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posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 12:14 PM
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IMO, It's all about the next 10 to 15 years. If we can survive it in one piece and intact I think it will be okay.

I believe what everyone is feeling is the extreme pressure of change on the horizon. The billions of living souls that are reaching out to each other spiritually. A new type of communication evolving in humans. Seriously, Have you not been able to read someones state of emotions much clearer lately. A whole conversation between someone with a look at the store? Look into the eye's of the gas station cashier, really read them? Can you sense their state of being? Of course you can.

With how fast and the wide birth of information traveling into our brains today and more & faster tomorrow our understanding is increasing. It is this understanding that will allow us to join together as a species. It has to be this way. Together we will succeed.

I would like to see the world with every man woman and child in a home of some type in which they have access to nutritious food, water and education.

What would happen if the world declared a cease fire treaty? (no current event jokes please :-)) And in 6 months we got everyone food, water, medical treatment, some education and well being? Right now, this seems so logistically impossible, but it is not impossible it is improbable.

The spiritual sickness is making the 'timeline' wobble. What humans dream up typically shows up in reality eventually. (Example, how is that tri-corder treating you? i-phone is getting closer. many more examples)

People want to see the car wreck or the parachute not open instead of the miracle of life, the joy of having a family in any capacity. knowing your neighbor, helping your neighbor. Not having to lock your doors with an alarm system because someone might just walk in and hurt your baby daughter.

As an American I feel it is my luxury to say we need to raise up above and set a new standard of positive influence around the world because I am pretty sure no one else is looking to step up their game. I prefer this to war and people dying.

May we be positive and uplifting thinkers?

For example, I rather enjoy coming to ATS to read what you all have to say. I don't agree always, but I appreciate the ability to discuss alternative news and stories and I think it is awsome there is a place like this to debate these fun and exciting topics. Now take that positivity and spread it.

In a strange twist I feel that I have posted the positivity threat here multiple times, I know I have but this might be the first time on this line you have ever read it. Do something nice for someone today that might not deserve it.

good topic OP




posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:33 PM
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There is much scientific evidence to support my position; yes some of it is theory... much of it is not. I have posted links where appropriate.

There is a difference between "arrogance" and "confident self assuredness".

I am impatient with interjections that are completely implausible; such as channeled proclamations, messages from spirit guides and the various "new age" types of non-sense. And reserve my right to make note of those just as you can take any position you want against or in support of my perspective.

Additionally, I have not in my posts taken the position that I have a monopoly on the matter of this thread. I have consistently stated that some of my data is "my own theory butressed with MWI & years of previous research into this very issue" and that other points are not theory.... I have proposed, firmly, that the data I have is the most plausible. Whether you choose to confirm the parts of the data I have presented by reading up on it and whether you can understand it is up to you and your analytical skills.

Back on topic: welcome.

-Euclid



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 04:13 PM
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Thank you for your welcome and the calm, considered response.
As I said, I do find your information compelling but just felt that your flaming of alternative theories was a bit un-called for.
I wish you all the best in your research.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by the way
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Thank you for your welcome and the calm, considered response.
As I said, I do find your information compelling but just felt that your flaming of alternative theories was a bit un-called for.
I wish you all the best in your research.



I have a sensitive BS meter.
And I agree that some times I can get a little carried away.

Let's use an analogy: There is a problem with car. It won't start. Everyone's running around crazy. There are also no mechanics near by. I'm the only one who is the closest thing to a mechanic because I've actually changed the oil and replaced the oil filter in my car a few times so I have some experience. Everyone else doesn't even know what the oil filter looks like. I propose the reason the car won't start is because the main cable of the distributor cap is disconnected. But then some of the other people who have read Carlos Casteneda insist that the reason the car won't start is because the "cave spirits" that inhabit the car are unhappy because we didn't crawl into the car hands-and-head-first instead of feet first. And still others begin to question the objective reality of the car itself and begin to tell everyone to meditate in an effort to change the subjective reailty.
I can point to some thing "physical" that can be verified, even though it is just a theory; while the others just ramble "new age" drivel. (If you've read Castaneda his "mentor" Don Jaun actually said that about the spirits who inhabit cars..... they are like cave spirits and one must always enter a cave on hands and knees head first ...... whatever....
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-Euclid



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 06:06 PM
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HAHAHA I LOLed.

back on topic: I noticed a few more repeated news events. Also my parents asked me "did you know [name of a dentist]?" me: "yeah you told me two weeks ago that he died." my dad: "what? no I just found out today!" me: "uh, nevermind."

