why doesnt this whining ninny sue his family


Cretin

This has got to be a joke. It seems now days people file lawsuits just in the hopes of getting some big money. This guy needs to get a life.

This has GOT to be the most asinine attempt to do SOMETHING I mean ANYTHING about that confounded bronze age book they just can't STAND knowing it says they are an abomination before the lord.

I see it done here on ATS all the time too by this same group and I just don't get it. The hardest to figure out are those gays that are Atheist also.

They don't believe in God or the Bible yet have started numerous threads claiming to prove the Bibe doesn't say anything about homosexual sex. Yet the Bible is explicit in numerous passages but the moment you tell them they go off ballistic telling you of your "bigotry" when you're like "hey I didn't even know you were gay till YOU had to announce it to everyone. Same as this person.

I have seen every clever ploy every argument yet. Maybe they will enlist the services of the ACLU and sue Jesus lol.

Most frivolous lawsuit I have heard

- Con

Actually, in the older versions, its not homosexuality that is a sin, your actually supposed to love one another. What is a sin is Sodomy and Sex out of marriage.

There are many reasons why, from a historic view, that these 2 things would be classified as a sin. Sodomy because you are putting something somewhere it doesn't belong at all. The walls of the anus are actually extremely thin, because of that, if a person was to get too into the moment, and lack lube, that could theoretically rupture the anus, and cause massive bleeding, as well as infection. The result back in that day would be or could be a slow painful, death.

The reason why sex outside of marriage was considered a sin, was to protect the woman. If she was giving the milk away for free, chances are no one was going to buy the cow. Same principle applies today. Would you marry a woman with 6 kids, by 10 different fathers that gave you sex all the time, while cheating on you? Cause if you didn't save and protect your daughter, that what she would be classified as.

Thats just my opinion anyway. I think he is right to sue, I just think he got the wrong people. I can right a book on how you should always use your hand to wipe your ass, doesn't mean you have to read it, or follow it. The people he should be talking with, and sueing is his family.

Cheers

Camain

Well all i hear is people giving their power away and saying Jesus forgives you for being gay and for doing all that is a sin! Maybe what is in the Bible isnt correct.. maybe everything we think of religion has been twisted and manipuliated into a controlling of society and a mind control for all of the people who believe in this Book... but who an i to say this... who are you to believe in what you believe!!!

People are brought up to believe in faith from a small age... we all have our inner beliefs and that is fine... and deep down we all know the truth even though books are thrown at us.. we are told to behave a certain way..and then we are told Jesus loves us and he can wipe away all our sins!!!!

I think learn your own lesson and and grow up knowing what is right and wrong based on love and respect of others.. I dont believe that being gay is a sin, the compleate opposite to be honnest. as it is about LOVE and respect of love for one another.

Anyone who think that sinning in any form of murder, crime, and believe that their sins can be wipe away cus Jesus died for us all.. need to look at their actions and ask themselves if they actually believe they can ever forgive themselves for what they did.

Being Gay is no sin... being in love with a human being that loves you back, who is of the same sex, who is an adult and has the ability to look beyond gender.. beyond what the powers at be wanted to suppress in humans.. TO FEAR LOVE OF ALL... beacuse that power that ability unlocks the doors to unthinkable and unimaginable potential for the human race..

Anyone that has fear for homosexuals.. who has pity for homosexuals, who does not have love for them!!!! Take a look at yourselves very deepy and go within... dont try and find answers from the very texts that try to control and DO control some of you out there.

SO much contridiction, so much hate, so much pitty... so much Sinning...

This guy is making a point that he is a HUMAN he was treated badly all his life!!! cus he LOVES,, LOVES someone who is the same gender!! This is wrong that he has to grow up in a society where he is punished for LOVING SOMEONE WHO LOVES THEM BACK! where does this not compute in peoples heads?????? Brain washing comes to mind!!!!!
I think he is in his rights to sue! yeh everyone is out to make a buck these days right!!! hes gay but hes no different from any of the straight people out there.. the business people who no longer care for service they just want more money!!!

