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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:28 AM
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I thought he was dead too,I remember seeing it in the news (CNN,abc,cbs).Very strange,I googled his name and he's alive,I did find an article after doing more google searches talking about his death,so is he alive or dead




posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:38 AM
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I too remember billy Graham dying,it was all over the news.I did a google search and it says he's alive.
Whats going on,One ATS member mentioned that Gary Coleman died in 1998,I didn't remember that until he posted it here,he's alive too.
opps I made another post because I thought my first post did not show up.

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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:29 AM
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Night 4: I drive home like a said I was and am followed turn by turn by a black Grand Prix GXP for at least 30 miles. (this is an unusually nice car for the region I was driving in. The driver has very common features and pitch black sunglasses. It followed me all the way to my subdivision then turned into a daycare just diagonal from my subdivision. Naturally I pass my house and make another turn I wait a bit and turn around. The view is partially blocked by trees but when I turn off I can distinctly make out a Grand Prix GXP still sitting there (is it a pick up your kid or a steak out?). I couldn't tell if the driver was in it or not because the side windows and rear window were tinted as black as the paint. I park my car and walk to the day care (longer walk than I thought) and he's gone.

I hear 2 gunshots coming from my subdivision. I am aware of what every weapon in existence sounds like and this one was damned weird. sort of like a shotgun overlapped by a whistle. I run back to my house (long run not smart) and everything's fine.

3 hours later:
I found 2 scratches on my shin and 2 more on my knee both horizontal and evenly sized. (the first 2 are about the width of my index finger apart and the second was smaller but equally spaced for it's size.) I have no memory of these.

Day 5: I woke up this morning at 6:00 still not ideal but it's a heck of a lot better. I looked at the scratches on my knee and they are gone except for a faint discoloration (I heal fast). The scratches on my knee have decreased in size but now actually look worse. When I first saw them they were just little red marks like someone scratched you with a Lego brick. Now they are bright yellow scabs. Their appearance suggests they were deep enough to be painful and draw blood. I would definitely remember this.

My parents weren't home and for some reason I decided to sleep in my parents bed instead. I woke up at 9:00 there was a drop of blood on the pillow. I searched my face with my right hand finding no open wounds and my nose didn't appear to have bled. I look at my left hand and there's another drop of blood on my thumb. I wipe it off and dismiss the whole subject.

I then Hear a loud humming noise followed by a trailing whistling. First thought "damn neighbors again!" no, no , and nope. I get on the computer and log on to this forum and I feel a high frequency vibration in my desk. I open the window to hear distant humming and a whistling sound. By the time I get outside I hear nothing.



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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 10:44 AM
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Mandela is a commie scumbag who has turned the most industrious and beautiful country on the African continent into a seathing cesspool of murder and mayhem.

The Globalists wanted to turn the country back over to scum like Mandela in the furtherance of their plans to institute their New World Order.

Why do people like you play into the hands of those who are destroying us?!?



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 11:22 AM
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Well, I'm reading thru this thread and just kinda on the fence.. until I read this....

Early last week I woke up and glanced at my bedside clock and it said 9 am ... ok cool...... I roll outta bed and as I'm passing my husbands computer I glance at the screen and notice his computer says its 8 am.......

So I shake my head and say "honey your PC is off by an hour..."

His response "mmmmm ok" as he's half asleep. so I go grab a morning tea and a little somethin to munch on and sit myself down to check my email at MY computer and glance to my corner loack and notice it says 10 am...

?!?!?!?!??!?!?

by now I'm like WTHOLY HECK!!!

so I turn on the TV and flip thru to a few different news channels and the TV guide channel to check the time.... it's 10am....

wtf happened?? why was his pc two hours behind and the beside clock an hour behind. I know it wasnt a power outage or else the digital clock would have been flashing...

I just brushed it off as temporary insanity and didnt think about it again til now.... wow....



