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Who is to Blame for the Sorry State of the USA?

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posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 03:54 PM
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They can act shocked in movies too! even the actor who played the president in the movie deep impact, he was shocked too. asteroid coming ya know! The movies of course as I'm coming to my point, isn't real, doesn't mean to say that you can't act in shock?

Bush isn't shocked that 650,000 are dead in Iraq, that crap debunked of how honest and innocent that bratt bush is... wake up

Just saying like, people can act and lie.




posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 03:57 PM
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Listen folks... I understand we have some issues here in the US but they are nothing like what they have going on in the UK. Those people running things over there are krazy as hell. Just read the below article. Babies are racist for saying yuk?

It really is starting to look like we need a V over there...

Anyway, read this article and be afraid... Be very afraid...
www.breitbart.com...



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Perplexed
Listen folks... I understand we have some issues here in the US but they are nothing like what they have going on in the UK. Those people running things over there are krazy as hell. Just read the below article. Babies are racist for saying yuk?

It really is starting to look like we need a V over there...

Anyway, read this article and be afraid... Be very afraid...
www.breitbart.com...


Another thing is what the nation does. This post is classic!! deter attention from whats the issue is. BLAME somebody else. Let's deal with topic on hand.

If you want to deal with your matter create a thread about it, even elaborate if you want too, but doing what your doing is quite stupid tbh here.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:31 PM
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Thank you.

I am saddened to see the demise of a great country. I am also appaled to see that we are heading towards a Police-State thanks to the proposed Plan Mexico which Bushco is pushing along with $400 million dollars for arms to start the massacre.

I feel saddened for Canada, the US and Mexico.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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Another thing is what the nation does. This post is classic!! deter attention from whats the issue is. BLAME somebody else. Let's deal with topic on hand.

If you want to deal with your matter create a thread about it, even elaborate if you want too, but doing what your doing is quite stupid tbh here.


Agreed!

Love your signature, too.


[edit on 7/7/2008 by ignaciobeltran]



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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I had completely forgot about the Federal Reserve which is a private bank.



Same goes for the IRS.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
America's current economic woes are nothing compared to what we have endured in our history and probably in my lifetime.


Dear Grady, you are older than I, and have seen and endured more than I. Can you tell me when the domestic food prices rose at the currently observed rates, historically?


We will adapt.


Sorry but that sounds like a direct quote from the Borg, of Star Trek fame.


Markets will correct.


Truism.


Our standards of living will become more realistic and we will move forward.


And what exactly is "more realistic", Sir? As you may know, while the productivity of American workers has significantly improved in the past 15 years (correct me if I'm wrong), the real terms income stayed flat? Do you see anything wrong with this picture? If realism according to you, Sir, means it's OK for corporate scum to suck up the extra product and it's OK for the middle or working class to move downward, I surely protest such false and concocted reality. If you are asking us to accept the reality of illegal immigration and other forms of farming out the workforce, this is equally incomprehensible.


America is affected by the same forces that affect every other country in the world.


Being the largest economy in the world, this can hardly be true.


What makes us different is that we have a splendid Constitution and system of government.


I like our Constitution very much, however the system of Govt can be great in theory and a mockery in practice, just look at the Bush's regime.


Our people historically have been strong of character, creative, adaptive, ingenious, and moral. The extent that these characteristics are still present will have much influence on how we overcome the current economic malaise.


As your financial advisor might have told you, price history does not guarantee future returns. When I see what sort of people get into the high offices in this country, I can agree with "creative" bit but doubt the ingenuity. Did you forget "conformity"?


I, personally, have hope for America, although I do know that a large portion of our population has little moral fiber


Wait a sec, just a couple of paragraphs above you claimed that people are by and large moral? You seem to contradict yourself.


A downturn is one area can create new opportunities in other areas of the economy.


Can you give just one example of that?



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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What? What I am doing is stupid about? Ok, so we have it bad in this country but it could be worse is the message. What? You only want people that agree with your view of things here or the doom and gloom of the USA and how bad the people are in this country?



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Perplexed
reply to post by mind is the universe
 


What? What I am doing is stupid about? Ok, so we have it bad in this country but it could be worse is the message. What? You only want people that agree with your view of things here or the doom and gloom of the USA and how bad the people are in this country?