At least this guy wants money cus his life was effected by his own LOVE for another HUMAN!!! beacuse of what the bible has writen in it and how its been twisted and mis interprited in the church.

Blegghhhh...

enough of my rant,

good day.

Originally posted by camain

Thats just my opinion anyway. I think he is right to sue, I just think he got the wrong people. I can right a book on how you should always use your hand to wipe your ass, doesn't mean you have to read it, or follow it. The people he should be talking with, and sueing is his family.

Cheers

Camain

Id also like him to sue himself for being such a tit

this is bogus assessment, thoughts should never be automatically crimes, no matter how repugnant allegedly enlightened people find them- they should only be crimes when they specifically agitate for violence

For instance, thinking homosexuality is a sin, is not a crime

Thinking homosexuality is a sin and calling people to behead homosexuals is a crime

Tis a slippery slope down the thought crime route

[edit on 9-7-2008 by blueorder]

Originally posted by camain
Actually, in the older versions, its not homosexuality that is a sin, your actually supposed to love one another. What is a sin is Sodomy and Sex out of marriage.

There are many reasons why, from a historic view, that these 2 things would be classified as a sin. Sodomy because you are putting something somewhere it doesn't belong at all. The walls of the anus are actually extremely thin, because of that, if a person was to get too into the moment, and lack lube, that could theoretically rupture the anus, and cause massive bleeding, as well as infection. The result back in that day would be or could be a slow painful, death.

The reason why sex outside of marriage was considered a sin, was to protect the woman. If she was giving the milk away for free, chances are no one was going to buy the cow. Same principle applies today. Would you marry a woman with 6 kids, by 10 different fathers that gave you sex all the time, while cheating on you? Cause if you didn't save and protect your daughter, that what she would be classified as.

Thats just my opinion anyway

Cheers

Camain

The reason why sex outside of marriage was considered a sin, was to protect the woman

No guy,, the reason it is a sin punishable by death for committing adultry for both male and female was ,,, oh forget it ,, I have explained this so many times it is just not worth the aggravation I get from the ignorant sensitivities of the gay community thinking when I recite the Bible it is MY homophobia or my bigotry or my hatred blah blah blah when I couldn't care less what they do. The point is, it is a sin because God said it was and nto to lay with strange or un-natural flesh, not to lay with another man, man with man and not to lay with another woman, woman with woman.

A man shall leave his parents and cleave to his wife and they will be one in flesh.

- Con


[edit on 9-7-2008 by Conspiriology]

Originally posted by marg6043

Back to the basis, the word homosexual is not part of the original scripts and to use it in a manner that is offensive and possible to cause hate crimes is a valid issue for a law sue.

I disagree, it should not be the case that because something is "offensive" you should sue, for frig sake some people find homosexuality "offensive" are you suggesting they have the right to sue?!?

Your comment about "possible to cause hate crime" is to wide ranging to be employed- finding homosexuality a sin is not a crime, regardless of someone trying to tenuously associate "Hate crimes" with it. I could just as well say that because single mothers are more likely to produce criminal offspring that being a single mother is a hate crime- clearly I am not saying that because it is a ridiculous argument, as is your defence of "hate crime" in this instance

Back to the issue of the law sue again,

I have read the entire link to the case and it seems that the Christian publisher Zondervan indeed targeted the word homosexual as derogatory when they started to publish their version of the scripts back in 1982 and 87.

From the link,

Fowler says Zondervan Bibles published in 1982 and 1987 use the word homosexuals among a list of those who are "wicked" or "unrighteous" and won't inherit the kingdom of heaven..

Now this was indeed an alteration of the original text, But, the publisher did this during the 80s and later bibles do not contain such change and the added homosexual word, this will make a an issue that it was targeting a part of the population the homosexual population.

Now, Fowler claims pain and suffering for the last 20 years as his pastor used the modified bible in his congregation causing stress to him.

This is kind of too late to bring a law sue and a complain, while he can have a court case on the issue of charging words in published bible for the intention of targeting a specific group of people and cause hate crimes, he waited too long

Either way after waiting 20 years the court can take it or just dismiss it depending how good Fowler's lawyer present the case.



[edit on 9-7-2008 by marg6043]