Obama's Iraq War "flip flop." Oh really?, page 1
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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 08:40 PM by jamie83
reply to post by evanmontegarde


Maybe Obama needs to update his website:



And didn't Obama introduce legislation that required U.S. troops to be removed from Iraq by March 2009? I'm not 100% sure, but I think I remember this.



reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 09:47 PM by jam321
reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin


I posted this in another thread and was never answered. Probably got overlooked with everyone that was debating with you.

I must say you do stand up for what you believe. That has to be admired. I have a legit question for you and would like you to answer it if you can. This is not an attack and once I locate a person who is pro McCain, I or you can ask him or her the same question. I ask that you do not try to attack me because this is not an attempt to go after you. Personally, I am undecided but am willing to entertain what both sides have to offer.

If Obama's plans are so wonderful and capable of solving America's problem, then why did he wait till he was running for President to reveal them?


reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 11:11 PM by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by jam321


i cannot speak for obama, i can only give you a reason *I* would do it:

being POTUS is the top job in all of politics. Is sought after by all who play the game.
to be POTUS is to have very thick skin, and endure grueling debates, like the ones were' goign through now with obama and mccain

to win these times, you have to have a few tricks up your sleeve



also

What can a president do that a senator can't?
A lot.

In fact, if you go back and review some of Obama's voting history, he has supported bills that support the very things he campaigns for

so i think your question is only about 1/2 accurate in the sense that i think (and forgive me if im wrong) you are asserting that Obama has never tried to do anything for anyone up until this point

If that is the case, then i respectfully submit that you are wrong



reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 11:35 PM by jam321
reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin


No. I am not saying that he never supported things he campaigned for. You answered the question so I give you kudos for that. I still think that I would have more respect for the candidates if they had rally their party in the Senate to pass these plans they have. It really could have helped a lot of people in the last few years. It may be a poker game to them but for some us it is a serious dilemma.

Anyway the same question goes to any McCain supporters out there.

One more thing, I feel like a senator has more power than the president. This is where the laws are introduced and passed and most presidents never get most of their agenda, But that is a story for another day. Thanks for answering.


reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 02:11 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by evanmontegarde


Do pledged Obama delegates have the obligation to switch votes at the convention if they feel that he no longer represents the sentiments of those that elected him?

The DNC rules not only allow it, they encourage it:

www.pledgednotbound.com...
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