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posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 09:55 PM

Originally posted by Aron1138
Ok, I haven't heard anything like this so here it goes. Have you noticed anything while driving? Like getting lost because you don't recognize your surroundings in an area you've lived in for more than 4 years? Two days ago I almost got lost on my way to college I kept thinking "I must have missed the turn I don't remember any of this scenery." sure enough I kept driving and I got there. Today I did the same thing (although I have no recollection of taking the first exit which is VITAL to getting to where I am talking about. Also I arrived at my destination SO early it is completely impossible. The trip takes 35 minutes at least with hardly any traffic. Traffic was ridiculous and it only took me 20.

I have been living in Corpus for 3 ½ years. I have made the trip to the VA Clinic numerous times. Back in May, I left for a 20 min trip to the VA. I got lost. The area was totally unfamiliar to me and I almost panicked. After driving around for ½ hour, I finally called the clinic and cancelled my appointment. I finally found the crosstown. It took me 15 minute to get home. At the time, I just chalked it up to being tired.

Last weekend at IHOP, I started having problems with my peripheral vision. It was fluttering. I thought it was the fans. I also had an intense headache in my temples. Later we went to Wal-Mart for groceries and I nearly passed out. I have been exhausted all week, yet at bed time, I am not sleepy.

*Edit to say that after the site redirected me to my post, it didn't show up. It took a full minute for the site to catch up and my clock jumped from 9:54 to 9:56. My post was logged on at 9:55.

[edit on 7/18/2008 by darkelf]

posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:02 PM
Keeps jumping from 33 pages to 37. Had same problem when I edited my post.

posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 09:33 AM
Ive been away for 7 days and its intrigueing how this thread has grown. As I said before I went I have been diarying all seven days away, results as follows:

15th and 18th : huge feelings of deja -vu all day long, for the silliest reasons, cullminating in the local 6.00pm UK news being known word for word, picture for picture before it started. I was able to tell my wife what was coming next and in what order. She was more than amazed !. Also my body clock has stabalised and Im waking at 6.15am ( 2 hours earlier than I have been) No other anomalies over the week. I will continue to diary every day for a while, not only what happens, but also what I expect to do each day, ticked if i do it.

Its good to be back.

posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 11:00 AM
can anyone describe the kinda funeral these people who were dead but now are alive had.

Because maybe when they actually die you would have foretold how the funeral will be like when it happens.

Am I making sense?

posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 11:02 AM
reply to post by grey580

Grey 580, I believe you are correct.

There has been a SHIFT in fundamental alliances.

The scientists are coming home.


posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 11:05 AM
bit freaked out right now at 2:00 Am on the dot i just heard a gun shot.

and I live in the quietest place on earth at the moment and hmmm wth...

I don't feel to good about it right now.

posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 01:01 PM
reply to post by amraks

let me help you be more specific:

Common Guns (don't worry)
.45 colt 1911 (most awesome gun ever

.45 Beretta M9:

.50 Dessert Eagle (Israeli favorite):

.357 magnum/Desert Eagle Comparison:

12 gauge:

20 gauge:

Uncommon Guns (worry)

lots of M16s:


P90 (don't worry... just run)

M4: (don't worry since... well let's just say someone was killed and apparently it wasn't you)

[edit on 19-7-2008 by Aron1138]

posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 07:51 PM

Originally posted by sarcastic
reply to post by grey580

Grey 580, I believe you are correct.

There has been a SHIFT in fundamental alliances.

The scientists are coming home.


I have to back this up.

I have been on this thread since about the 8th of July.

I have posted many strange things here since then, in this thread, including DREAMS.

I thought that everything had turned back to normal for the past 4 or 5 days.

I was terribly mistaken.

Last night one of my Dreams posted here came true, in reality until the break of dawn this morning. I'm having a really hard time dealing with it, and I'm quite confused as to how I could know something before it happend. And I'm glad I posted it here. In retrospect, I can see that my dream was CODED for me not to be able to decipher it until the instance occured... then I Immediately realized what was going on, and how may dream had been 100% SPOT ON, including damage to my arms with sharp instruments, and the tingling that I felt as i tried to recover from the dream state.

