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Stun Bracelet for ALL Airline Passengers?

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posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:20 PM
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Thats is surely a huge infringement of human rights.
I sure hope that this stupidity in the US Dont come over here...

But seriously i think a better idea would to have a plain clothed military/security company guy(will act as a passenger) with a small gun and cuffs on every flight would be better. im sure that the passengers wouldnt mind haveing to pay an extra $5 per flight for this peace of mind.

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posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by monkeybus
But seriously i think a better idea would to have a plain clothed military/security company guy(will act as a passenger) with a small gun and cuffs on every flight would be better.



That's already been done.

They're called Air Marshals

Air Marshal - Wikipedia

Federal Air Marshals

Federal Air Marshal (FAM) Program



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:33 PM
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OK,cool. But they should be on every flight, everywhere, that or give the pilots a gun.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:41 PM
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So many things wrong here..

What about pregnant women?
What about elderly?
What about people with heart problems?
What about children?

I am sure a shock to a pregnant lady that immobilizes her for several minutes is quite safe to the unborn child. Surely electrical currant knows where to stop so it doesn't hurt the child. And as for the older population, just look at tasers, I could see a LOT of people having heart attacks and such after being shocked. Is this product safe for children? I mean, surely the misbehaving child deserves to be shocked unconscious.

This is just crazy. I agree that the terrorists are loving what they have done to our country. This is exactly what they want to happen, for us to constantly live in fear so much that we change every little detail about our lives until we cannot even recognize our old life.

I can already see immense lawsuits due to this technology... Hopefully they are not stupid enough to implement it.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:46 PM
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Why not take the proven approach to peace and arm everybody? Wouldn't that do the same thing for security and empower the free citizens of this nation instead of enslave them?

That would also help to regrow a stronger sense of community here instead of further isolation...



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:53 PM
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Gatordone I could not disagree more.



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posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 06:01 PM
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First of all is not room for if's or but's, lets see this for what it is, another attempt to brand us the American citizens and human beings as nothing more than cattle to the ruling elite in this nation.

We are not animals and we are not slaves at the senior government officials employees wimps to play we.

This is a very invasive and dangerous proposition and everybody should keep an eye on what this dangerous people wants to do to us and we should fight back with what we have now at our disposal public outrage.

I got a nice place for Mr. senior HLS official to wrap the bracelet on.

I think Mr. senior HLS official is still stuck in the times when slavery and bondage was part of a regrettable American history.

I said lets get Mr. Senior HLS official to the town square with his entire family and put the darn devices on them and have them zapped by the people to see how it feels .

Another shame to our so call officials in Washington, he probably have some darn stocks with the will be manufactures of these devices.This Mr. Senior HLS needs to be send to Giztmo.




posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 03:54 AM
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Would not surprise me at all...
I constantly fly all over the world and see the amount of abuse, and inhumane treatment that many passengers are being submitted to. Frying from JFK to London I even saw a passenger, that was a little bit drunk, being brutally handled by the flight attendants and having a "welcoming party" of police waiting to take him into custody upon arrival. And all this because, from what I could figure out, he had raised his voice and protested about something...

And if you happen to be nervous, or tend to be a bit phobic or panicky then you are in for the worst experience of your life...

The stupidity of this is that while passengers are constantly being harassed, the cargo that the plane carries is hardly checked (by law only 10% of the cargo is screened). Go figure...



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 05:16 AM
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I honestly can not imagine the majority of people going against this if it was put into place. Sure people might grumble a little bit, but then they'll just do what they're told and put it on just to board the plane.

This happened when they started checking a lot harder at the security lines at the airports. Now people just go earlier to make the flight and maybe show a little agitation.

Some agency wants to know what everyone is doing all the time and the majority of people roll over and take it.

It happens when people think, "I'm not doing anything wrong so what does it matter?"

I know there will be people out there that already bought tickets, they get to the airport and check the luggage, and then get told they have to wear this bracelet. Most people will say okay and be done with it. Others will ask what for and get a watered down explanation and then go with it. And precious few people will demand their money back and find another way to travel.

Then promptly get arrested for "disturbing the peace" or some BS charge because the airline refused to refund the money and someone got upset.