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 12:19 PM
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for some reason when I think about things like this happening in the past I seem to remember dismissing it it immediately. Anyone else notice this that has had these things happen before?



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 02:09 PM
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What are you talking about?

Additionally, No where in any of my posts have I mentioned that ANY government is involved in these strange discordant events.

-Euclid


Originally posted by clg79
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Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. ((1 Corinthians 15:51-52))


First time posting here but I've read through the messages on this topic.

The ones who claim a major difference in reality in my opinion would have died in their reality. But for some reason or another the ones here claiming this reality is different are the ones saved. They are being given a second chance and even if we deny religious beliefs we cannot deny what is taking place at this moment.

The government doesn't have this much power of reality. You are given them godlike abilities and they can't even take care of their own countries let alone change the time line.





posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 03:19 PM
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(weren't these posts a page back?)

A few people were talking about the Philadelphia Project and electromagnetic brainwashing, so yeah I don't see how this relates to anything you ever said elucid.

Apparently he thinks the verse is relevant because it's saying that we will all be changed, but not everyone will notice and we will loose sleep. Also it mentions the dead rising w/e. No clue what it means by they have risen incorruptible. Also almost anything from The Bible is subject to translation so incorruptible could mean any number of things. (the arabic word for non-corrupting also means alleviation)

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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:10 PM
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It is a non sequitur in the context of the issue and thus my response. "We" as individuals are NOT changing. The shared history of our current world-line is different than people remember.... thus we as individuals are not "changing" the world-line we are in is "changed".

Eschatology is inapplicable to the problem. See my previous posts if ya'll haven't (specifically this one: www.abovetopsecret.com... and this one: www.abovetopsecret.com...). If they have and still don't understand why biblical eschatology, and its correlates in new age spiritualism/ascension-ism (argumentum ad hominem infinitum), have no bearing on this "problem with time" then....... I have nothing to say to those who cling to "belief" rather than "Reason".

-Euclid


Originally posted by Aron1138
(weren't these posts a page back?)

A few people were talking about the Philadelphia Project and electromagnetic brainwashing, so yeah I don't see how this relates to anything you ever said elucid.

Apparently he thinks the verse is relevant because it's saying that we will all be changed, but not everyone will notice and we will loose sleep. Also it mentions the dead rising w/e. No clue what it means by they have risen incorruptible. Also almost anything from The Bible is subject to translation so incorruptible could mean any number of things. (the arabic word for non-corrupting also means alleviation)

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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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Has anyone seen this list: www.deathlist.net... I don't know how accurate it is.... but it looks like an interesting resource for research.

-Euclid



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 07:58 PM
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I asked my father if Billy Graham was alive or not and he said "nooo, he died a few years ago!" Then my mother agreed with him about that. I also asked if they recalled if Ernest Borgnine was alive or not and both again agreed that he died a few years ago. I also remember him passing away of a heart attack and I don't even remember him being in that movie with Brandon Lee (I've watched all Brandon Lee movies and never recalled Borgnine in it.

My parents recall the Shuttle explosion in 1986 and also the Soviets landing on the moon as well. My dad is 65 and my mother is 59 years of age.

Bill Bixby died of lung cancer in the 80's and even though I was still young then I remember him because I used to watch the Incredible Hulk tv series. I checked IMDB yesterday and it said he died of Lung Cancer. Today I check it now and it reads as:

Date of Death:
21 November 1993, Century City, California, USA (prostate cancer)

Yesterday it said 1996 and now it is 1993?



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:06 PM
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Time and space are like the flows of the water in the ocean. They flow together but they each go their own way when the winds hit upon them. We are all separated and going our own way in dimensional rifts but we still make sense without defaulting on some basic laws of physics (because we are still water regardless of where the wind blew us).

That is how I'm seeing all of this taking place right now. I don't believe it was some government time machine or some evil scientist trying to make himself out to be a God figure.