I cant relay the details because its highly personal, and frankly I'm quite Hurt and shocked, and confused. Deceived is the word that I'm looking for, as well as Spiritually Chalenged.

Suffice it to say that I can summerize what is happening to me in a few lines.

1. Being given choices between good and evil in my personal life.

2. Being Misdirected , Deceived and Tricked by 'close energies' around me, that I thought were wholly good and were on my side.

3. Group Consciousness is banging at my door and I cant control it.

4. Communication with higher intelligences, in the form of Pictures and Light energy, 2 way communication, and not verbal. ( feelings, Pictures, and emotions) I dont have to speak it, I just have to think it...

5. People are approaching me who have the same feelings or ideas, that I Do NOT Know, as if they can sense it about me. We seem to be communicationg visually and spiritaully.

6. I am sensing the same thing from several people that I have seen in the past 48 hours, that I dont know. Also MANY on HERE I can feel their good intentions, from a single post. its Like were are one mind, to a very small extent.

7. At least 4 Dead People have shown themselves with in my group of friends, and 2 were to me. I can follow up on one in particular, but I'm not ready to make that committment physicaly yet. I'm mentally just getting a grasp on it. Ive been invited to come see.

8. I'm seeing choices to be made, that are like a fork in the road.... what I DO determines the destination and outcome, or even what I THINK or Feel.

9. I'm very weak and almost sick to my stomach from overload of Spiritual occurances this week.

10. I think thast it is increasing, and did not get back to normal as I thought it had.

11. Deja Vu's are abundandant, and many are personal and would not mean anything to anyone else, especially in typed form.

12. I feel under attack from a Spiritual Being that is trying to literally PULL ME into its realm. Its Not nice and its not petty.

13. I'm Spiritual, not really religious, But Going to GOD has SEVERELY crossed my mind in BIG way these past few days, and Verbally cslling out to him as well.


Many more things are simply too personal to post to the world.. such as details and what happened to show me that my posted dreams were to be fact.

I believe that we are ALL being Tested and Awakened to a higher consciousness, that is not necessarialy human in nature.

The Choices thatr we make now and the alliances that we are forming are extremely important to the future of Spiritual Mankind.

The communication that I had today started out like yelling in a crowd.. HEY YOU.... no one turns aroung, HEY! response was are you attemptng to talk to me, then opening up to receive communication, third thing was RESPONSE to my Sending of the WAVES to this entity, that answered back visually with reversed direction waves that were much more powerful. I could see them as Light like a flashlight, with a doughnut in the middle... Kinda like a drop of water hittin the pavement... drop them SPLASH across my consciousness.

I could only do this for a few minutes before I lost it, by thinking about it too much. It seemd as if I TRIED, it make it weaker, but if Imjust allowd it to FLOW slowly, it was much stronge... kinda automatic..

Anyway, I know this sounds crazy, But I promise you its very real, and I have lived it for the past 20 hours.

Mainly the reason I'm postin ghthis is to tr to come to grips with what is happening... on many different levels..

The Common Thread seems to be Good and Evil Choices, but even that simplifies it way too much.

I have Noticed a Softening of my stances with other people, and i'm not quite as "hair trigger" with others. this is a change that is less than 3 weeks old, and I can also see it in my posts here.

July 6th seemed to be the day that changed it all for me. Just a note.

This is by no means complete, and its difficult to even get this far, as I am severely weak and confused badly right now.

I just got back form a 3 hour meeting with a Spiritual Advisor to discuss these happenings and go into a lot more detail. I shed many tears in that 3 hours, and I'm doing the same thing typing this m=now.

Bottom line is that I believe that something has changed... inside me at least, but I believe this to be on a World Wide Basis simply from observations in my personal life and reading what others have posted here on ATS.

