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posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Tadarida
This is a fantastic thread - thank you to everyone who is posting here.

Here is what I have experienced:

...By saying the light outside is "wrong", I mean... the light is more pale, more white or blue than yellow, like things are brighter or overlit. It wasn't like this even 15 years ago. I am 41. When I was in my early 20's I had a job where I worked outside for 4 years, so I was hyper aware of the day passing and the light. It was different then.

In the past couple of years I have felt slightly dizzy and light headed, tired all the time, pressure on the top of my head, .. and then I am fine. I even went to the dr. about this, and had blood work done twice... I am perfectly fine.

...

I would like to pose this question:
Does anyone remember friends or family that have died and come back? We keep talking about celebrities or publicly known personalities... what about people we actually know? It's less "proveable" I guess, but I am curious. We are so bombarded by media, that thinking you saw an obituary about someone is an understandable mistake... that's what the skeptics would say anyway.


You are correct. The light is very different now. It is more white and bluish as you noted.

I think that the reason for the preponderance of famous people being alive or dead is due to the "predominance effect" that I posted earlier in the thread. I'll have to check to see if it is still there.... it may have changed.

Here's the short version of the predominance effect:

When a world-line collapses into another world-line there are discepencies, such as a person who is dead in one world-line may be alive in the other world-line. If there are more people who remember a particular person being dead the result is when the world-line collapse is complete that person will still be dead. Conversely if there are more people who remember the person being alive then the person will be alive. The prior history of each world-line may also have an effect on this outcome.

-Euclid




posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by sickofwar
So its not just me miss reading the posts they are changing right, the number of pages keeps fluctuating up and down.


Yes, I noticed it only yesterday. There are post on the first page of this thread that I know were not there when the thread started.

-Euclid



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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It may not be apparent at the moment but there is a solution. We need to research more.

-Euclid


I'm not convinced there is anything that can or will be done. I'm also not convinced people that can sense these things are part of any solution. That is a positive thought, though, which can't be faulted.

Maybe this is the threads of our world showing it's tattered edges before it implodes all time lines and reinitializes our world for another go round with another set of souls?

Maybe it is the scientists/black ops playing with tech they don't full understand or know how to control?

Our reality seems to be glitching and people are noticing......I know I'm going to be paying close attention from here on out!



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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I was sure the Cern LHC was not in use at this moment in time, correct me if Im wrong, but this release titled "access information" on their site at hcc.web.cern.ch... seems to be telling me that its already fired up???? "We have already moved from the assembly and construction phase to the operation of LHC. We are presently commissioning the LHC sectors one by one as they are cooled down. The access control system is active and access is regulated from the CCC. Under these conditions, opening the doors by pulling the green emergency handle in a non-emergency situation is a professional fault since it bypasses the normal procedure. Apart from exposing you and your co-workers to possible hazards, it takes several hours to re-establish correct access conditions once the interlock chain has been broken.

Lyn Evans, LHC Project Leader

Information on how to proceed is available at every access point. In case of doubt call the CCC at 77600.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:26 PM
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would you believe you might have been living a parallel life...in a world that was just like this one....and then one day you fell asleep after a hard day of work....when you woke....you found yourself in your room...but you knew something was wrong...and you lived your life....unsure of this missing thing....and you began to the question the things...whose true form is invisible...a life with no ending...because there are no hard answers...even answers we can accept...we can only hope...that one day the feeling goes away.


have you ever had a day like that??

happens to me...all the time...feel the shifting of the universes...aware of the changes....its a strange life...but I live it.

all I know is that

IAMHEREIAMNOWANDIAMDOINGTHEBESTICAN

period

Bearer of my Legacy...Light The Darkness.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:27 PM
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It is technology that goes from place to place around the world and it got slightly out of hand in my city its like riding up and down in an elevator to a different reality most peoples memories are erased after these events but a few remember the day where our papers started off with stories on Iraqi freedom fighters then changed later.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by GreenRobot

...I'm also not convinced people that can sense these things are part of any solution. That is a positive thought, though, which can't be faulted.


Please explain this reasoning.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:35 PM
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I seem to remember that the LHC cooldown phases were supposed to begin on the 15 JUL 08. I'm pretty good at keeping track of these dates so I am definately more confused now.

-Euclid


Originally posted by captiva
I was sure the Cern LHC was not in use at this moment in time, correct me if Im wrong, but this release titled "access information" on their site at hcc.web.cern.ch... seems to be telling me that its already fired up???? "We have already moved from the assembly and construction phase to the operation of LHC. We are presently commissioning the LHC sectors one by one as they are cooled down. The access control system is active and access is regulated from the CCC. Under these conditions, opening the doors by pulling the green emergency handle in a non-emergency situation is a professional fault since it bypasses the normal procedure. Apart from exposing you and your co-workers to possible hazards, it takes several hours to re-establish correct access conditions once the interlock chain has been broken.

