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Did Bush Really Cause Our Economic Situation or Is It Part of a Bigger Plan

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posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 11:22 PM
First off I have to point this out everyone here knows how critical I am of George W Bush and I feel this guy has done so much irrefutable damage that it will take at least 15 years to fully recover if we can ever recover at all. This leads me to my point. Ive been reading up on Herbert Hoover and the great depression and as the depression first started to rear its ugly head Hoovers approach was to really do nothing. He felt that the government shouldnt be involved in the economy. As it started to spiral out of control he started pushing businesses to go into a Fordism type stance (pay your employees more money so they will have more to spend) The big businesses really didnt go for that either. They were sitting on what little profits they were making.

The economy still continued to plummet so he finally started passing the following...
1. Raised tariffs, in accordance with his election-year promise, by signing the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act.
2. Increased subsidies to the nation's farmers with the Agricultural Marketing Act.
3. Signed the Emergency Relief and Construction Act, the nation's first Federal unemployment assistance.
4. Increased public works spending. Some of Hoover's efforts to stimulate the economy through public works are as follows:
1. Asked Congress for a $400 million increase in the Federal Building Program
2. Directed the Department of Commerce to establish a Division of Public Construction in December 1929
3. Increased subsidies for ship construction through the Federal Shipping Board
4. Urged the state governors to also increase their public works spending, though many failed to take any action.
5. Signed the Federal Home Loan Bank Act establishing the Federal Home Loan Bank system to assist citizens in obtaining financing to purchase a home.
6. Established the President's Emergency Relief Organization to coordinate local private relief efforts resulting in over 3,000 relief committees across the U.S.
7. Authorized the repatriation to Mexico of 1-2 million people living in barrios throughout California, Texas and Michigan, 60% of whom were U.S. citizens of Mexican-descent, in an effort to ease unemployment.
8. Urged bankers to form the National Credit Corporation to assist banks in financial trouble and protect depositors' money.
9. Actively encouraged businesses to maintain high wages during the Depression, in line with the philosophy, called Fordism, that high wages create prosperity. Most corporations maintained their workers' wages early in the Depression in the hope that more money into the pockets of consumers would end the economic downturn.
10. Signed the Reconstruction Finance Act. This act established the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, which made loans to the states for public works and unemployment relief. In addition, the corporation made loans to banks, railroads and agriculture credit organizations.

Now in doing all of this he was later criticized by FDR for

spending and taxing too much, increasing national debt, raising tariffs and blocking trade, as well as placing millions on the dole of the government. Roosevelt attacked Hoover for "reckless and extravagant" spending, of thinking "that we ought to center control of everything in Washington as rapidly as possible," and of leading "the greatest spending administration in peacetime in all of history." Roosevelt's running mate, John Nance Garner, accused the Republican of "leading the country down the path of socialism".

Now this blasting of Hoover is what eventually got FDR elected. FDR a democrat later went on to pass the new deal and also the executive orders which robbed everyone of their gold and on and on and on...which nade what Hoover did in his term look like a drop of pee in a bucket & was practically the nail in the coffin for our rights and self liberty. Big government & Big Bank was one step closer to total control.

The scary thing in this all is this is very eerily similar to what is going on now in our current mess which ultimately led to WW2. So this is why I ask this did Bush do everything that he has done knowingly or was he a puppet for a bigger scheme and the next president will be a dem who will finish this off with final control over all of us "in the name of the economy" just like FDR did when he had all that bogus legislation passed.

A congressman by the name of Louis Thomas McFadden seen what the bankers were doing and told of the new WW that was coming up as early as 1930 and it ultimately lead to his death. I have been REAL critical of Bush but now I see its not only Bush it truly is the bankers and the dems are just as involved in this hence this is why you dont see bush getting impeached. They tried to impeach Hoover and it was voted down hard just like today. There are WAY to many similarities to then and now it is scary. If history does repeat itself we are not even halfway through this and you can count on whatever wealth is left in this country will be sucked dry by the bloodhound bankers ie the Federal Reserve that runs our country. Woodrow Wilson a Dem put in the FED and then came Hoover who inherited the fed then came FDR a dem who finished it off so to speak.

I have said 1000 times on this site that the government is not dems and repubs....they are all the same there really is no difference....they use their 2 points of views to still come to the same conclusion and that is banking rule of our nation and really the world. As I read more and more into this I have almost proved this. This Thomas Louis McFadden was a genius. He saw the FED for what it was and like the Ron Paul of today tried to point it out to everyone. He even tried impeaching the FED board and eventually wanted to get rid of it. He ended up dead. McFadden also acknowledged the bankruptcy of our country. Here is a good site
to check up on this.

So in final no matter WHO gets elected just like we were asked to give our civil liberties up in the name of war our final economic liberties will be asked to be handed over to the government (the big banking puppet) and 99% of America will gladly do it just like during the war.

Feel free to add on to my research or tell me where I am wrong. It isnt in the greatest format because I am 3/4 asleep but please read this because if this is truly correct this is the ultimate of all disinformation.

[edit on 9-7-2008 by mybigunit]

posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 12:31 AM
I just wanted to ring in here with a quick answer, to hook this thread in my subs. I'm too sleepy right now to get a proper grasp on the in-depth info you have provided.

