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Are the British God's chosen people?

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posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed

Originally posted by Cantwara


Whatever mongrel conglomerate of races and peoples the 'British' arose from, the achievments, good and bad have been remarkable considering it's a little island on the edge of Europe.



Id say thats the only thing that kept youall from becoming even more like the cheese eating surrender monkeys. Had it not been for the channell, youd be frogs just due to interbreeding.


You're ignorance really knows no bounds does it Shazam?Let's see now ,hmm ,yes Vietnam war.US-fully tooled up fighting force with acouple of atrocities thrown in for good measure.Vietnamese-bamboo sticks,bicycles and a good tunnel system and you still lost and the Hollywood mad about ninety films about it hilarious.As I've previously stated we're world class warriors in land ,sea,air fought more battles than the US could shake a stick at.You have a choice go and read some history books and get educated or carrying on playing with your Malibu Stacy dolls and do some US battle re-enactments.Don't come on here posting your rubbish and disrespecting decent men and women who have died partially to prop up your governments agenda and also to stop the mad mullahs chucking a few more bombs your way .Although judging by your comments on the recently released Gitmo footage it's because of people like yourself that the US is a prime target for the Jihad ists.




posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed

Originally posted by Cantwara


Whatever mongrel conglomerate of races and peoples the 'British' arose from, the achievments, good and bad have been remarkable considering it's a little island on the edge of Europe.



Id say thats the only thing that kept youall from becoming even more like the cheese eating surrender monkeys. Had it not been for the channell, youd be frogs just due to interbreeding.


your a troll. Nothing more, just a slimey troll and you bring NOTHING to this thread or this board.

troll



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by expatwhite

Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed

Originally posted by Cantwara


Whatever mongrel conglomerate of races and peoples the 'British' arose from, the achievments, good and bad have been remarkable considering it's a little island on the edge of Europe.



Id say thats the only thing that kept youall from becoming even more like the cheese eating surrender monkeys. Had it not been for the channell, youd be frogs just due to interbreeding.


your a troll. Nothing more, just a slimey troll and you bring NOTHING to this thread or this board.

troll



Look at Shazam's previous posts and member profile.Explains it all.Personally I think he's channelling Ted Nugent.He hates feminists/commies and loves guns.Need I say more.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 07:36 AM
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Sharon the Bowlegged is coming on, throwing out every kind of cliched bigotry and provocation because he wants to feel important and being noticed by British people is the pinnacle of achievment in his little world.

How's my little stalker poos today, Sharon??



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 08:14 AM
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Yeah but, no but, why I'm proud to be a chav
Vicky Pollard of Little Britain is a chav, the latest object of middle-class derision. But the sneering reveals more about the detractors than the chavs
Julie Burchill
WHEN I was first asked by Sky One to make a documentary about the chav phenomenon, it’s fair to say that I had reservations. Even to use the word seemed, to me, something like spitting in the face of 99 per cent of the people I’ve ever loved — rednecks all, with just a few rogue toffs and bourgie slacker-boys thrown in.
But it wasn’t just a moral objection — vanity played a part too. For I’ve noticed that calling people “chavs” says far, far more about the caller than it does the called. And, amusingly, it pinpoints the exact area which the name-caller is most anxious about. Thus individuals who aren’t getting any good lovin’ will hiss on ceaselessly about how slaggy chavs are; those who know that secretly their job is one long duck, dive’n’skive (journalists are particularly culpable here) will bang on about how idle chavs are; and those who stayed in long and expensive educations yet are earning less before tax per annum than Wayne Rooney spends on valet parking each year will be rather cross about how much money he pulls in with no help from anyone but his rather clever feet. In the end, as a loved-up, honestly idle, uneducated, filthy rich guttersnipe, I just couldn’t resist the call of the old neighbourhood. “I embrace the common — I explore and sit at the feet of the familiar, the low,” said the great thinker Emerson. So I did, too — and thoroughly enjoyed it.

I soon learnt that sometimes, hilariously, it is not just individuals who feel chav envy but whole institutions — the Daily Mail, for instance, whose whole raison d’être would appear to be that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE IS HAVING FUN AND IT MUST BE STOPPED NOW! — naturally fears, loathes and envies chavs with a passion. The Mail gripes about their sex drive, their money and their laziness (go figure) but is particularly obsessed with what it sees as the sky-high chav birthrate, mostly to unwed teenage mothers. However, as in so many things, the Mail seems somewhat confused on this issue, as when it’s not worrying about young working-class women having too many children, it’s worrying about young middle-class women having too few. That children are children, and will grow up to be adults who will help to pay for our pensions regardless of their social origins, seems lost on the ever-anxious Mail — and their concern with the “correct” social origin of said children would seem to be sailing dangerously close to their fascist sympathies of the past. Though it’s probably phobia and not fascism that inspires such censoriousness; be it chav girls getting pregnant or posh girls staying childless, they are obviously having TOO MUCH FUN doing so.