Communication is taking on a more Picture form, instead of words.

I know this is long, and its not complete, but SOMETHING is HAPPENING on an Other Worldly, Spiritual, defying logic and due process way.

Love and Peace Seem to be the order of the day, even in my thoughts.

Believe me thats a BIG change Overnight.


If it was not so personal, I would share the detail ... Honestly I would.

[edit on 19-7-2008 by Blitzkreigen]

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 03:28 AM
Has anyone noticed people they know who seem to have had a complete personality change? I personally know of 2 people who act like they had a switch flipped or something. One day they are the person I have always known and the next day it's like invasion of the body snatchers or something....they're not the same personality. These 2 people look the same, sound the same, have (seemingly) the same continuity of memories, etc. but their values, personality, character, everything unique to those individuals has changed. They don't seem to notice it.

One of these people I was quite close to and fond of and now, without explanation, are openly hostile and antagonistic to me. The other (have known for 36 years) will not even speak to me. I begged to know if I had offended either of them or what heinous error I had commited that would cause them to abruptly cut off all communications with me but got no answer. These 2 people have never met each other (if that's important?).

This is a fairly alarming development. These are not names on a celebrity page but people I know and associate with. These are people I know very well. Correction: KNEW very well. I just want to shake them and scream, "who are you and what have you done with my friends?" I don't because strait jackets don't look good on me but I have to wonder what could possibly cause such a drastic and immediate personality change in life long associates.

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 08:18 AM
reply to post by Blitzkreigen

Blitzkreigen I have to admit I first took your case as Sleep Paralysis however I see now I was wrong. It appears you are one of the more aware people in this group of "Awakened". I wish there was something I could say (because I usually can) but oddly all that comes to mind is:

We each were each chosen for a reason. Weather it be by Divinity,fate or merely chance we have survived. We stand here completely changed, outcasts to those around us. We can't sit idly by and watch the world around us fall apart. You aren't the same now you will never be so stop acting like it. Start reacting to everything the opposite of what you usually would and you will be surprised what you discover. Don't let the pain stop you.

Not entirely sure what all of it means but I was compelled to write it so there you go.

[edit on 20-7-2008 by Aron1138]

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 10:59 AM
I can say I see a change in my husband in the last month. He is very anti-social.
In the last month he has been smiling ( he never does that) and he has been talking to people. Even strangers in grocery stores! VERY much not him.

When he did a personality test he was 98% anti-social.

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:27 AM
A family member is treating my Dad like crap. They are close, and she's been very negative towards him, etc. Were chalking it up to the fact that she's going through something and well, my Dad does have a tendancy to get a bit annoying, but it's harmless stuff with him... just forgetting to pick up the loaf of bread, or getting turned around, acting dippy, stuff like that. Nothing to warrant yelling at him in front of everyone.

I've noticed a few changes in me, I am more energetic lately, have been sleeping less, and I don't spend nearly as much time on the computer as I used to. Even though things are going wrong all around me personally and in the world I am still positive and know things will be ok no matter what happens. I don't get all depressed like I used to and I'm not as crabby as I was a month ago.

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 12:27 PM
reply to post by whitewave

I know exacly what You are talking about sadly :/ My GF which has been with me for over 7 years , suddenly changed 180 degrees . its like she lost all the emotional traits that she once had , she is a totally different person (even thou she looks , talks , smiles , the same she acts totally different) , it hard to explain but I have known her for over 10 years . Its like somebody just switched her with somebody else that looks just like her :/ And the worst part of it is that even thou she aknowledged that she knows something is different in her behavior she dosent seem to care that she just changed over a period of 1 or 2 days :/

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 04:31 PM
Thill and others,

This seems astonishing to me that people of long-standing steadfastness would have a complete about face in their entire personality.

I was reading on John Hammells site (IAHF) yesterday about how the chemicals and biological agents being sprayed in the air are causing this sense of disorientation, confusion, personality change. Apparently there is some scientist he knows that's working on it, too. I hope they find an answer soon as I miss (and fear for) my friends.

