Originally posted by Leveller
Title: Would You Die for Your God?
This question was recently posed on a BBC television programme which was discussing the world's attitude to religion and god.
I don't have the exact figures, but there were many more Muslims who stated that they would die for their religion than Christians. I
was suprised at the poll results as, if I remember rightly, roughly 40% of Christians said they would die for their faith against 60% of
It brings me to an interesting point though. Didn't Jesus die for his god? Was he really that different to those who answered the affirmative
in the recent poll?
I suppose that some Christians would state that Jesus did not die for God but rather for mankind's sins but even if this were the case there would
have to be the belief or knowledge of a God in the first place.
Personally I would die for my God. It's pretty easy for me to say so, purely because I'm not religious, have made my mind up about God, know I'm in
safe hands and will never be called upon by Him to do so - so for me it's really not a question at all. But what of the Muslims,Christians and other
faiths? How do they justify dying for a God when their religions clearly tell them that killing yourself and possibly killing others goes against the
It seems to me that most people would be dying for their religion and not for their God.
Can we clear up a few of these terms that are being used and exchanged for each other as if they are all equal? I'm speaking of 'God, Religion,
Faith'. Even you show how they aren't the same thing, nor do they automatically include the union of another to be complete. They may include each
other, but not always. Without clarification, there are really 3 questions here:
1.) Would you Die for God?
2.) Would you Die for a Religion or it's Dogma?
3.) Would you Die for Your Faith?
Starting with 3
(Faith), this may or may not have a damn thing to do with any 'Traditional' Religious Dogma, God or Higher Deity. Someone's
Faith, could very well just be an extremely psychotic devotion to some fabricated fantasy from their own damaged mental state. (Can you also hear all
the Atheists yelling, "That is what all religions are." You know what I really mean with that comment about 'Psychotic Faith' so don't twist my
words into something else. I'm talking about a serious, clinical mental delusion here.)
Personally, someone willing to Die for their Faith in something can be something to admire, only if it doesn't also include, 'Killing' for their
Faith as well. Killing Others and Personal Sacrifice for one's own Faith should be separated in all possible ways before one can see what the action
was really about.
Religion or Dogma, pretty close to the arguement posed above in 'Starting with 3'. Except this time, the psychotic Fantasy is
usually written down and followed by others as well. No two followers ever following exactly the same thing in every detail, but close enough so they
can usually agree as to who their common enemy is. Once again, this may or may not have a damn thing to do with God, Divine Law, Good Living, etc.
, all I have to say to that is, Those who Believe in God, "You're going to Die. God only knows when, but you will Die eventually."
So like it or not, we all Die for God. Most have No Idea 'Why' either, so whether or not God decides to tell you before it happens, we'll just
have to wait I guess.
Those who Don't believe in God, all I have to say is, "Why are you still reading all this if you don't even believe in God in the first place?
Obviously by now you should have realized that this topic has nothing to do with you. Unless of course you are one of those 'Self Proclaimed'
Non-Believers who just comment in these topics to start a bunch of sh*t to try and hide the fact that you really aren't sure whether to believe or
not. Attacking others with 'Anti-Faith' and asking for Proof in order to find the answer by cheating off others, while using the false front of One
who Really Knows the Truth. That old disguise has been used for far too long, so let's make this the last time, shall we?"
EDIT: I double Quoted the original Question....Sorry...
[Edited on 9-3-2004 by mOjOm]