The worst morning of my life... The police just doing their job?, page 1
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reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 06:47 AM by EyesII
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You are not alone. While not as great a story as yours, mine does show that the coppers make mistakes also.

Over the recent Holiday Weekend, on Sunday evening, 7/6/08 around 8:00 pm or so, I was traveling home thru some side streets in my neighborhood.

On the other side of the road traveling towards me was a copper with his windows open. I observed the copper speaking with a few teenagers that were walking on the street. I slowly passed the copper and the kids and continued on my way. (I didn't want to hit anyone.)

I got about 3 blocks down, when in my rearview mirror I see two coppers turn their cars around, lights came on, full speed blowing past 3 stop signs, coming in my direction. I knew they were on to me.

I came to a stop sign, and moved to my right in the hopes that they would just pass me by. Nope. They pulled up behind and in front of me, came out of their cars, with guns drawn, and approached my car.

I opened the door, and with my hands in the air, I slowly got out, asking "what's up fella's"?

One copper asked if I was throwing fireworks out my car window. I said no. Their guns were still pointed at me. I was asked to step away from the car towards the sidewalk, and one copper looked thru my windows to see what he could see/find. They did not care what I had to say, they were too concerned with my car contents.

While one copper was looking, and the other one was watching me with his gun pointed at me, we all heard the police radio say that they had a vehicle description.... a small silver foreign car was observed going in the opposite direction still tossing fireworks out the car window. They were traveling in a different car and direction than I was. (I am driving a gold/tan colored mid-size Dodge Intrepid.) The coppers hear this, and quickly put their guns away, ran back to their cars and screeched their tires while turning around in pursuit of the perpetrator. No explanation. No "I'm sorry". No words after "step away from the car."

I was stopped because they didn't have a description of the car that was tossing fireworks, and I was the only observable car at that moment. So they figured it had to be me. Deplorable!

I resent that! Guns drawn!!! Really....Why? It's too much I tell you!

I live in a middle-class residential neighborhood in Long Island, NY.

-EyesII


reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 01:12 PM by Essan
Contact the Police Complaint Commission and give them full details of what happened. Whilst the police were doing their job, you at least deserve a formal apology and small compensation for inconvenience etc

www.ipcc.gov.uk...

I guess in your case they were after someone in a car the same as yours and, as others have said, the person they were after was deemed armed and dangerous hence they had to act accordingly. They should have apologised though and ideally the officer in charge should have given you his details. Though maybe they were in rather a hurry.

I've experienced a couple of cases of 'mistaken identity' over the years - once when walking in the Scottish Highlands when a police car pull up alongside me (I was backpacking up a road at the time) because they were looking for a vagrant who matched my description - they immediately saw I was not the person they were looking for and after a brief friendly chat were on their way - and more recently when a constable came into my shop to question me about an incident that had taken place in a village pub and which a witness (presumably a customer of mine) had said the perpetrator looked like me. Again, had a brief friendly chat and the constable left certain it was not me (and I heard no more).



reply posted on 11-7-2008 @ 01:22 PM by metamagic
Originally posted by sayzaar
The police, for some reason, are consistantly pulling arms on innocent people.They did not even give an explanation in this case as to why they pulled a gun on him.Even if they were after a violet criminal (which we do not know) it is no excuse to let them get away with this. If it were me, i would go to the media first, then the police complaints commision. I have wondered if they do this kind of thing on purpose,hoping the victim will go to the media. This way they get the message that they want to give out to the people, which is, 'this is how policing is done in the uk now, get used to it, because there's nothing you can do to stop us'!. But something MUST be done to stop these arrogant thugs from harrassing and threatening the lives of innocent people.


This seems to point up a common trend by police to never explain and never apologize, a trend that I believe is alienating them from the communities they work in and eroding public support for their work.

The original incident is excusable if they honestly thought they were dealing with a dangerous individual. However I think the error they made was just leaving when they realized their mistake It would have been much better from a community relations point of view if at least one office had remained with the original poster, apologized and helped him to get over the trauma of the experience and on with his day.

This sort of "customer service" may only have take ten to fifteen minutes, but it would have done wonders to restore some of the trust that might have been damaged by their actions. Unfortunately this sort of callous treatment of the public is creating a real air of confrontation between civilians and police. I am surprised at how many people now see the role of the police as "to enforce and intimidate" rather than "to protect and serve"

Community support is essential for the police to do their jobs effectively and to make their work safer. Police departments really need to work harder to make their communities see them as "our" police rather than the way police are seen in many totalitarian states -- as agents of the state. And they have to see themselves as part of the community and not as a force separate from it.
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