Lyn Evans, LHC Project Leader

Information on how to proceed is available at every access point. In case of doubt call the CCC at 77600.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:39 PM
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[edit on 10-7-2008 by Page 43]



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp
I just asked my girlfriend today and she seems to rememeber Nelson Mandella having died as well and that it was even in a biographical film. She pays very close attention to history, by the way. Creepy.

Perhaps this is how the dead rise during the rapture? Not that I'm really into that stuff.


'Goose bumps 'maybe something in that.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by GreenRobot

I'm not convinced there is anything that can or will be done. I'm also not convinced people that can sense these things are part of any solution. That is a positive thought, though, which can't be faulted.
...
Our reality seems to be glitching and people are noticing......I know I'm going to be paying close attention from here on out!



There is always a solution to a problem. But the LHC is only causing a localized disturbance as I conditionally noted in a previous post. There is a larger issue that you are correct in stating cannot be resolved.

-Euclid

[edit on 10-7-2008 by euclid]



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 05:58 PM
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Ok Ill spill the beans whether you believe me or not technology in the hands of the elites is causing this there is more than one system,there is obviously competition between systems when these hit the deck in my city about 4 years ago all hell broke loose,the capabilities of these systems are beyond imagination as I said at 5.00am I read the paper by 10.00am they had all changed,there is a blue tinge or filter look when this is about and you can get up and down elevator ride sensations, the clincher for me was going to the shops at 6.00am to get bread to a brand new shopping centre I couldn't find my shop I came back and my father went up and got the bread,the shopping centre I visited now exists it was built three years AFTER this experience in 2004.Most peoples memories are erased my mother cannot remember discussing the Iraqi freedom fighter stories in the paper with me that morning at 7.00am so welcome to video game earth where the boys with the consoles can get it wrong.

Believe me or not I don't care but the above is the truth.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 06:06 PM
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This thread has become extremely intriguing. I think it deserves a mention on the next ATS Mix


Seriously though, it's not just the posters here (and there have been some double-posts, I can tell by writing styles), but it's for the pure fact that other people, who do not frequent this board agree...something is wrong. I don't think it's necessarily everything that we have been claiming. I think it's even more prevalent on a subconscious level. That's the tendency I am seeing. You can just "feel" it.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
reply to post by euclid
 

Ok Ill spill the beans whether you believe me or not technology in the hands of the elites is causing this there is more than one system,there is obviously competition between systems when these hit the deck in my city about 4 years ago all hell broke loose,the capabilities of these systems are beyond imagination as I said at 5.00am I read the paper by 10.00am they had all changed,there is a blue tinge or filter look when this is about and you can get up and down elevator ride sensations, the clincher for me was going to the shops at 6.00am to get bread to a brand new shopping centre I couldn't find my shop I came back and my father went up and got the bread,the shopping centre I visited now exists it was built three years AFTER this experience in 2004.Most peoples memories are erased my mother cannot remember discussing the Iraqi freedom fighter stories in the paper with me that morning at 7.00am so welcome to video game earth where the boys with the consoles can get it wrong.

Believe me or not I don't care but the above is the truth.


OK, I don't believe your assumption concerning the elites possession of whatever "system" it is you are referring too.

-Euclid



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 06:10 PM
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I don't want to "hope the feeling goes away"; I want to know what's causing the feeling and have some control over my feelings.

Yes, I have considered (briefly) that there is such a thing as parallel lives/dimensions, etc. and that "I" may have jumped the track and be in the "wrong" one but it leaves too many unanswered questions. Plus, I don't think it's mathematically possible/probable (like re-incarnation).

Also, I didn't understand your previous reference to a stone that split the river in two.

So, to recap, several people from various parts of the globe are experiencing alternate perceptions of their remembered realities including:

1) bodily symptoms such as "vibrating", "humming", pressure/weight in head.
2) astronomical anomalies such as sun/moon transits, sharpness in color or intensity of clouds/sky/sunlight.
3) time distortions such as time on clocks being earlier than the last time you looked at them, dejavu (reliving previous moments in time), etc.
4) altered historical memories such as previous deaths occuring more than once or not at all.

There was also a thread not too long ago about items disappearing/reappearing in people's homes or at work. Could it be related?

Assuming there is no conspiracy from aliens, corrupt politicians, NWO elitists, secret societies, disembodied spirits or anything else we can't conclusively pinpoint, what COULD be the scientific, earth-based cause of such disparate but shared phenomena?

I'm not a physicist but wouldn't gravitational anomalies account for at least some of these happenings? What would have to happen TO gravity to cause these effects?