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 08:26 PM
An Aggregation of Anomalous World-line Discrepancies
Prepared by:

I have been following this thread for a while. Some of you may have seen my other posts and were aware that I was researching the cause and a possible solution. I recounted in previous posts some of the odd incidents that I have experienced to these “world-line” and world history discrepancies. Amazingly, I discovered that there are numerous people who have different memories of our shared world history and that there are certain physical symptoms that appear to accompany these phenomena as well. Some of what is below is from previous posts. I have included it here and modified some of it to reflect new information.

Context is everything. There is, and has been for some time now, an issue with what some are calling "time-lines". I prefer to use world-line instead as it is a term that is used in the Everett-Wheeler-Dewitt "Many Worlds Interpretation". Please note that I do not embrace in totality any current quantum mechanical theory; many of the current theories have "pieces" of the truth but none of them to date have the complete understanding. And I do not pretend that I do either. I am a Generalist. I look for patterns and attempt to fit together disparate pieces of information to discover the Nature of things. I've looked at the various theories and taken bits here and there and formulated what I believe is going on to cause the phenomena that many are experiencing; it does not require spiritual awakening or the invocation of gods, devils, angels or demons.

A description of the problem is apropos. As I said context is everything when analyzing a set of data. I have listed below the various phenomena that are implicitly associated with the current problem-set. A small subset of data is provided as examples of these below.

Symptoms of the problem:

1. Physical and psychological disorientation
a. Strange feelings that some thing has changed
b. tiredness, aloofness, lethargy, melancholia, deja vu, etc
2. Chronological disorientation
a. time speeding up or slowing down
b. clock time changes
3. Astronomical dislocations
a. Celestial bodies apparently not in their correct positions at certain times, e.g. - Sun/Moon;
b. variations in the transits of the Sun & Moon
4. Solar/atmospheric anomalies
a. Sun brightness changes
b. huge record X class flares during a solar minimum
c. scientist noting concern that there has been NO sunspot activity of any significance for many months
5. Climate anomalies
a. All planets in solar system experiencing global warming
b. Dramatic modification in Earths climate
i. north pole ice melt
ii. floods, earthquakes, tsunami,
c. ice melt on Mars
d. furthest planets from the sun experiencing large increases in barometric pressure and temperatures, etc
6. Minor Temporal modifications
a. small scale changes to tangible media that do not correlate to historical memories, i.e. - text in books/magazines/movies/music modified and do not correlate to memory
7. Major Temporal modifications
a. Large scale changes to tangible media that do not correlate to historical memories, e.g. - People who died are alive again
b. Increase in the discovery/identification of extinct or “new” species of animals and insects

The above symptoms are not confined to certain geographical areas on the planet.

(Continued in next post)

[edit on 20-7-2008 by euclid]

[edit on 20-7-2008 by euclid]

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 08:27 PM
Postulates that could cause all of the above phenomena to occur simultaneously:

1. LHC
2. Carbon gas emissions
3. Galactic plane
4. Spiritual development of human species
5. End Times (ala the book of Revelations)

1. The LHC could not be the root cause of the problem; contradictory to my preliminary analysis though it is part of the problem. It does possess the necessary energy to have an effect on localized matter and time. It is producing synergetic effects that are amplifying the root cause of the problem.

2. Carbon gas emissions could not be the root cause though they may play a tangential role in some small percentage of local climate change. It does not account for the climate change in the Sol System of planets that are uninhabited by humans and therefore cannot be the "root cause".