My hunch is though, in a nutshell, that Bush is just the frontman for plans that have been in the works for a long time. I think the collapse of the Dollar and the US economy is deliberate, so that they can roll out the Amero, march us into war again, and generally consolidate the power of the NWO by sweeping away the last vestiges of the US Constitution.

posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 02:07 AM
Seeing as an imbecile would of done a BETTER job than Bush,I'd say its planned.

posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 02:35 AM
Sometimes George W. Bush does seem to be far too stupid to be responsible, but I have decided it is a cunning act through which he seeks to deny that he is responsible.

I know it often looks like he can barely wipe his nose after snorting, but he is as much a cog in the wheel of the great evil that is underway as David Rockefeller, Queen Beatrix, and the Rothschilds.

posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 02:41 AM
I don't disagree that Bush is to blame for some things. However, seems to me that Congress is to blame for a whole lot more. They are the ones who are passing the bills. Bush merely signs on to them making them laws. And if he vetoes Congress can override the veto with a 2/3 vote. So why so much emphasis on how Bush destroyed everything for America?

posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 09:48 AM
What up mybu?
The executive branch is responsible for the "weak dollar policy" that they implemented in order to try to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US. What the frig????? I can't believe that they thought it would work. All they REALLY care about is how much money they can make for themselves and their cronies before they get out of office. (unless they implement Martial Law before the election, which I think is a distinct possiblilty)

I really think they want to bankrupt the US government in order to stop Social Security, public schools, medicare, and any other social programs you can think of. These neoCONS (and I emphasise CONS) want our tax money to only go to THEIR pet programs (Military Industial Complex, big oil, etc...).

But the people are starting to wake up. I don't think we'll stand for it much longer.

posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 09:56 AM
Well the take over humble beginnings has been in the making for over a century, but it had its ups and downs throughout many presidential appointees.

One of the biggest set back was under the Nixon era.

I can only tell that under the Bush administration is has become apparent that he has pushed the last steps and has been successfully at it.

After all Bush is probably the first corporate appointee that in his first term the presidency was given to him.

posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 10:28 AM
I guess here is what I am saying. Im saying that if you look at how the power grabs of the past went down it started with one puppet and then it played out to where the people who were dogging on the puppet IE FDR ragging on Hoover were the ones who took the most rights away and more freedoms and gave it to the banks and government. This is my point. If you apply it to now you see Bush who is a moron and has drug us into wars we shouldnt be in and and economy that is ugly and the dems are ragging on him. My fear is they come in and do the same thing as FDR and do it in the name of "protecting the people from the evil Bush caused economy"

I guess what I am saying is I think they are all doing this in tandem. One hand washes the other to get the final agenda or New World Order as some calls it. The real proof there is no difference between dems and repubs they are all the same. That is what I am saying. So should we blame just Bush who does all this or should we blame even more the congress that allows him to do all this in fact recently even help him out.

posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 11:54 AM
reply to post by mybigunit

I think we're all to blame for letting this happen on our watch. The politicians aren't going to do anything unless it's in their own best intrest to do it. I'm sure they all get their suitcases full of money from their special intrests. You're right, they're (the dems & reps) different sides of the same coin. They get their briefcases full of money, and We the People get taxation without representation.

posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 11:57 AM

Originally posted by pjsconcrete
reply to post by mybigunit

I think we're all to blame for letting this happen on our watch. The politicians aren't going to do anything unless it's in their own best intrest to do it. I'm sure they all get their suitcases full of money from their special intrests. You're right, they're (the dems & reps) different sides of the same coin. They get their briefcases full of money, and We the People get taxation without representation.

Yup and in conjunction with the MSM and entertainment industry you have to say to yourself...hmmm. The fact is the dems will have the executive and legislative branches owned after this election and get ready people. Your civil liberties and last remaining rights are going to be yanked. It wouldnt make a difference if its McCain or Obama we are screwed and all in the name of protected us from the terrorists & bad economy.

posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 11:33 PM
To say the collapse of the dollar was deliberate is to vastly underestimate the negligence, and incompetence of the Baby Boomer generation and the last 20-30 years of Congress.

The money supply has grown way way way too fast since rather bad banking laws were passed under the Carter administration.

When the money supply grows too fast your "supposed" to have inflation.

However we at the same time were in a massive trade deficit, and our favorite pimp of cheap goods (China) tied their currency to while we should have been getting warnings from inflationary prices we did not, because so much of our species was flowing over seas, and always exchanged at the same rate, that at home we didn't realize how large the money supply had become.

Fast forward....suddenly all our trade partners realize how over valued the dollar is. Suddenly even many Americans understand how vast the money supply has become in ratio to our population compared to 30 years ago....suddenly people want to liquidate those dollars, and buy something that will retain value, like land, infrastructure or long term commodities........

If China were to unload it's dollars tomorrow we WOULD experience hyper inflation on the level of 1930's Germany. If there is any conspiracy here it is that the powers that be realize we had better start devaluing our currency on purpose and fast on a slower decline that we can adjust to, otherwise the fall will be large and the impact devastating.

I doubt the true value of a dollar is 25 cents......

That's the economics answer....maybe not as fun as hidden NWO's but to me three times as scary and unfolding before my eyes.

[edit on 17/7/2008 by ForkandSpoon]

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