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reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 02:17 PM by labyrinth101

reply to post by Ethereal Gargoyle

It could all be explained by memory problems, I suppose, but the experience just feels different. When I am reminded of something I have forgotten, it is more of an 'oh, of course' feeling. When a timeline mismatch occurs it gives me a really weird, 'what the bleep?' feeling. There is no way to confirm or deny the experience, it can only be subjective. Coming online and finding that so many other people have these odd experiences adds to the perception that there is something else happening.

My latest unexplained timeline change is very perplexing to me. I visited the local natural history museum and they had a fossil nautilus but also they had two mother of pearl nautilus shells. I was gobsmacked because I have always known that these sea creatures are extinct and I remember learning about them at school when we did fossils. I came home and googled and there are photos of living nautilus which I swear I have never seen before. Now, it could be that I have been oblivious to the existence of these creatures for the past 40 years, but I have to wonder.

reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 02:44 PM by Ethereal Gargoyle

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I hear you. Man, I've had wierd experiences myself!
It's not that I don't believe such things can happen. It's just that I don't see many more posters in this thread really giving it a thought - I mean *really* really, you know? - like you did. And that just leads nowhere....

reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 02:55 PM by labyrinth101

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I agree, some level of scepticism is useful, but my hope is that if enough people pool their weird experiences we will begin to spot patterns. I find this thread fascinating and thought-provoking. I hope you will share some of your own experiences, it all adds grist to the mill.

reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 07:08 PM by Aeons

Originally posted by Ethereal Gargoyle
First of all, I would like to say I mean no disrespect; and please take this statement seriously.
But honestly, people, are you willing to at least consider - I mean, seriously and honestly consider - that your memory may be at fault?
I see very little of such mental reservations here. Why is that? Denying a possibility won't make it less true. And wishing for something to be "out of this world" won't make it so either.

Absolutely. It is entirely possible. There would have to be something significantly more wrong with my biological wiring though then to explain a few instances. Perhaps I hallucinate randomly.

Again possible.

I'm pretty functional for a crazy person.

Maybe there are lots of totally functional people with crazy wiring out there.

You might want to consider that more than one person on this sort of thread is crazy, that more than one is just screwing with people. But that you it would be logically incorrect to assume that because there are several people who are, doesn't mean that everyone is.

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reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 08:21 PM by Ethereal Gargoyle

You might want to consider that more than one person on this sort of thread is crazy, that more than one is just screwing with people. But that you it would be logically incorrect to assume that because there are several people who are, doesn't mean that everyone is.

And that's why I never said anything of the kind.

Or implied it. Or even *thought* it.

"Crazy" is a notion foreign to my world. But I abhor the lack of logic and of (self)critical thought, doubly so when they are saddled with actual ignorance. And that I have seen here, there's no denying it.
And I am not talking about *you*. :-)

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reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 08:41 PM by Ethereal Gargoyle

Originally posted by labyrinth101
I hope you will share some of your own experiences, it all adds grist to the mill.

Well, here's some of my "grist", previously contributed to another mill.

Nobody cared about it there.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 09:05 PM by ldyserenity

Originally posted by Ethereal Gargoyle

You might want to consider that more than one person on this sort of thread is crazy, that more than one is just screwing with people. But that you it would be logically incorrect to assume that because there are several people who are, doesn't mean that everyone is.

And that's why I never said anything of the kind.
Or implied it. Or even *thought* it.

"Crazy" is a notion foreign to my world. But I abhor the lack of logic and of (self)critical thought, doubly so when they are saddled with actual ignorance. And that I have seen here, there's no denying it.
And I am not talking about *you*. :-)

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Well in my defense it may be something more than just crazy, I could have a tumor or the sinus infection could have made it's way to my brain, I could live with that idea, At least then it isn't just psychological. I would be totally normal after treatment and no psychotropics lol.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:12 PM by Ethereal Gargoyle

Originally posted by Ethereal Gargoyle

Well, here's some of my "grist", previously contributed to another mill.
Nobody cared about it there.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And nobody cares about it here either.

Ah well. Was hoping somebody had a similar experience or something.
Guess not....

