Self Defence - advice wanted in regards to knife armed attackers, page 5


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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 01:19 PM by Illahee
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Where were the UK citizens when this went on?

The UK has gone to poop.


reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 01:25 PM by Jinni
Originally posted by Illahee
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Where were the UK citizens when this went on?

The UK has gone to poop.


After millions of people marched for stopping the war in Iraq came to nothing people in UK knew they have no say or right to determine what goes on in their country. People are suffering from withdrawal symptoms, no more willpower etc because they know they can't do anything.

So now we have petrol prices at £1.30, crazy laws, loss of human rights, persecution, recession looming, financial turmoil and nobody has the heart to do ANYTHING ANYMORE!





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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 01:28 PM by ipsedixit
If you are a sincere and dedicated martial artist you eventually evolve to a point where you realize that the strongest muscle in your body is your brain.

The founder of aikido, Morihei Ueshiba, said words to the effect that the purpose of martial arts was to avoid hurting anyone. Thoughts like that come from a martial artist who is transcending the physical aspect of martial arts and moving into the mental martial arts. A great mental martial artist never has to lift a finger and knows when his enemies are coming for him the moment the thought enters their minds.

These sorts of thoughts and skills come after a lifetime of focus on martial arts issues, from your bullied childhood to your confident maturity. But what can a beginner do now to jump start the process.

Number one, toss all your movie heroes and those phony movie situations into the garbage. Number two, always be polite and professional, no matter how outrageous the other person might be. Number three, never cop an "attitude". Be the beginner. Be the dumb guy. Let the bad guy be the teacher. Number four, never take a person's dignity away from them. Number five, never corner an animal. Always leave them an escape route. Number six, be meek and receptive on the inside but confident and relaxed on the outside.

These are distillations of many years of experience. If you cultivate these mental attitudes they will carry you a long way. If you combine them with a decent martial arts program, anyone who tangles with you will think they bumped their head on the Queen Mary.


reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 04:06 PM by cams
The thing about violent situations is that everyone reacts differently so unless you have been in quite a few incidents it is almost impossible to know how you’ll react. Will you freeze, run, scream, fight, cry, shake, pee yourself, go nuts?

I’ve been in many situations before but never a knife incident (Sorry, I lie: when a teenager, I was confronted by a ‘street-kid’ with a knife who was angry at me for approaching him about stealing an item from a friend of mine. In perhaps my stupidity, the way I reacted was to out-psyche the guy by getting into some sort of martial arts stance and circling the guy like I was some sort of crack commando in the special forces who would easily tear him a new one. He soon backed down. I’m not recommending you do this but it was how I reacted naturally and it did indeed work perhaps simply because I had belief in myself and never doubted I would lose. The ‘attacker’ certainly believed it.).

There are different techniques about how to deal with a knife attack specifically, but there are so many variations about how a knife is used (slash, lunge, over, under, stab etc) it is nearly pointless going through any here.
-If you are being attacked try to protect your vital organs and throat though even if it means you will be cut/stabbed/slashed etc in a non vital area (eg arms crossed over at wrists to avoid lunge attack).
- Avoid the knife by keeping a good distance (as opposed to say a baseball bat where you want to get in close)
- use whatever weapon you can find deter/strike the attacker with.
- Force the attacker drop the knife (usually through a defensive/attacking maneuver)
- attack sensitive areas (eyes, throat, groin, knees), head or break offending limb/wrist using a practiced technique.
Otherwise:
- run
- alert authorities/passers by..
- out-psyche them!

As suggested carrying around some very hot pepper powder (such as cayenne) may be a good idea. There are two reasons for this. It could be used in self defense by temporarily blinding someone and messing around with their other senses.
The second reason is that cayenne pepper apparently has the ability to stop/slow bleeding quite quickly so in case you were cut/stabbed, it could be used on the wound before applying pressure. I’ve never tried it but from what I have read recently, it does work. Apparently it is also good for the circulation and for heart attack, not to mention the bowels!


If you are that worried, I would enroll in a self defense course that deals with weapons (such as jujitsu) and practice, practice, practice.

I’d still take you though…


reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 08:31 AM by Ismail
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I know plenty of ways to disarm someone. Yes it can be done. But any intelligent instructor would tell you that those are last chance techniques. If you are going to get shot or stabbed, you pull them. If you can get out of it by running or handing over your wallet, you do. If you have been in this kind of situation for real, pulled your technique and didn't get cut, sure you got skill, but also a fair amount of luck.
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