Whenever I stand up for chavs — on the basis that the white indigenous English working-class is now the one group you can insult without feeling the breath of the Commission for Racial Equality on your neck, which makes it pretty damn cowardly apart from being what I call “social racism” — there will always be some joker who will bend over backwards to reassure me that not ALL the working class are wasters. No, there are the good proles who slave away ruining their health for a pittance — and then there are the bad proles; the chavs, who work no harder than they have to, and like to spend what money they have on nice things for themselves and their children — in fact, who are human and, to their detractors at least, unashamed of that. And here’s the rub — and the accompanying hypocrisy, which will make sense to anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together. The very things that chavs stand accused of — aspiration, love of material goods, lack of communal values — are the very things that have not just been fetishised by institutions such as the main political parties and the Daily Mail for the past 30 years, but forced on the British people as surely as the Industrial Revolution was. The De-Industrial Revolution deprived the working class of skills, trades and neighbourhood socialism, seen most dramatically in the defeat of the miners and the closing of the pits. Twenty years on, it’s a bit late for voices of the Establishment to pine for hand-stitched banners, brass bands and scrubbed doorsteps; that’s all gone.

No, we’ve got to work with what we’ve got now — and sticky-beaked sad sacks trying to differentiate between good proles and bad are only showing their rank ignorance of recent history as well as their totally transparent desire to feel superior to people who have been dealt a pretty poor hand, both educationally and economically speaking, yet still manage to wring a fair amount of fun from life. During the making of the documentary, my brilliant friend Michael Collins, author of The Likes of Us: A Biography of the White Working Class, recalls how in the 19th century middle-class do-gooders berated the costermongers for spending “too much” money on nice clothes for their children. Nothing changes, except that now the clothes come from Von Dutch. The working class still spend shamelessly — as they rightly should, for which class has worked harder for its money? Perhaps it is their “betters” who should be more shame-faced in their weird, status-needy spending, be it on five types of extortionately priced organic lettuce in a poxy salad, a king’s ransom on a fortnight’s living death in a mausoleum in Tuscany or blowing £200 a throw on having some vicious bint pelt you with hot stones, as many middle-class, media-mad women are apt to do.

Whatever, whenever I hear some well-connected, expensively educated nobody differentiating between the good/bad and the deserving/undeserving working-class, it only has the effect of making me cleave to the bad, undeserving half, perverse little soul that I am — please, Lord Snooty, don’t do me no favours! When Dominic Mohan — of The Sun, no less! — says in my documentary that I’m defending chavs because I am a chav, I felt a deep glow of pride. My people! — right, wrong or falling down drunk with vomit down their velour. And at the end of the day, a people so lacking in hypocrisy — perhaps the most ludicrous, lowest minor vice of all — and so rich in honesty that anyone even half-alive has to like them. “If we weren’t doing this, we’d be on the checkout at Tesco,” says the chav princess supreme, Cheryl Tweedy, of the magnificent Girls Aloud (whose song No Good Advice features on the documentary’s soundtrack). Somehow, I just can’t imagine Jade Jagger or Nigella Lawson admitting the same about the benefits of being born with a famous name. Let alone Dannii Minogue, who recently claimed during a diss-off with Girls Aloud: “At least I’m not a chav!” She should be so lucky!

Anyway, to paraphrase Obi-Wan Kenobi, “Who is the chav, the chav, or the one who disses him?” For sure, websites such as chavscum.co.uk demonstrate exactly the mean-mindedness and talent to abuse that chav-haters accuse chavs of — and the saddos involved refuse to reveal their faces. Perhaps we are a nation of chavs — and that suits me fine, as the alternative would be being a nation of pretentious ponces; naming no names, Monsieur et Madame! Look at our “betters”, if you will; the Queen has a gilded coach — it doesn’t get more ostentatious. The third in line to the throne has a bottle-blonde girlfriend called “Chelsy”; the ninth in line has a pierced, even blonder daughter called Zara. Even Burberry, it turns out, was founded in Basingstoke rather than Belgravia. And its “chief financial officer”, who recently had the nerve to attempt to distance her overpriced, underselling product from the replicas still selling like hot cakes by saying “Chavs are yesterday’s news”, is actually called Stacey. STACEY! No doubt she has sisters called Tracey and Lacey and a brother called Casey — and what fun we’d all have down the Bowlplex, legless on Bacardi Breezers! Pot, kettle, bling, anybody?