This has to be the 5th time something like this has happened and it's getting really annoying.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 06:28 PM
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Billy Graham was dead until I just read that he isn't. In my mind he died a few years back. My family thought the same. That is so strange. I am sure I have more examples that I cannot remember right now... They are at the back of my mind so I have to really think about it and see if I can recollect.

I have felt weird for a few weeks now. Something has changed and hence registered here. Today I saw this thread and I am so glad I am not alone but worried at the same time. It may not only be my imagination, after all!


I am going to ask 10 people and see if they feel the same. I will try to do it without leading questions.
[edited to add a recollection] I have been walking every night in the neighbourhood where I grew up for the past few weeks. I always look at the sky and have noticed that stars (three all in a row) have disappeared. I am sure they are there..but they are no longer where they I remember them to be. Could that be because of Precession? I know it is a little off topic but it has added to my creepy feeling

[edit on 18/8/08 by Lebowski achiever]



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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That's interesting.... so this dentist died and then your dad tells you that he just found out but he told you that before.....


Nice......

Just found some interesting stuff at ARIVX - "Quantum Entanglement in Time". Still reading it and will need to look at some other research docs that are related. It appears to tie in with quantum world-line deviation.

-Euclid


Originally posted by Aron1138
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HAHAHA I LOLed.

back on topic: I noticed a few more repeated news events. Also my parents asked me "did you know [name of a dentist]?" me: "yeah you told me two weeks ago that he died." my dad: "what? no I just found out today!" me: "uh, nevermind."

This has to be the 5th time something like this has happened and it's getting really annoying.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 06:32 PM
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Don't worry.... it isn't your imagination and you're not crazy. I think you'll find the answers from the people you question surprising. Keep us informed please.

-Euclid


Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
Billy Graham was dead until I just read that he isn't. In my mind he died a few years back. My family thought the same. That is so strange. I am sure I have more examples that I cannot remember right now... They are at the back of my mind so I have to really think about it and see if I can recollect.

I have felt weird for a few weeks now. Something has changed and hence registered here. Today I saw this thread and I am so glad I am not alone but worried at the same time. It may not only be my imagination, after all!


I am going to ask 10 people and see if they feel the same. I will try to do it without leading questions.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 05:04 AM
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I cannot say that i've felt anything different lately, but have indeed been feeling something for at least a year now. Its not anything tangeble, so have just always assumed its my state of mind and that Im going bonkers.

After reading this thread (well most of it) it reminded me of something I experienced as a teen in the early 90's, but wrote off as some sort of paranoia.

I went to sleep, and had the longest dream of my life, so much so, that it felt like ten years had past (The dream was one long vivid one and felt like real life) When I awoke, I didnt know where i was. It was asif I had to really search my longterm memory to remember where in the past i had actually gone to bed the previous night. It was so unreal to me I was almost convinced I was dreaming most of that day. Since then I have had numerous occasions where something would happen, and I'd feel like I have already been there done that.

I would randomly remember dreams (for the first time) I had years and years ago. I have asked everyone, and no-one has had this kind of recollection, where they remember a 5 year old dream for the first time.. Some of them feel so real that it seems like they stuck in my memory bank like real life experiences.

I cant put my finger on it, but something is really weird (well in my world anyway). If nothing else..I'm probably just going bonkers lol. I like to entertain the wierd, but always try and keep a level head.

If I dont understand how I feel, I try and keep calm and observe everything around me. I've had a few panic attacks lately (which im not prone to have) Then watch everyone around me and they all seem fine, so I just assume its my mind working overtime :-) It would be such a relief to me if i wasnt going nuts haha.....

Question is...how long do I wait before I just give in and write it off as an overactive immagination?



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 03:47 PM
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well let me put it this way I experienced this is 2002/2003 when I was 11/12 or something and I dismissed it as just that (events didn't match up, the sky looked weird, the color spectrum changed etc.). This time it's a lot more severe and I don't think I'll ever write it off as that again.



posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 04:42 AM
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i read a similar thread, and a member posed an interesting idea that i kinda follow along with now. Maybe it's from jumping into a universe from a possible death...like how in a bad car crash u could simply default to the parralel universe where your survival rate is higher than zero. So u die in one split and are alive in the next one with hardly a scratch...if it was done enough times or whatever, then maybe subtle differences could be noted. reminds me of "th dark tower" books where this type of travel is best imagined IMO. different presidents on currency from one day to the next, knowing two different timelines to be true at the same time, ect. i love these threads on time splits.



posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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Well, I have asked a few people about whether or not they felt 'Different' in any way in resent weeks (4 in fact) and 2 to admitted that they did. The other two just looked at me with a look of puzzlement.