No I don't agree with YOU changing the subject. if you have the power to create the subject of your choice onto a thread to discuss whatever. your just trying to distract attention from something THAT needs to be dealth with. There is only one way to solve this problem in america and that is awareness. Your doing something really absurd and childish right now. so stop it already.

There is bad pattern in America. Which has gone on since the second world war. It has gotten from bad to worse. America is not only creating chaos but attracting chaos. Your NOT helping the situation

Therefore what your doing is stupid.

[edit on 7-7-2008 by mind is the universe]



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 04:57 PM
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"Who is to Blame for the Sorry State of the USA?"


Well I reckon it was the Americans...makes sense ..no other countries vote for your present government !!

So..its the Americans fault!!



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by Perplexed
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No I don't agree with YOU changing the subject. if you have the power to create the subject of your choice onto a thread to discuss whatever. your just trying to distract attention from something THAT needs to be dealth with. There is only one way to solve this problem in america and that is awareness. Your doing something really absurd and childish right now. so stop it already.

There is bad pattern in America. Which has gone on since the second world war. It has gotten from bad to worse. America is not only creating chaos but attracting chaos. Your NOT helping the situation

Therefore what your doing is stupid.
[edit on 7-7-2008 by mind is the universe]


Ok, so let me get this straight... Because I mention that things may not be as bad in American as you would LIKE them to be you say what I am doing is stupid? What I did was give an example of how out of whack things can really get here but are not at this point. That example was a story from the UK. I did not change the subject at hand. I just gave an example of how things could go from bad to worse.

If you would like to have your narrow view and discuss things the way you want them discussed then by all means post a new thread outlining your requirements for said discussion. Baring that, I would say you are not helping the situation here in America and being very stupid by stifling differing perspectives on the current state of affairs in our country.

My view is it can get much worse so try to look on the bright side as you scream the sky is falling... Sheesh...



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by mind is the universe
Instead of blaming, which is no use, take control of you. People follow order naturally. People instinctively want to follow a good pattern.

The government of America is a evil society, which goals are to set out and only make paterns that benifet themselves the elites, bankers, riches and the demons among them.

Patriotic crap is another joke in that country. They say in the bible that taking pride of oneself or making a martyer out of yourself breaks the commandments. You could apply that to America, since America is majorly a Chrisitan country RIGHT?!. Total hypocrisy and that's a blatant fact. Patriotism and prideness in the level that is has evolved through and direction has not done any good. To much pride creates ignoance and arrogance. This is what patriotism has done to that country. Its absurd.

Therefore America is sing song absurd circus to me. Now I'm just pointing this out regardless of being religious or not. Even worse why be patriotic about a country where the behaviour they allow is unnacceptable to begin with. The Policy that is used in America, why be patriotic of a policy that is not something be dang proud about. Why be patriotic about a country when they are always running into war and chaos.


This patriotic crap is old. Start by taking responsiblity for yourself, start by tearing up that ego constitional jargon. Give the power back to the people. Give people thier identity back. Give people to seek wisdom in themselves, and stop this brainwashing crap thats in the constitution or what the media says.


Good post!

I mean to blame as in locating where the responsability for this mess lays.

What I would like to know is what is the solution or solutions to this mess.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by shuck
"Who is to Blame for the Sorry State of the USA?"
Well I reckon it was the Americans...makes sense ..no other countries vote for your present government !!
So..its the Americans fault!!


No doubt about it but we are still the best country on earth and I suspect the USA will continue to be a great country for a long time to come. I know some here don't agree with that and would like us all to believe that the USA is so screwed up its beyond repair... That we are a police state and have no freedoms... Its a bunch of malarkey if you ask me but that is my opinion...

We have been through rough patches before and we will get through this one while the rest of the world blames us for everything from Global Warming to people starving in Africa to the current Oil crisis.

It may get really bad here... Great, Great Depression bad but in the end we will still be here and so will the rest of the world and the cycle of blame will start again.

Again, there are far worse places to live. If we have to live through another Great Depression I would rather be here than some country that tells us our babies are racist because they don't like the food...

If you are prepared for a Great Depression you can have a better perspective on things. Not preparing will have a demoralizing effect and you may be angry all the time at everyone.. You know the type... Calling people stupid and ignorant because they don't agree with you... If the USA was full of people like that it would be a bad country to live in.