Chavs is on Sky One, Monday, 9pm

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

The words chav, chavo and chavvy have been used by labourers in the southeast of England since the 19th century. There is considerable evidence that chav derives from the Romany word for boy, chavo. John Sampson’s The Dialect of the Gypsies of Wales lists it under cavo, “a son” or “boy”, and relates it to the Sanskrit equivalent, “sava”

CHAV ANTHEMS

No Good Advice Girls Aloud
Firestarter The Prodigy
I Believe In a Thing Called Love The Darkness
Dry Your Eyes The Streets
Bye Bye Boy Jennifer Ellison
Guns Don’t Kill People, Rappers Do Goldie Lookin’ Chain
Dream Dizzee Rascal
La La Ashlee Simpson
I Don’t Want You Back Eamon
Bad Ass Strippa Jentina
Also any Christmas-themed song

CHAV CHIC

Burberry
Kappa
Moschino
Versace jeans
adidas
Lacoste
Hackett
Le Coq Sportif

CHAV IDOLS

Even among chavs there are three distinct classes...

Upper Chav: The Beckhams — former Spice Girl Victoria and her footballer husband David are Chav royalty. They observed proceedings from his’n’hers purple thrones on a raised dais at their wedding, sold the pictures to OK! magazine and named their children Brooklyn and Romeo

Middle Chav: Daniella Westbrook — the former EastEnders star and huge fan of Burberry-themed outfits; the fashion house claims that Ms Westbrook has almost single-handedly ruined its reputation

Lower Chav: Michael Carroll — the 21-year-old persistent offender and former dustman won £9.7 million on the lottery and upset his neighbours in rural Norfolk when he set fire to a 40-ft mobile home on bonfire night. Makes regular appearances in The Sun. Wayne Rooney and Coleen McLoughlin: the 19-year-old Manchester United footballer and his fiancée wear Von Dutch tracksuits with diamante thongs (her) and bright white adidas sportswear (him)

SARA LAWRENCE



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 08:16 AM
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I thought I'd throw chavs into the mix.Any thought Brits?I like a good bit of Julie.Where do you stand on chavs or are you chavtastic and proud?Are you wearing Burberry right now? I f so post.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by candyfloss
I thought I'd throw chavs into the mix.Any thought Brits?I like a good bit of Julie.Where do you stand on chavs or are you chavtastic and proud?Are you wearing Burberry right now? I f so post.


Ain't this all a bit off topic Candyfloss?

Gazbom.

[edit on 18-7-2008 by gazbom56]



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by candyfloss

Originally posted by expatwhite

Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed

Originally posted by Cantwara


Whatever mongrel conglomerate of races and peoples the 'British' arose from, the achievments, good and bad have been remarkable considering it's a little island on the edge of Europe.



Id say thats the only thing that kept youall from becoming even more like the cheese eating surrender monkeys. Had it not been for the channell, youd be frogs just due to interbreeding.


your a troll. Nothing more, just a slimey troll and you bring NOTHING to this thread or this board.

troll



Look at Shazam's previous posts and member profile.Explains it all.Personally I think he's channelling Ted Nugent.He hates feminists/commies and loves guns.Need I say more.


Where did the scary monster go?

Gazbom.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:50 AM
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Hoisted on his own petard.Should we send out a search party or maybe he's being held hostage by Camille Paglia for some re-education.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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Throwing chavs and Julie Burchill into the mix will only cause botulism.

I am white and working class and don't want to be associated with chavs in any way shape or form.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:40 AM
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Fair enough if that's how people feel.I just thought it was kind of relevant as someone from some organisation was calling for the word'chav' to be banned.How this would work I have no idea.But it's cultural identity issue.To me chavs are as much aspart of England/Britain as toffs.But I can guarantee that chavs would agree with the title of this thread by Burberry they would.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 05:47 PM
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no time for them sorry ... init x

oops one liner but ho hum nuff said .........




posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 11:41 AM
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I understand Complete and utter Git.What about Toffs do people hate them too?Just out of interest I'm white and working class too.i wonder if all the Pro -Brit posters on this thread are?



posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 04:26 PM
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posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 04:32 PM
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I love all forms of British ecentricity, thats what makes us who we are. Though I do have a loathing for the British that sport their football shirts and sing football songs whilst drunk whilst on holiday abroad.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 03:50 AM
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Oh comeon,it's traditional as fox-hunting and Morris dancing.You must have gone to Magaluff then for your hols,lol



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by candyfloss
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Oh comeon,it's traditional as fox-hunting and Morris dancing.You must have gone to Magaluff then for your hols,lol


No, sorry, never been to Magaluf. I prefer to stay away from Brits abroad if I can, i prefer to go 'native' or as we used to say in the RN, wear 'pirate rig'.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 04:41 AM
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Sounds intruiging .Wearing pirate rig means holidaying at home?



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 05:43 AM
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I always understood CHAV stood for Council Housed And Violent!!

Anyway I keep coming back to this thread being a Brit..

Batman the Brit baiter !!lol he has to keep dissapearing to have a think I presume..bless him!!



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 06:05 AM
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Well,we'll just keep ourselves occupied till we verbally spar again.Chav is Romany and I'm from a council house(How dare you...lol)



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