ....


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 03:45 PM by WhatTheory
reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder



What? Huh?
I have no idea what you just wrote because of your avatar.
It is very distracting.



reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 11:15 PM by Anonymous ATS
I'm a foreigner living in USA. I know a person of my nationality involved in interpreting conversations of "people under suspicion" . I also happen to be related to a member of a government of one of the "Big-8" Countries... I know for sure that my e-mails, phone, etc is tapped. Even parcels arrive to me opened, some letters as well. I'm not involved in politics or any illegal activities. I'm a disabled person.But I'm too afraid make jokes about illegal activities over the phone/net, etc, as members of my family had previous investigations for no reason!!! Also, about 20-25 years ago:
a friend joked about bringing hashish from Morocco, because he didn't have time to buy souvenirs for family and friends during his trip... 15 minutes later he was in prison questioned... It took huge efforts to explain that it was a silly joke. That was over 20 years ago, since then technology made huge progress! I was told recording devices are placed in every mobile phone and can record conversations even when not in use!
If you look at controversial websites, etc... Everything you type in an e-mail, on the net, etc, usually is checked! Most people should not worry though, it's simple accumulation of data done for marketing, conveniences, etc... Ideally the goal is to built a seamless web-world of info about each person (such as: health problems, bank accounts, location, etc...ALL done with the goal of making things easy for humanity!
Most people should not worry unless they are in the field of politics or illegal biz. or related to the individuals above!


reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 12:41 AM by Marcos Arroyos
I believe the world's population comes to about 6 billion nowadays. I've heard the US population totals about 350,000,000. Some of those 350,000,000 people make many calls per day. In my work and at home, I estimate that I make or receive an average of 3 calls a day. Now, I don't like talking on the phone and will avoid it if I can (I used to work in a call center, back then I received and made many more calls that I do now). So, I suppose that my average number of calls per day doesn't represent most people's calling habits. I reckon most people make many more calls than that.

But, just for argument's sake, let's assume that the 350,000,000 residents of the US make an average of about 3 calls each per day. That comes to about 1,000,000,000 (1 billion) calls made each day in the US alone. Can you imagine the NSA or CIA monitoring that number of calls? Well, I can't.

I work for a state government agency and have for 23 years. Believe me, we can't even keep up with the regular work, much less handle those kind of numbers. And I don't work for any kind of strategic agency. We handle unemployment claims. I don't believe we have much to worry about with eavesdropping by government agencies. Hell, we can't even get unemployment claims paid correctly.

I just don't see any government agency wasting it precious resources trying to crunch those kind of numbers. My agency pays out about $2,000,000,000 ($2 billion) per year in unemployment benefits, so we already crunch a lot of numbers. But, over a billion per day? No way, not the way legislators and congress members keep the money tight. Just not possible in my opinion.
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