[edit on 01/01/2008 by Perplexed]



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Perplexed


No doubt about it but we are still the best country on earth and I suspect the USA will continue to be a great country for a long time to come. I know some here don't agree with that and would like us all to believe that the USA is so screwed up its beyond repair... That we are a police state and have no freedoms... Its a bunch of malarkey if you ask me but that is my opinion...

We have been through rough patches before and we will get through this one while the rest of the world blames us for everything from Global Warming to people starving in Africa to the current Oil crisis.



With a delusional arrogant attitude I'm not at all surprised your in a mess! You certainly will not solve anything nor fix anything nor come to a single solution to the chaos America is now in right now. Start taking responsibily for your actions and your behaviour. its your ignorance the world has an issue with and below is an example.

when you titled America the best nation on earth. Classic crap.

Back to you. you may need a shovel btw



[edit on 7-7-2008 by mind is the universe]



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by Perplexed



With a delusional arrogant attitude i'm not surprised your in a mess! You certainly not solve anything nor fix anything nor come to a solution,

when you titled America the best nation on earth. Classic crap.

back to you.


Oh, that was a lovely reply. Thank’s for that….

Ok, so you are not American then? I can see where the anger comes from.. Because someone has optimism about the United States of America you flame, call names and vilify... You are a prime example of what I am talking about. You are on the outside looking in and you are envious of our success.

Like I said as bad as it will get here if it does it will be 10 times worse where you are. How does your country measure up to the United States of America? What is your current situation that has you so confident that you will escape any hardships or your country is that much better? If we fall you fall 10 times harder pal...

The United States of American is the best nation on earth today. We may have idiot leaders but times do change and guess what? I celebrated the 4th of July with my family. I drove to work today as I will tomorrow and I will take care of my family as I always do. That's how the problems in the United States of America get fixed. We actually believe in family as opposed to some other countries I won't mention. If I do I am changing the subject right?

Calling people names and screaming the sky is falling is not the direction I would take but hey... If that’s your gig more power to you... This is the United States of America and how we solve our problems will be very different on how your country solves yours when the time comes.

Good luck to you though.. Be sure to keep your pantry stocked because people in the United States of America are. That's how we get through the rough times. How do you do it in your country? Are all people like you there?


[edit on 01/01/2008 by Perplexed]



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:45 PM
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in my opinion all our problems stem from woodrow wilson taking us off the gold standard.Our government installed the central bank and this gave them the ability to print money with no backing or fiat money.The federal reserve is what caused the great depression of the twentys.There would have been no Korea,Vietnam,or Iraq wars if the fed hadn't been able to print money without gold to back it.It would have been unaffordable.The fed over the years have printed so much of this fiat money that the dollar is becoming more worthless every day.Our government could not have grown like it has over the years if not for the feds ability to print money backed by nothing.The worst is yet to come however.Bush in his zeal to go to war has sold,I believe I read someplace,over a trillion dollars to china.If china dumps those dollars on the market we drop like a stone.This is nothing but repeat history.Rome fell because they could not afford thier empire,soviet russia fell for the same reason.The founding fathers knew fiat money would fail due to thier expierence with the continental,the money we started with.That was why they made currency backed by gold and put it into our constitution.
As far as our leaders pulling us out of the mess they can't and have no intention of trying very hard.Neither McCain nor Obama are talking about ending the american empire(700 military bases in 130 countrys)and the empire will do for us what it did for rome and the soviet union.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 06:32 PM
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Who is to blame?

That's simple; it's the citizenry itself. Collectively too lazy to change anything.

[edit on 7/7/2008 by prototism]



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 06:44 PM
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George W. Bush
'nuff said.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 07:26 PM
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To answer your question, without a lot of political opinion,economical reasoning,or international excuses, I'll just say that,"We the People" are to blame for the sorry state of the USA. We have allow the goverment to get out of our hands. It is now owned by the elite with corporate afilliations. We the people, have bought into the lifestyle and not into life. We the people, have allowed ourselves to be harnessed to the idea that material .possesionns somehow make us better people,and drag that idea behind a carrot on a stick. We the people, have come to believe that we deserve all that we want and that it is our right. Because ,We the People are being played like a fine violin. I love my country for the ideals that it was founded upon,not what it has become. We the People,need to stop and take account of ourselves.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 07:31 PM
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I am your neighbor in Mexicali. See you here when you come over to buy gas.



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