3. The galactic plane is the root cause. The "galactic plane" is an astrophysical/astronomical term to describe a huge gravitational plane that emanates from the center of our Milky Way galaxy. At the center of our galaxy is a super-massive blackhole. It is what keeps our galaxy from flying apart. When blackholes become as large as the ones that usually inhabit the center of a spiral galaxy they flatten-out into a (relatively) thin toroidal plane; if you imagine a flattened doughnut you will have a good idea of what it would look like if you could see it. This flattened out gravitational torus extends from the center of the blackholes event horizon and far beyond the physical edges of our galaxy. The blackhole spins and it has a rotation of axis and our galaxy spins on an axis of rotation with it; the matter in the galaxy whirling around with it. The galaxy has a wobble in its rotation just as the earth has a wobble in its axis of rotation. The wobble causes our part of the spiral galaxy to transit through the gravitational field of the flattened-out blackhole; which astrophysicists call the "galactic plane". Now think about that for a moment. What does a blackhole do? It warps the space-time in its immediate vicinity. It creates friction around its rotational field. This will without a doubt cause space-time anomalies as we approach it. The friction caused by these warps will cause the solar system to heat up and cause the Sun to change in brightness. Because it is a gravitational field it will cause discrepancies in the transit of local celestial bodies. It will definitely cause large scale climate and geological changes on earth and other planets in the Sol system. It may cause physical and psychological disorientation; it is well known that strong EM fields interact with the ferro-magnetic structure of the human brain. Blackholes are theorized to effect time as they affect space; thus world-lines collapsing, or merging, together is a very real possibility which would account for the major and minor temporal modifications that some have experienced.

4. The spiritual development of the human species cannot be the root cause of the problem under investigation because it does not provide any tangible interactions with the temporal reality that we see. Spirituality by its very nature is intangible. The EM and gravitational influences are cauing what some have experienced as "awakenings, enlightenment, epiphanies, etc". These experiences are tangential effects and are symptoms of the interactions of natural and man-made processes that are in no way spiritual.

5. The End Times. Historical records indicate that this cycle was a well known cycle that unfortunately was mangled through the conduit of time; beginning as fact, morphing into a distant recollection, then into myth, then into legend and finally what we have now.... The Christian mythos contained in Revelations is a recounting and modification of much earlier data, particularly Sumerian. But even that accounting is of an older recollection. It should be noted that many civilizations recount in their historical records the following:

a. The moon stood still and set where it rose (Meso-American legends as well as other central and South American legends)
b. There was a great flood (the bible, the Americas)
c. A great civilization sank under the seas (Plato’s reference to Atlantis, Middle Eastern legends and history, Meso-American legends, central &south American legends)
d. And a lot of others out there and you can find more correlation just by searching the web

(Continued in next post)

[edit on 20-7-2008 by euclid]

[edit on 20-7-2008 by euclid]

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 08:27 PM
Final Summary

All postulates appear to be contributing factors to the problem with “time” we all have been experiencing; excepting postulate #2. Though I do not inherently believe the Biblical account as a judgment from God I do believe it was originally a recounting of the last time our planet passed through the galactic plane and it was reworked to support the geopolitical orthodoxy of the church during the era it was re-written. There is nothing spiritual about this although some people will have epiphanies and "enlightened" states due to the EM and gravitational fields involved. Only postulate 3 can explain all the phenomena that people have noted in this thread and other threads.

Wheeler posits that time branches like a tree or river in his MWI (Multiple Worlds Interpretation, a.k.a. relative-state formulation); causing "new" world-lines to be created. I don't think that is how it really works. At the layer of reality below the quantum there is no time as we know it from our everyday temporal existence. I posit that the multi-verse is extant with multiple world-lines. No need for branching. Our conscious awareness perceives one world-line at a time. When an individual makes a certain decision their conscious awareness is shifted to a slightly different world-line containing the same shared world-line history with a modified future that correlates to the point of differentiation – the decision. All shared historical data integrity is maintained and shared memories correlate between all sentient beings when this transiting occurs normally.

Though at a lower layer of reality we are a waveform that is intimately “entangled” or otherwise connected to the other world-lines of which we are normally unaware.

Every “thing” in our particular universe is composed of subatomic particles. We know that these particles also function as waves. It is not a great leap to suggest that human consciousness in its various energetic forms also is comprised of the same materials – particles and waves.