Slightly off topic, but still might hold a tiny bit of relevance... I recently found out that (at least in Utah) if you have a driver license, that alone authorizes any police officer to search your car if you have been pulled over. No matter what. It's not something they tell you when you go to apply for a license, just hidden in state law.

So imagine what else they would hide in lawyer-ese about anything else "for your safety."



At least this is the feeling I get when I'm out and at places to observe this behavior... Sad really.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 07:00 AM
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pretty much agree with everything you have said in your post
most people will just go along with it and do nothing more than grumble a bit
i would add that if the technology is available it will be used
and it won't just b used on airplanes - it will be used everywhere - for safety sake, and the average Joe will think its a good thing.
I thought the idea of chip implants was bad enough, but adding the extra capability of ZAPPING the person is just too sweet, I'm sure, for the PTB
to ignore,
and as has already been said, the now ever so frightened American citizenry is ripe for this abuse.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by Keyhole
...What is wrong with these people, are these people power or control freaks or just sadists? ...

You mistakenly assume they have to be one or the other. They are usually both.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 09:25 AM
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LOL...I made a thread about exactly this waaay before this one yet this one makes it and mine doesn't. Keep up the good works mods..



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 09:45 AM
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what if the braclet malfunctions? could it kill you?



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 10:13 AM
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I fear the US goverment more than I fear any terrorist. If I ran the show, I would mandate all citizens carry a side arm, and tell them that it's each citizens responsibility to make sure the US is safe.

Spread the power evenly throughout the citizens, instead of awarding some organization power over everyone. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Once you have absolute power, you are a god, and everyone else is consumable item subjects, to do whatever you bid.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 11:08 AM
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I would rather drive than to have to wear such a thing.
You would see the airlines out of business in less than a week.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 11:36 AM
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I can't see this happening. This will kill off all but business air travel, which will in turn completely destroy the airline industry. Nobody is going to want to fly anywhere on a personal basis if they have to wear a shock bracelet.

The only way this could be enforced is if every mode of travel, including travelling by car by yourself, was enforced with a shock bracelet making it a moot point. This wouldn't happen either.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 11:49 AM
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This thread was started "posted on 7/7/2008 @ 02:51 PM".

Yours was started "posted on 7/7/2008 @ 10:57 PM".

At least that's the times I see that each thread was submitted.

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Now, about this bracelet the government may want to put on every airline passenger

Here are a few quotes from Bush after 9/11:

"This new enemy seeks to destroy our freedom and impose its views."

Is it freedom when you are forced to wear a bracelet that somebody can immobolize you with? Who exactly is destroying our freedoms!

"We will always value freedom, yet we will not allow those who plot against our country to abuse our freedoms and our protections."

It seems like our own government is the one abusing our freedoms if they allow this shocking bracelet idea to go forward.

"One way to defeat terrorism is to show the world the true values of America through the gathering momentum of a million acts of responsibility and decency and service."

What American value does it show the world by having civillians wearing immobilizing bracelets? Is it an act of decency to require your citizens to wear a immobilizing/shocking bracelet? Just in case?

"We will not give in to exaggerated fears or passing rumors. We will rely on good judgment and good old common sense."

Well, in my book, even thinking about forcing airline passengers to wear these shocking bracelets shows the governments "exaggerated fears", and I really don't think that this idea shows "good judgment and good old common sense.

Seems like the US government is the one who is de-humanizing Americans now more than the terrorists!

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posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 11:53 AM
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The truly bad part is we are paying our heard earned money for this. We are funding our own slavery. I think lots of people will stop flying all together if this goes threw. think how badly that will hurt the economy.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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I won't believe a word of this until you find a REAL source. A cult newspaper, The Moonie Times is on par with the Enquirer in my book. If you can't find a second and legitimate source for this then I would call the whole story bogus. If there is ANY validity to this story then there are dozens of more reputable alternative and even MSM sources that would do a story on it.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by sayzaar
I think this is a great idea!! but instead of the state putting them on us, we should have them fitted PERMANENTLY to anyone entering office. If they muck up or step out of place they get zapped by the entire population


What an outstanding suggestion. The best use I see is placing those wrist bands on the current candidates during one of the debates with the moderator signaling its time for the audience to vote. And the last candidate standing or who survived wins.

Perhaps some clever person will figure this belongs in the hands of the public and not in the hands of the government.

[edit on 8-7-2008 by Skydancer]



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