I have to ask a few more but it is remarkable to say the least. What I found even more puzzling is that my feeling of "something is different" has dissipated somewhat. I feel slightly more 'normal' but I am thinking this may be because what felt weird and different feels normal now. Or the fact that I found I wasn't alone feeling that way.. OR because 2 of my loved ones denied to know what I was talking about.

Anyway... I am not so sure now. Is it all in the mind?



posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 02:36 PM
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I just found someone else who has a difference between their memories vs recorded history. Only she's saying recorded history is wrong, and is showing physical evidence which she says proves it.

She says she was in Baltimore in the spring of 1968, though one of her family members disagrees with her and says it was 1967. And she has photographs with timecodes printed on the back which she says proves it, and old handwritten journal entries.

Only recorded history says that Baltimore was literally in flames during the spring of 1968 after the assassination of MLK, and national guard patrolling the streets, and one of the places in the photographs already being burnt to the ground before she would have had a chance to be photographed there. But she says none of that was happening when she was there in the spring of 1968.

So now I'm confused. It's almost like she was there in a different history.



posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 02:47 PM
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You know, Scientists don't know how long it will take for the Sun to get to the center of our Universe (Event in 2012), so maybe it has begun and is throwing our magnetic field off a little at a time. Does that sound stupid?



posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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I recently awoke from a nightmare, where a friend of mine had been killed in Iraq... upon investigation, 3 other people had this dream, including his mother, on THE SAME NIGHT as mine. The details were exactly the same from all of us. My friend, of course, is not dead (THANK GOD!!!) but the fact that 4 people shared this "nightmare" seems just a little more than coincidental to me.



posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 10:11 PM
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you basically just quoted one of my posts from an earlier page in this thread it wasn't elsewhere. For the record I am the crasher and... well here I am so hi my name is Aron1138 and I'm dead in another reality.


For those of you who noticed major differences in a piece of music. Well I have and I feel your pain. I have listened to a specific song at night for 5 years now. This morning the song playing when I woke up was entirely different. It had the same tone but it emphasized different part of the music. The song used three pianos instead of one etc.

keep an eye out for anything remotely different no matter how subltle.



posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by TinFoilDerby

Originally posted by Pellevoisin
... One day I woke up to a world in which Nelson Mandela was very much alive and walking out of the prison.

I remember vividly his execution in South Africa -- so was it simply a bad dream. I don't think so, because I have met two other people who have very similar recollections of events and were likewise startled to see Mandela alive and well and walking into freedom.


This is the second time I've heard someone saying this ... very strange, for I have no such recollection.



I registered today just to respond to this, as the poster is not alone.

I too remember Nelson Mandela as being executed. I was in grade school in the mid 80's and his execution and events leading up to that death was quite a large sub chapter in my world history book. To the teacher, it was a 'recent' event in world history so the class had to do a paper about his execution and racism. I still can visualize bits and pieces of the textbook pages stating that he was a 'hero' that had lead an armed coup trying to overthrow the oppressive government, failed, was jailed, and later was executed.

You can imagine my surprise when all of a sudden, he was released from prison out of the blue. My first reaction to seeing it on TV was asking/telling those around me that I thought he was executed. All those I've ever asked about it look at me strange, as if I'm from another world.

Edit: Whats even stranger is I remember his release was after the LA riots. When looking at wikipedia, that's simply not possible as the LA riots were in 1992, and his release was in 1990.

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posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
Well, I have asked a few people about whether or not they felt 'Different' in any way in resent weeks (4 in fact) and 2 to admitted that they did. The other two just looked at me with a look of puzzlement.

I have to ask a few more but it is remarkable to say the least. What I found even more puzzling is that my feeling of "something is different" has dissipated somewhat. I feel slightly more 'normal' but I am thinking this may be because what felt weird and different feels normal now. Or the fact that I found I wasn't alone feeling that way.. OR because 2 of my loved ones denied to know what I was talking about.