The easiest way to mitigate the intensity of the “problem” is to somehow prevent the LHC from executing certain experiments in the future. At this time we are unable to identify exactly “which” experiment is causing the amplification of the world-line collapses. It should also be noted that even if someone is able to achieve the task of preventing the LHC from executing all or a portion of the experiments we would still experience some world-line collapses due to the nature of the “2012”/Galactic-plane/gravitational-field traversal. So merely shutting down the LHC will not “solve” the problem completely. It will only mitigate it in the sense that the world-line collapses would be less dramatic at first; with increasing intensity as our part of the galaxy traverses the densest portion of the gravitational plane; that point being the most intense with a fall-off of intensity as we exit.

At the present there is no practical way to solve this issue. The LHC has been activated in one or more world-lines and we are seeing the effects of it in the present (the past from the perspective of the future). The only way to reduce these effects to their lowest intensity is to prevent the LHC from becoming fully operational in as many world-lines as possible. Sadly, we can do nothing except wait it out. The data we have collected and analyzed suggests that at a point in the future world-lines will begin to separate into their proper and distinct sub-sets; with shared world-histories being restored. We do not know how long this will take to occur though the data suggests it could take decades for it to fully resolve it self.

There is the remote possibility that just by being aware of what I have written above and communicating it into the conscious awareness of more people that we can affect the desired out come by “thinking” it into existence. It is a well-known fact in quantum mechanics that “observation” causes a change/shift in quantum information patterns. There is a remote possibility that the more people who know this information the more quantum information patterns will be modified; becoming adjacent to our world-line and perhaps collapsing into our current primary world-line creating a shared world-line history where the LHC never became operational. It is a long shot….it is all we have at the moment.


[edit on 20-7-2008 by euclid]

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posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 09:15 PM
reply to post by euclid

Euclid, I've just started reading your last three posts, but wow:

Excellent stuff! Perhaps another thread is in order? It seems a shame to have this buried on page 34 (or what is page 34, today
). Research forum, maybe?

posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 10:38 PM
I guess so... I just tried but I don't have permission to post there. Oh well....


Originally posted by Ian McLean
reply to post by euclid

Euclid, I've just started reading your last three posts, but wow:

Excellent stuff! Perhaps another thread is in order? It seems a shame to have this buried on page 34 (or what is page 34, today
). Research forum, maybe?

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Aron1138
reply to post by Blitzkreigen

I wish there was something I could say (because I usually can) but oddly all that comes to mind is:

We each were each chosen for a reason. Weather it be by Divinity,fate or merely chance we have survived. We stand here completely changed, outcasts to those around us. We can't sit idly by and watch the world around us fall apart. You aren't the same now you will never be so stop acting like it. Start reacting to everything the opposite of what you usually would and you will be surprised what you discover. Don't let the pain stop you.

Not entirely sure what all of it means but I was compelled to write it so there you go.

[edit on 20-7-2008 by Aron1138]


Thank you for writing that.

I understand the compelling to do something that does not make sense to me, but it might to others.

I am trying to do the opposite of what I normally would do, within reason, and without getting negative or aggressive.

Your advice is exactly what 3 other people have told me to do within the last 48 hours.

Its tough, and the pain...

I appreciate your input.
I can see that this is going to take along time.

Also, Thank you to everyone who has been U2u ing me on this subject.

Its great to know that I'm not alone, and that others are going through this too.

Its really tough right now, and I think friends, advisors and People HERE are helping 1000%

I cant thank you all enough.


( letting the clock tick, drinking water and meditating )


Imagine a Samurai Sword being forged.

The metal is put into the fire and heated until it glows red hot.

The Swordsmith hammers and hammers and shapes the sword until it cannot be shaped anymore.

Then the Sword goes back into the fire to get red hot again, and the hammering continuies.

When it cant be shaped has to go back into the fire again.

The process repeats.

This is what I'm feeling.

[edit on 21-7-2008 by Blitzkreigen]

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