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posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by mental modulator

So has this new generation of women been damaged or influenced is some fashion???

Or is this just manifesting now, having always been present yet dormant throughout most of history???


1) Everyone in this generation is victim to some damage or is being influenced in some way (usually both at the same time).

You've highlighted a symptom of the problem, not the actual problem itself.

2) You could say it has been triggered by our repressed childhoods.

People these days just have so much energy it's unbelievable; but it's chaotic energy, the kind that takes control and makes you "Go with the flow".

The difference between mastering your emotions, and your emotions mastering you, in otherwords.

I think these days the latter has become fairly acceptable, in the way that people are much more accepting of people who give into their emotions because "They don't know what they'd do in that situation" or "It's good to give in to our most basic needs every now and again".

There's a difference between doing that every now and again, and doing it every freakin' night like a lot of people these days do.

[edit on 9-7-2008 by Anti-Tyrant]




posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 07:53 AM
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These types of events obviously happen with young adults, but many who have children around this age don't care to be reminded of it.

When I see these comercials; it's really confusing that they're allowed on some stations.

These should only be allowed (if at all) on the same types of programing. I didn't go to college or witness these events myself and married way too young.......which probably saved me from some worse case scenariois.

When I had heard news reports of these people who create these videos getting sued for having underage girls in them; I realised more how they're exploiting them at an especially vulnerable time in their lives.

It's obviously exploitation and peer ( +beer) pressure. Alcohol makes them less likely to be inhibited and most know it. So, they blame it on alcohol and hormones, as if some ritual right of passage.


If I had a daughter who was going to go to college, it would most likely be a community college rather than those areas that allow these things to happen. Most parents probably don't tell their own children how stupid they were at that age.

[edit on 9-7-2008 by aleon1018]



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 08:24 AM
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A few nights ago, at around 9 p.m., one of these GGW commercials came on Comedy Central, followed immediately by an ad featuring and targeting children in order to encourage them "Get up and play an hour a day" .

Now, what kind of psychotic idiot is in charge of advertising at Comedy Central?

It used to be that the GGW commercials only came on very late at night, not so any more.



[edit on 9/7/2008 by kosmicjack]



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerOfAUTMN

It is simply a way to recieve attention, sadly. Somewhere along the line, those girls came to the conclusion that the only way they would be seen and noticed was to throw their self respect by the wayside



That's basically it in a nutshell. There really is no other reason or justification.
And yes it's that simple.

Parents need to teach their kids some self respect and value, the way mine did when I was growing up. What happened in the last decade or so that this was neglected to be instilled in the kids of our world?


And these women will most probably go on to have children ?! *sigh*

Women are losing their self respect and value more and more as each year rolls out. Chivalry IS dying ... and women are assassinating it!

Act like a whore and get treated one. Quite simple really. One must truly wonder what kind of women are okay with this.

Excellent thread OP, I really do wish/wonder if more people thought about this and what it means.
Quality women really are a rare breed in this day and age aren't they ?




[edit on 9-7-2008 by ImJaded]



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 08:41 AM
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I must say that I find the sentiments in your post and your avatar to be somewhat contradictory. No offense intended, I'm just saying...

[edit on 9/7/2008 by kosmicjack]



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 09:10 AM
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I don't think you can blame some of the girls in the GGW videos, as I stated earlier lots of the grls on videos have been given GHB at some point. And then are further manipulated by the men who film it. These film crews promote drug induced rape as long as they can film it. While females in america as a whole might be raised with the wrong morals, I don't think they are going around looking to get drugged and raped. Spring break is the perfect crime though, the women wake up can't remember anything and write it off as a night of hard drinking. Most don't know unless the guys are caught with the GHB while trying to get the girls(unconscience) from one hotel to the next. Springbreak is nothing but a drunk sex party in most places of the south. I would not send my kids after being a sober observer of such events.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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In my opinion this notion of perverse sexual activity is nothing new. One has only to study the history of sex and all will become more clear.

When I was a child in the 50's and early 60's sexual discussion was taboo. Our mothers told us the act of having sex was a duty for us to preform for our husbands. If mother only knew that by 1965 the sexual revolution was well on it's way she would have had a stroke.

Our sexual attitudes come in phases. There have been times when women and men were very open and at ease with sexual matters. Then other times when we were forbidden to even show much of our skin in public.

The GGW thing has been going on since time began. It's just been in the closet.

Humans are hard wired to seek out and enjoy sexual activities. It is natural. Even the lower animals have mating rituals.

The biggest motivation for the GGW movies, strip clubs and other sexual outlets in this period in history is MONEY. It's been said that the greatest fantasy of men is seeing two females preforming a sexual act. And it is a profitable business.

There are, of course, other reasons for this abundant sexual activity. One being power. Yes, women of today desire power over men. There are many men that can be and are controlled by women through sex.