Anyway... I am not so sure now. Is it all in the mind?


Is it all in the mind? Yes and no. The two people who said that they did "feel" some thing was different could be slightly more "aware", i.e. their conscious awareness is slightly more sensitive then the average schmoe. The people who gave you the trout-look are what I like to refer to as "asleep"; i.e. their conscious awareness is severely limited by their own myopic, self-imposed limitations and/or they may be from world-line where their shared-history correlates with their personal history - thus nothing seems "different" to them. And this fits the model I've outlined in previous posts in this thread.

As for the dissipative affects... I would suggest that is normal. I too have that same "feeling" over time. I attribute this to the way the "mind" adjusts to world-line collapses (quantum deviation) over time. After the collaspe has occurred the "conscious awareness" of the indvidual notices a difference. As the individual continues to transit time within the newly merged/collapsed world-line the "mind/conscious awareness" begins to be absorbed with the normal routine of living; and therefore doesn't "fight" the changes/differences that were the initial impetus for feeling//noticing the "difference".

When the next major world-line collapse occurs the "feeling" of some thing being different will arise into conscious awareness again.... and then dissippate again.

-Euclid


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posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 03:54 PM
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I recently listened to a 1998 video with Art Bell and "Speaking Wind" (you find it in a thread in the Prophecies category here on ATS). He talked about native prophecy and said there are five "worlds"... we're in the Fourth World now and are getting ready to transit into the Fifth World, some sort of paradisical existence. But before we can enter that world in 2012, we must let go of what he called "the illusion and the lie." He said at first we'd be given the choice to let go of this voluntarily, but later, closer toward 2012, the choice would be taken from us and if we resist, we'd be stripped of the illusion, willing or not.

I was thinking about that. Maybe this is the time where we need to realize that what we consider "reality" is anything but... that the world is a lot more complex and a lot stranger than we ever thought... that perhaps we ARE multidimensional beings that live in many universes simultaneously... and maybe those "world-lines" (I like that term) are overlapping now and we can shift back and forth more easily than we used to. This "reality hopping" seems to have vastly accelerated recently, and probably will increase even more.

My theory is that maybe the people who fight it and resist this -- consciously or subconsciously -- feel angry, aggressive, depressed, or some such, because their bodies and minds can't absorb/assimilate the tidal wave of new information coming in. If that's true, then conscious acceptance and surrendering to what's happening should be able to lessen those symptoms.

I don't know about you, but I find this quite plausible.

But I still want to add my own experience of a reality shift like many of you describe. Mine was on September 11, 2001.

At that time, my hubbie was driving an 18-wheeler cross country, hauling cars, and sometimes I went with him. The night before we had parked the truck in a parking lot in some small town near Boston. We woke up, switched on the radio and heard Howard Stern rant about the first, then the second plane hitting the WTC. We went to a breakfast place that had TV, and everyone was just standing and sitting there and watching the whole thing go down. I wasn't particularly shocked or devastated -- I just remember this totally surreal feeling, like I was dreaming. After breakfast, we went back to the truck. I was still tired, so I went in the back to sleep some more.

I had this extremely lucid, completely realistic dream: I woke up in the morning in the truck, we switched on the radio to listen to Howard Stern for a bit, then we went to the same breakfast place... nothing out of the ordinary happened, just business as usual... then came back to the truck and I was still tired, so I went back to sleep. When I woke up from my nap, I said to my hubbie: "You know, I just had the weirdest dream: some terrorists crashed planes into the WTC."

At that moment, I REALLY woke up (the part where I said that to my hubby was still part of the dream)... and realized that the totally surreal trip was REALITY and my "ordinary day" was actually the DREAM!!! For about an hour, I felt totally disoriented and just couldn't tell which was which. I still think sometimes today that on that morning, I shifted into another world-line, and that there's still another -- the "original" -- Me out there who lives in that reality where nothing at all happened on that day.

Is that weird or what?

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posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 05:24 PM
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If you read my previous posts the multidimensionality of our phenomenological existence is implied and supported by quantum mechanics/physics. It's all in the model I've presented and it does fit some of what you stated.... though I completely disagree with the idea of the "5th world prophecy" thing.

Yep, that's a really strange dream too. I had a dream like that once. I woke up, drove to work and did all the things I would normally do... then I woke up and realized that the whole day I thought I was at work was really a dream.... so then I had to get out of bed and get ready and go to work for real.

-Euclid

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