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reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:52 PM by ldyserenity

reply to post by Ethereal Gargoyle

It happened to me one time I was walking up to catch the bus to work in Philadelphia and I was UP to the corner at the one side waiting to cross to the busstop when I heard a terrible sound of a car's screeching tires, I knew it was coming for me, absolutely knew I didn't have any time to react and knew in my soul I was going to be hit by this car, I blinked in disbeleif and then I was a few steps from the corner behind this tiny little tree, and saw the car speed into the turn and jumped the curve and rode down the sidewalk till it came to a stop inches fom me when it hit the tiny tree. Wildest thing I ever experienced... That car jumped the curb right where I was standing seconds before, I don't know what happened I do know however that I would have been dead, should have been dead by that car!

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:54 PM by antar

I am so glad to see this old thread resurface, it was only yesterday a newer member was attempting to question this in a new thread and for the life of me I coulnt remember what this one was called.

This is a very real phenomena and one that needs much more dicussion if possible.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 09:57 PM by sphinx551

Originally posted by antar

This is a very real phenomena and one that needs much more dicussion if possible.

I think this thread proves parallel universes.
That's how I would describe it in a sentence.

reply posted on 18-10-2009 @ 11:01 PM by Vanitas

Originally posted by antar
I am so glad to see this old thread resurface, it was only yesterday a newer member was attempting to question this in a new thread and for the life of me I coulnt remember what this one was called.

That's one of the reasons - the main reason, basically - why I proposed the creation of a "time/space anomalies" forum a while ago, where threads like this one could be gathered in an orderly fashion...

Regarding experiences like these last two, where apparently imminent, unavoidable traffic accidents were somehow "aborted", I can only say that I have heard about a story that was practically identical.
Even though I have no doubt that practically anything is possible, I still wonder whether the person didn't miscalculate the initial distance between the car and herself. But that's only because I didn't see it happen with my own eyes.

Testimonies like these make me wonder how many more people might have experienced such things - and, of course, what exactly (although I am willing to settle for "approximately"

) would be the cause of such a shift.

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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 10:36 PM by LiquidLight

Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by Ethereal Gargoyle

It happened to me one time I was walking up to catch the bus to work in Philadelphia and I was UP to the corner at the one side waiting to cross to the busstop when I heard a terrible sound of a car's screeching tires, I knew it was coming for me, absolutely knew I didn't have any time to react and knew in my soul I was going to be hit by this car, I blinked in disbeleif and then I was a few steps from the corner behind this tiny little tree, and saw the car speed into the turn and jumped the curve and rode down the sidewalk till it came to a stop inches fom me when it hit the tiny tree. Wildest thing I ever experienced... That car jumped the curb right where I was standing seconds before, I don't know what happened I do know however that I would have been dead, should have been dead by that car!

Quantum Immortality my friend. You quantum tunneled out of the path of the car and to safety.

reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 10:28 AM by Aeons

Originally posted by Ethereal Gargoyle

Originally posted by Ethereal Gargoyle

Well, here's some of my "grist", previously contributed to another mill.
Nobody cared about it there.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And nobody cares about it here either.
Ah well. Was hoping somebody had a similar experience or something.
Guess not....

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I would say I have seen similar phenomena, but not quite as dramatic.

This is why I can say without a doubt that the reason you don't see more people discuss this is that MOST people who encounter this scenario just change themselves to fit what must have happened because what they experienced doesn't fit the circumstances at hand.

People edit their memories on the fly. The best part about this is that if the edit happens right away, it happens before the person writes their working memory to short term and mid term memory. So the memory can be actually gone before it even imprints.

I've seen this happen numerous times, watching people reorder their brain to accomodate what must be/cannot be, to explain it away.

It must be a very good human survival trait, to reorder oneself to fit. People do it all the time with cultures, language, trauma, crime, etc.

Only when something happens to a sufficient number of people at the same time, and one or two of them will not be swayed do people not perform this mental trick to fit in. Of course, then they are fitting in to the crowd still, but one or two people grabbed the crowd before they could start the process of reordering themselves to their new environment. A couple of leaders gave the crowd the ability to resist by joining together.

Very very very few people seem to have the ability to resist this.