The age old description of a good wife is for her to be a lady in the kitchen and a whore in the bedroom.

I am not condoning public sexual actions. I am saying that the sexual urge is very natural.

The sexual tide is turning. I work closely with young men and women. Many are choosing to not engage in premarital sex.

It will be interesting to watch the coming sexual revolution that puts the whore back in the alley or street corner and not in the college dorm.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by dizziedame
And it is a profitable business.


In a great many more ways than one.

I feel there have been implications that have gone unnoticed somewhere - there is definately a cause for all this, for those willing to seek it.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 11:37 AM
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I've long been disgusted with American indecency and obscenity laws, as well as the censorship imposed by the FCC. Why the fascination with female breasts? Because they have to be covered at all times by law. It's just stupid. Europe is much more lax about public nudity (beaches, etc), as well as the amount of skin that can be shown on public television, and overall, the rates of sex crimes are much lower than in the States.

If we weren't in such a puritanical patriarchy, it really wouldn't be as big a deal. But we are, so the laws of supply & demand apply.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 11:40 AM
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I love how the attitudes on here show the thinking that women should be given equal freedom, but not equal responsibilities.


A man gets drunk and does something stupid? "He should have known better!"

A woman gets drunk and does something stupid? "It wasn't HER fault!", "She was drugged with GHB!", "She doesn't know any better!", "Oh, she didn't have a father figure".


It's never "What a dumb, drunken slut!" You people of the older generation, and that includes me (just BARELY!
), understand this: These "women" aren't like your generation of women. These women are useless for anything but sport-sex. As such, that's what they get used for. They expect a useless dichotomy that can never be: They want equality AND chivalry. They expect to act like whores in public, and still be treated like "ladies". Not gonna happen.

Never forget that they are willing accomplices in their debasement. Anyone who thinks otherwise has never spent ANY time around women when they talk frankly. If you think MEN are competitive, you've never spent any time around women. There is a saying: "Kitty Kats Kompete". They want to have the attention of everyone in the room, if only for a brief moment. Young men have a label they apply to such women: "Attention Whore".

Young women have willingly pulled themselves out from under the protection of men. When this happens, these are the results you get. Are you surprised? Do you disagree? It doesn't matter. Women in our society didn't want true equality, they wanted the "equality" of being able to do whatever they wanted, without the responsibility of being held accountable for their choices. And our society does not hold women as accountable as men. All a woman has to do to get a slap on the wrist for murdering her husband is claim "abuse". Disbelieve me? Look up the sentences and compare men who murder their wives, with women who murder their husbands.

In conclusion, the "Girls Gone Wild" effect is what you get when you give women freedom without the accompanying responsibility. It is the direct result of feminism's "women need men like a fish needs a bicycle". Feminists rejoice! The younger generation of women believed you! They embraced it! Only when they hit their early 30s, when their good looks fade, do they realize the lie they have been fed. Oh, and what a bitter pill it is, for sure.

Men in the west have started to see how women behave when given license to "do anything a man can do". Not only will they do things a drunken sailor would be ashamed of, they will BRAG about it.

Welcome to the wonderful world you have created, feminists. Where men view women the same way they did 500 years ago. As something to be used.


You can sum up my "Girls Gone Wild" attitude thusly: "Welcome to equality! Suck it up!"

[edit on 9-7-2008 by sir_chancealot]



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by 44soulslayer
I posit two possible explanations:

Either way, I am somewhat judgemental of the women who would participate in such activities. They obviously dont have a very high estimation of their own worth.


Though I disagree that these women have lesbian inclinations, I do agree with your judgement of them. I agree with a previous poster who attributed the homosexual behavior to a desire to garner male attention.

As I type this reply the song "I Kissed a Girl (And I Liked It) is playing...how apropos!



Originally posted by Boostah
Yep you hit the nail on the head its not only GGW

Women are also competing against porn for attention if the man dosnt get what he wants at the bar there is plenty of websites out there to give him all the action hes ever dreamed of.



I totally, totally agree. Women have to compete not only with the unreality of celebrity beauty, enhanced by thousands of dollars' worth of hair and makeup and personal training, but also with the absolutely boundless sexuality of porn stars who will literally do anything to please their partner. And if a woman isn't willing, there's someone who is and increasingly that someone is not a movie but a real life girl emulating that movie.

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kosmicjack, I would give that post 10 stars if I could. I completely agree with all you've said and I think you've said it in a very astute way.

As you all can see, this is a very dear subject to me as a young woman. I went to a college where GGW was around every single Mardi Gras...I know several people who have appeared. Thankfully I wasn't one of them.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 01:18 PM
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Have to say that I agree. Women my age (20s) definitely want men to open the door for them, pick up the check, etc. but they don't allow themselves to be treated delicately when it's not fun. They want a man to buy their drinks but then get upset when he wants sex at the end of the night. Have cake, or eat; not both.