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by The time lord
Also I find the UK is wobbling slightly, no one is detecting it but I do feel minor ground wobbles but very slight. But this gravity wave thing feels odd like a magnet just passed my head, wonder if the increased UFO siting in my area have anything to do with it, not only my area but everywhere in the UK.

[edit on 10-7-2008 by The time lord]


I've felt that, it happened last night. It's like there's going to be an earth tremor and it does'nt come, just a wobble. Almost like being on a ship at sea. Perhaps we're setting sail!

Yesterday I was reading the posts about Jack Palance, I pressed to next page and it brought me back to the page I was on. I'm sure there was another page and when I re-read the page some of the posts were different.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 06:20 PM
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I know what happened in my city that day was either God vs Satan(unlikely)or as a result of competing advanced technological systems I time travelled sir whilst my city was in chaos for about a two hour period.

My tai chi instructor remembers going to the 'exhibition' that day but everybody elses memory is a blank.

So time travel and memory erasure would seem to be pretty advanced in so far as im concerned plus the ability to change 1000,000 newspapers and take them out of circulation.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 06:26 PM
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A month or so ago, I was at my (now ex) boyfriend's house, and he was stroking my back, and he said "you're vibrating" I stood up, walked around, and sat back down, and I was still vibrating. I didn't feel anything at all. We shrugged it off, then the same thing happened a couple of days later, while we were sat in the park, again, I didn't notice it.

I just put it down to vibrations from the London Underground, but, HE wasn't vibrating (not that I could tell) and You can FEEL the vibration of the earth if you're in London, above a tube line, and you can feel and hear the surrounding things vibrate.

I'd like to think that it was some kind of "experience" but, deep down, I think it might be something more mundane.



posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 06:39 PM
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I don't know if some of you saw my previous post as this thread is getting very long and I know that some people will skip pages; so I am reposting these as they may answer some questions that newcomers to this thread are repeating from earlier posts. It may help answer some questions.

anglodemonicmatrix, I don't doubt you encountered a world-line collapse. It doesn't require advanced secret technologies to make that occur. The research that I have done and that others I know have done indicates a natural phenomena to be the root-cause of the issue.

whitewave, I hope these answer your questions.

-Euclid


Originally posted by euclid
This is a little model of the MWI that is slightly modified to my own interpretation. I'm at work now and don't have my 3D modelling software here so it isn't a great representation but is close enough.

In the MWI they posit that time branches like a tree or river and that causes "new" world-lines to be created. I don't think that is how it really works. At the layer of reality below the quantum there is no time as we know it from our everyday phenomenal existence. I posit that the multi-verse is extant with multiple world-lines. No need for branching. Our conscious awareness percieves one world-line at a time yet because we are a waveform we are intimately entangled to the other world-lines. So we have dreams that we die by falling off a cliff and then we wake up in a cold sweat and think, "gosh, I just died in that dream by falling off a cliff!"; perhaps you did and you woke up in this world-line. The "deja vu" that other people experience is just that person on another world-line. In quantum mechanics each world-line can move faster or slower than adjacent world-lines. The you in an adjacent world-line has already cooked an asian beef-broccoli meal and then in this world-line you finally get around to it. And because at a lower layer of reality you are unconsciously tied to the you in the faster moving world-line your unconscious awareness "remembers" that "you" have done this before. With the divergence being that the person who didn't remember it wasn't there in the other world-line.





posted on Jul, 10 2008 @ 06:42 PM
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Context is everything. There is, and has been for some time now, an issue with what some are calling "time-lines". I prefer to use world-line instead as it is a term that is used in the Everett-Wheeler-Dewitt "Many Worlds Interpretation". Please note that I do not embrace in totality any current quantum mechanical theory; many of the current theories have "pieces" of the truth but none of them to date have the complete understanding. And I do not pretend that I do either. I am a Generalist. I look for patterns and attempt to fit together disparate pieces of information to discover the Nature of things. I've looked at the various theories and taken bits here and there and formulated what I believe is going on to cause the phenomena that we are experiencing. It does not require spiritual awakening or the invocation of gods, devils, angels or demons.

A description of the problem is apropos. As I said context is everything when analyzing a set of data and I have listed below the various phenomena that are implicitly associated with the current problem-set. I have gathered a lot of data over the years concerning each of these predominant and closely related issues, copyrights prevent me from publishing the data "in toto" on the internet and due to the limited amount of time left it would be impossible for me to aggregate the data into a format for general consumption; the following will have to suffice.