The alignment prophecies have something to do with this as well as an escalation of fears (ww3, stock market crash...and so on). What we collectively think we so collectively will to our reality.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 08:13 AM
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I made a post a few pages back. The Russians DID land on the moon with an unmanned probe and took some pictures. Also they sent two probes into orbit the last of which had the communist star on it. Also the Challenger exploded in '86 what about it?

Also that would be a great theory if Lincoln, JFK, Martin Luther King Jr. weren't shot and "remained dead". I mean
do you think we all collectively willed Gary Coleman to come back or some of the others mentioned?

[edit on 18-7-2008 by Aron1138]

Also as a note I have apparently "aligned" with this reality because I no longer feel RLS-esque feelings over my entire body, and I woke up at exactly the time I usually do. However the cuts I don't remember getting are infected now.

[edit on 18-7-2008 by Aron1138]
nvm what I said the sensations are coming back. They usually start on the right hand side of my face. I don't feel hunger or thirst as often as I used to either.

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posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by euclid
Has anyone else noticed that there are post that were not here before that show up inbetween posts? I've read through this entire thread now 4 times and "new" posts with old date stamps show up where they were not the previous times I've read through, they just didn't exist at the time. And some of my posts are..... different; same ideas and concepts but worded differently than I remember.

-Euclid


[double post strikes again]

Yeah I definitely have seen this twice now. Also I suppose it can be explained with... some rule/study in Quantum Physics I can't seem to recall.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:44 AM
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Didn't several people here PRINT out this thread when pages were jumping into nonexistnat numbers, at least TWICE that I saw?

There are simply too many posts here for me to remember them, and their order, but I KNOW several people PRINTED this thread at about page 25.

Perhaps they could look back on their printout, and find if the post appearing are "anonymous posts".

I can see Anonymous people posting, the ATS server " Marking" a place for the post... waiting for it to get APPROVED, a regular member posts and it goes on immediately, then when the ANON posts are approved, they go to where the Server l"eft a spot for them".. bumping everything up a page or two?


The Last jump I saw was to page 32 from page 28 I believe, I think we are on 33 now.

Blitzkreigen

Possible? thats the only logical explanation I can come up with, because you cant edit a post after a certain time right... so you cant add space later... it HAS to be the ANON posts... confirm?

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posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 12:16 PM
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nope, the posts I noticed were definitely member posts.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 12:21 PM
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ok, the one thing i dont get is how can people have memories of someone dying and yet they are still alive


do you realize how freaky that would be for said person to have that memory too

and if they dont have that memory than it never happened, so why do you have memories of that happening?

i think alot of this thread is just over analyzing and now minds are playing tricks on people

granted i understand that strange things can happen and thats fine

but the whole that guy was dead and now not to me is just way too much

if timeline was changed, so would your memories

so many people would be coming forward now about this stuff on news and talk shows and not just here

im not trying to flame this thread

im just not seeing the whole dead/alive thing about it



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Mandela is a commie scumbag who has turned the most industrious and beautiful country on the African continent into a seathing cesspool of murder and mayhem.

The Globalists wanted to turn the country back over to scum like Mandela in the furtherance of their plans to institute their New World Order.

Why do people like you play into the hands of those who are destroying us?!?


Just curious how that off-topic, useless post got thru.

Like mine I suppose.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 12:34 PM
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This is actually not very related but I think it kind of goes along with the new world order theory www.youtube.com...

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posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 07:20 PM
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*bump*

Just wanted to say something I have neglected to mention. A day or so before I noticed anything my dog kept acting like a total loon! She would run into the bathroom and hide there or even try to sleep all day. She has just now stopped today and things look normal to me and I can sleep but I still don't feel right.

Also people in earlier threads spoke of the color spectrum and seeing 10+ layers of clouds they had never seen before. I've had this the whole time but it's gone now I only see 1 or 2 layers. Also I notice I can't look anywhere near the direction of the sun it's far to bright.



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