But I will sayt that I believe women have been so heavily manipulated by advertising since the sexual revolution that this generation of women has zero sense of self. So while they should know what they're doing at this age, they really don't. They think this really is the way to get a man to notice you, and it is, but just not for more than 10 seconds.

You're also right about the competitiveness among women. It never stops, not even for one second, and god it's tiring.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 02:23 PM
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I believe this is all a result of many factors combined:

*Technology (cameras, DVDs, etc)
*Our overally sexualized society (porn, Playboy, Victoria’s Secret, sexy commercials, etc)
*The general frenzy of the spring break atmosphere
*Girls wanting to be the center of attention and knowing that sex is what gets attention (“hey look at me, im on film now and will be famous”….”all the guys want me and are paying attention to me”)
*The drinking and drugs
*The first time away from mom and dad, experiencing “freedom” and wanting to break loose and be wild and crazy
*The encouragement from money hungry horny guys who are using these girls and taking advantage of their situation

Fact is. Sex sells. It is shoved down our throats. It is plastered all over TV, billboards, magazines that THIS is what guys want and this how is we (as females) should be. The sad part is, there aren’t enough people in these girl’s lives to tell them there is more to them then their bodies. Or they are used to getting what they want by flaunting. They have been brought up with a false sense of what a woman is and should be. This generation of girls (that is seen on these films) knows nothing else. I was not raised this way (im a product of the 70s/80s). I didn’t see everything so sexualized.

Yes, sex and wild parties have been around for ages. But it has NOT sold as entertainment until technology allowed it to be. And really, if people weren’t buying these DVDs, they would not be made and sold. The demand and desire is there for it; therefore it doesn’t go away.

There are many people who are held responsible for it. The girls themselves. They chose to put themselves in that situation (by going to spring break and partying/drinking). The parents letting the underage girls go to spring break. The guys taking advantage of them (buying drinks, drugging them, etc) and the GGW crew. The people buying these DVDs. Everyone is to blame for this.


*just my thoughts on the matter*

[edit on 9-7-2008 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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How many did you buy? I have 5 of the GGW videos. I was some what disapointed as they don't feel real.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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Freedom of expression, liberalism in society, alcohol, youth/student party culture. It's more acceptable to see these wild things going on these days. It's just how today's youth have fun.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 09:14 PM
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lol seriously ? That is a cartoon. If it was me dressed and posed that way, fair enough but c'mon now


No offence taken



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 09:34 PM
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When I see the advertisements for Girls Gone Wild, it looks like the girls lack one thing: intelligence.

I mean, they look like complete, drunken idiots. Will these girls ever become doctors, lawyers, engineers, or contribute anything useful to society? Possibly. But...when they're completely drunk, flashing their breasts to complete strangers on TV - I'd guess not. It looks like the best thing they can do is reproduce.

It just doesn't look good for women. It makes you think that all college girls act that way - it makes you think that there's no way these girls could study textbooks and actually answer questions clearly and coherently.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 09:54 PM
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I'm going to suggest that it's a mix of poor education (dumbing down of society), conditioning (brainwashing) through the mainstream media, prescription drugs, and the bombardment of chemicals (water flouridation, synthetic chemicals in the food supply and personal care products). Keep in mind that prescription drugs are also in the water supply.

Everyone in America carries a chemical burden and everyone's chemical burden is different and everyone is affected in a different way. Combine that with the poor education and media conditioning makes it almost impossible to prove that any one thing is causing this behavior.

I would like to add that I was on prescription antidepressants for 7 years and it had a profound negative affect on my behavior and decision-making processes. I finally got my life back on track after I got off the meds (did this successfully by changing to an all-organic diet).

So it's my opinion that all of the items I mentioned above are being used to turn our society into a mass of stupid sheep to be herded to the slaughterhouse.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 10:14 PM
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That's exactly right. A lot of people don't even read any longer...

The typical guy that watches this stuff is generally only interested in the following: girls, beer, XBox 360, clubbin', cars...If he has all of these things, he's satisfied. These guys are nothing but sheep.

I, for one, CANNOT live inside that box. I have to do something more intellectually stimulating with my life - learning how to cook, traveling, developing a career, learning about media manipulation, etc.



posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 10:25 PM
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i dont know but i'm not complaining.i'm all for having fun and being reckless as long as no one is getting hurt, as long as i dont do anything i would be ashamed of i'd do whatever the helll i want to hell with all of this political correctness.

'm not part of a herd i'm an individual and i'll do what i feel if fun and enjoy life at the most because i'd rather spend everyminute hacing fun rather than worrying if my actions might make someone feel unconfortable.

I had enough of that in High School





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