I'm not saying that I am ALWAYS that person. I certain feel the tug of the crowd, the need to not rock the boat, to change myself to fit in. I don't deny that I do. I do still seem to have more ability to retain what I experienced without it being changed to fit circumstances or a crowd. I think this is what lets people who see these odd events, and keep them in their minds as they experienced it. Sometimes even keeping more than one line of experience at the same time, without feeling the need to choose one over the other.

reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 11:37 AM by Ethereal Gargoyle

Originally posted by LiquidLight
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Quantum Immortality my friend. You quantum tunneled out of the path of the car and to safety.

I know you were not replying to my post, but what I saw was very similar and there was a BUMP. How would you explain the bump?

reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 12:06 PM by erasedhistory

I would say that it sounds like you are being programed. It's quite normal. Just keep leaving the sound on the t.v. during commercial breaks. Keep sleeping without earplugs. Keep going out into public without earplugs. Or you can do like a lot of us have. Stop watching t.v. stop listening to the radio. Stop going out into public without first puting in earplugs. Stop sleeping without earplugs. Soon the fog will lift and you will be able to see the truth. You will be able to actually see what's going on around you. Soon you will no longer be enslaved.

reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 04:49 PM by LiquidLight

reply to post by Ethereal Gargoyle

You know, I have no idea, but I wouldn't completely rule out a quantum event. Maybe some sort of time travel was involved.

reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 01:08 AM by Aeons

I am not a scientist. I don't perform experiments. But I can and do snowball concepts, and in that I have snowballed with quantum and string theory.

If you scaled up entanglement, and added a bit of string theory, you'd have the possibility of two event outcomes existing simultaneously. Instead of two (or more) states coexisting for a single particle, you could have the same effect for many many many particles at the same time.

If there was more at stake about the outcome, that the particles are not just entangled but part of a stream of potential, the outcome might be impacted by more than just the particles at hand existing in a person who is either alive or dead.

The need to choose one state may not be the same as the need to maintain a record of only one state of events. I just said that for some reason one state was chosen above the other, but that your mind could potentially keep both events in its record.

And that is where the foibles of the human mind come in.

One of those foibles is that we forget that we are not just OBSERVERS in the Universe. We are particles in the Universe. We are an amalgamation of particles, and one might expect that amalgamations of particles can and sometimes do act in a strange fashion as a single particle might.

You live Shrodinger's Cat. Now, the interesting question there becomes, does the threads of possibility impact the event and weigh towards one outcome more than another? Did the observation by multiple people, or yourself, pick one state over the other? Or is there an outside Observer?

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reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 12:33 PM by Ethereal Gargoyle

Originally posted by LiquidLight
reply to post by Ethereal Gargoyle

You know, I have no idea, but I wouldn't completely rule out a quantum event. Maybe some sort of time travel was involved.

Some sort of "shift", surely. The craziest thing was *seeing* that woman standing on the road and then standing on the sidewalk. There was no movement involved between the two sights; it was like two sequences of a movie badly stitched together. I didn't blink (I don' think so), I don't even know how to explain it. I know what I saw, but I don't know *how* I saw it, if that makes any sense.

reply posted on 23-10-2009 @ 09:30 AM by ldyserenity

Originally posted by Ethereal Gargoyle

Originally posted by LiquidLight
reply to post by Ethereal Gargoyle

You know, I have no idea, but I wouldn't completely rule out a quantum event. Maybe some sort of time travel was involved.

Some sort of "shift", surely. The craziest thing was *seeing* that woman standing on the road and then standing on the sidewalk. There was no movement involved between the two sights; it was like two sequences of a movie badly stitched together. I didn't blink (I don' think so), I don't even know how to explain it. I know what I saw, but I don't know *how* I saw it, if that makes any sense.

I've also seen this where an suv was going down the street approaching the turn and then it was gone I only turned away for a second turned back and no suv, and you can only go ten miles per hour around here and you can still see any vehicle go around the turn fully from where I was standing. No way could it have gone around the turn and dissappeared further down in the split second I had turned to the opposite direction.

This Quantum Immortality thing is very interesting, I had actually thought about that what if we just keep jumping out at the point of death to another parallel universe? That would suck cause the other side sounds alot better than here is!!!!

To the Other Poster about another outside observer, of course that would be god, the divine whatever one believes.

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