Symptoms of the problem:
Physical and psychological disorientation (Strange feelings, tiredness, aloofness, lethargy, melancholia, etc)
Chronological disorientation (Time speeding up or slowing down)
Astronomical dislocations (Celestial bodies apparently not in their correct positions at certain times, e.g. - Sun/Moon; major variations in the transits of the Sun & Moon)
Solar anomalies (Sun brightness changes, huge record X class flares during a solar minimum, scientist noting concern that has been NO sunspot activity of any significance in the past few months)
Climate anomalies (All planets in solar system experiencing global warming
Geological changes (Dramatic modification in Earths climate: north pole ice melt, floods, earthquakes, tsunami, ice melt on Mars, the furthest planets from the sun experiencing large increases in barometric and temperatures, etc)
Minor Temporal modifications (Small scale changes to tangible media that do not correlate to historical memories, i.e. - text in books/magazines/movies/music modified)
Major Temporal modifications (Large scale changes to tangible media that do not correlate to historical memories, e.g. - People who died are alive again)

When conducting data analysis it is always helpful to look at all the probable causes to discover the "root cause" of the problem. Using deductive logic I have already arrived at what "is" the cause but I will list only a few of the postulates that I looked at during this phase of the analysis.

Postulates that could cause all of the above phenomena to occur simultaneously:

1. LHC
2. Carbon gas emissions
3. Galactic plane
4. Spiritual development of human species
5. End Times (ala the book of Revelations)

1. The LHC could not be the root cause of the issue. The reason it can't be is that it does not possess the necessary energy to affect the entire solar system or the galaxy. It could have an effect on the localized matter and time. It may have tangential effects that are synergistic with the root cause of the problem; so I do not rule it out completely but it is not the "root cause".

2. Carbon gas emissions could not be the root cause though they may play a tangential role in some small percentage of local climate change. It does not account for the climate change in the Sol System of planets that are uninhabited by humans and therefore cannot be the "root cause".

3. The galactic plane could be the root cause. The "galactic plane" is an astrophysical/astronomical term to describe a huge gravitational plane that emanates from the center of our Milky Way galaxy. At the center of our galaxy is a super-massive blackhole. It is what keeps our galaxy from flying apart. When blackhole becomes as large as the ones that usually inhabit the center of a spiral galaxy they flatten-out into a (relatively) thin toroidal plane; if you imagine a flattened doughnut you will have a good idea of what it would look like if you could see it. This flattened out gravitational torus extends from the center of the blackholes event horizon and far beyond the physical edges of our galaxy. The blackhole spins and it has a rotation of axis and our galaxy spins on an axis of rotation with it; the matter in the galaxy whirling around with it. The galaxy has a wobble in its rotation just as the earth has a wobble in its axis of rotation. The wobble causes our part of the spiral galaxy to transit through the gravitational field of the flattened-out blackhole; which astrophysicists call the "galactic plane". Now think about that for a moment. What does a blackhole do? It warps the space-time in its immediate vicinity. It creates friction around its rotational field. This will without a doubt cause space-time anomalies as we approach it. The friction caused by these warps will cause the solar system to heat up and cause the Sun to change in brightness. Because it is a gravitational field it will cause discrepancies in the transit of local celestial bodies. It will definitely cause large scale climate and geological changes on earth and other planets in the Sol system. It may cause chronological disorientation as we all know that strong EM fields interact with the ferro-magnetic structure of the human brain. Blackholes are theorized to effect time as they effect space; thus world-lines collapsing, or merging, together is a very real possibility which would account for the major and minor temporal modifications that we all have experienced.

4. The spiritual development of the human species cannot be the root cause of the problem under investigation because it does not provide any tangible interactions with the phenomenal-temporal reality that we see. Spirituality by its very nature is intangible. I do not discount that the EM and graviational influences will cause what some have experienced as "awakenings, enlightenment, epiphanies, etc". But these experiences are tangential and are symptoms of the interactions of processes that are in no way spiritual.

5. The End Times. Well. Historical records indicate that this cycle was a well known cycle that unfortunately was mangled through the conduit of time; beginning as fact, morphing into a distant recollection, then into myth, then into legend and finally what we have now.... The Christian mythos contained in Revelations is a recounting and modification of much earlier data, particularly Sumerian. But even that accounting is of an older recollection. It should be noted that many civilizations recount in their historical records the following:

a. The moon stood still and set where it rose (meso-american legends as well as other central and south american legends)
b. There was a great flood (the bible, the americas)
c. A great civilization sank under the seas (plato's reference to Atlantis, middle eastern legends and history, meso-american legends, central &south american legends)
d. And a lot of others out there and you can find more correlation just by searching the web

Preliminary Summary

I find that the postulates 3 and 5 corroborate with each other. Though I do not inherently believe the Biblical account as a judgment from God I do believe it was originally a recounting of the last time our planet passed through the galactic plane and it was reworked to support the geopolitical orthodoxy of the church during the era it was re-written. There is nothing spiritual about this although some people will have epiphanies and "enlightened" states due to the EM and gravitational fields involved. Only postulate 3 can explain all the phenomena that people have noted in this thread and other threads.

-Euclid



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