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Report: The End of the Internet Is Near


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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 09:13 AM by sir_chancealot


And sadly, ignorance goes on.

The problem with the address space as it is now, is that WAY back in the day, certain for-profit companies were given incredibly huge IP address blocks. These should be reserved for ISPs.

Almost every company will use one or at most two IP addresses. The only time you need more than that is if you host your own web servers, etc.

The "problem" of the "shortage of IP addresses" was solved back in 98. It's called NAT.

(I.e., you could take this article and it would be at home in any geek magazine in 1998).



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 11:38 AM by me262


We don't even need ipv6, just use a router with 1 ip address in front and you can have a whole class c of private ip's behind it.



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 12:38 PM by illuminist


i think they just want to take the internet away from us... and they need an excuse!



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 01:51 PM by BlueOx


The internet is never going to run out. There is always a program or update that they will always be able to install and use to expand this so called dying internet. It the same thing as the Y2K scare. Everybody was getting there underwear in knots making sure there computers were Y2K compliant and guess what happened. NOTHING!!!!!! The ball dropped on new years day and life went on. I'll tell you what happened though, people (i'm not saying everybody) went out and spent tons of money on frivolous upgrades for there computers that weren't even needed. The interenet is not going to run out!!



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 01:56 PM by Unit541


I can't believe this was published. IPv6 has been around for a couple of years now, and dispelled any possibility that the internet would "run out of addresses". This is like saying we're running out of space... in space.



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 02:01 PM by super70


It's true, it can be found here...

End of the internet



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 02:21 PM by johnsky


lol. I remember that page.


Anyhow, no, we're not going to have a problem when we exceed the number of IP addresses available.
ISPs are merely going to create sub addresses. Look at how most businesses operate. A single IP address to a hub, and from that hub internal IP addresses are allocated to the PC's linking out.

At the moment, many PC's have direct addresses on the internet. It's not really necessary. Servers benefit from this as it makes the DNS entries simple... but PC's don't need direct addresses on the net, they can be routed a few times over allowing networks within networks.

The great thing about the star topology is that it can be expanded indefinitely.

These people saying the internet will end because we're out of IP addresses are VERY near sighted and seem to think in very simplistic terms.


Think of it like street numbers. Cities that have run out of numbers on a street will simply start breaking those numbers down.
123 Some Street quickly breaks down to 123-1, 123-2, 123-3 etc.
The hub is like the entrance to that building group.

With the introduction of fiber optic hubs, bottlenecking isn't going to be a problem either.



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 02:46 PM by titorite


.com .net .org .tv .edu .gov .cc and that is the short list... on the other side you have www and then www2 and then www3 ..

No the internet is not gonna die anytime soon... We are not running out of web addresses.

Fox news is simply a government agency charged with discrediting the internet as it is a threat to their control regime.



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 03:38 PM by Anonymous ATS


the internet will end soon, everything to do with electronics and all the modern conveniences known to man will cease to work. there will be too much problem in the world and internet will be the last thing you have to worry about when that time comes.



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 07:25 PM by ravenflt


Caution, you do not want IPv6!!!!

It also includes the MAC address of your NIC, plus includes your geographical location in the public address. You can forget being anonymous online with IPv6! If you so much as fart while online with IPv6, the MIBs will be at your door testing the local area for biohazard contaminations.



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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 09:34 PM by LookingIn


Bigger picture folks! With IPv6, there are enough IPs for the chip in everybody's neck to have its own unique address.



[edit on 7-7-2008 by LookingIn]



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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 01:30 AM by Comatose


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Do you realise how easy it is to get the MAC address of a IPv4 address?

I see so much crap being said in this thread where people have no idea what they're talking about.



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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 03:54 AM by Rytak


IPv6

Already implemented on windows vista.

There's nothing to worry bout folks, the combined fury of Microsft and Unix/Linux are here to save the internet. (Well, mostly Microsoft for the average user, but Unix/Linux will save all the good servers at least.)



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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 04:00 AM by NorthWolfe CND


reply to post by Bunch



The Internet has died a long time ago...
Having witnessed the birth of the net, and before that the BBS, I am finding it harder and harder to navigate...I can no longer find pages I used to visit and the traditional search engines only direct you to their "sponsored sites"...

Anyone know of a good independent, as in not controlled by the government, search engine???



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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 10:38 AM by knowledgefound


Originally posted by dunwichwitch
I find this very hard to stomach.

How could nobody have forseen this coming and made compensations for it with the gradual switch to high bandwidth IPs?

This IS a scam, and a trap.


I didn't have to read the article to know that.

once i saw this was a fox news article i laughed and then didn't bother to finish reading.

An obvious scam to make you buy an 'upgrade' or something of that nature.



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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 11:05 AM by bigfatfurrytexan


My two cents, for what it is worth:

When the tech bubble burst, there were young investors who had lots of assets that they need to invest in. They moved to the housing market. Many of them were able to get "in good" with bankers (due to their large amounts of cash), and they ruined our lending system in the process of pillaging it.

Now, they have moved on to commodities. This is what is driving staple food items and gas through the roof (among other things). But they have figured out where the "strings" are, and how to pull them. So they are doing it.

We are currently seeing the instability caused by this over valued commodities market (judging by the 4 dollar drop yesterday). The bubble is going to burst.

So now they are moving back into tech.



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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 11:15 AM by princeofpeace


Just making way for the GRID-thats all. The GRID will make the interent look antiquated.



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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 11:58 AM by danx


Originally posted by me262
We don't even need ipv6, just use a router with 1 ip address in front and you can have a whole class c of private ip's behind it.

That solves nothing.

IPv4 allows for (roughly) 4.2 billion unique addresses (32 bit addresses). You realize there's 6.6 billion people on Earth right? And there's companies (and even a private citizens) who have allocated huge amounts of IP addresses and continue to need more (Google, Microsoft, etc), so eventually IPv4 addresses will run out.

As people pointed out, it can be easily fixed by adopting IPv6 (128 bit addresses). IPv6 would allow for 3.4e38 addresses (3.4 with 38 zeros following it) of total addresses.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 04:36 PM by ipsedixit


What's really killing the internet as far as I'm concerned is the whole "reality" movement in rock bands, TV shows, etc. You go to look up hemarroids and you get four pages of stuff on the Hemarroids latest album, their fan sites and companies trying to sell you hemarroids Tee shirts.

It's an exaggeration, but you get my drift. I still love the internet though but I wish it was divided somehow into "academic" and "crapmercial". It would be easier to navigate.



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