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posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 10:49 AM
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great post 'data's-head.' really liked the youtube vid.

however,

A.) NASA isn't hiding moon artifact truth from the populace because they were built by 'aliens.' they're hiding something weirder......

......

B.) humans have been on the moon before. Paleolithic humans. i think that would be far more difficult for people to comprehend. because, after all, right now is suppose to be the pinnacle of human achievement, and those 'stone age' blokes hardly did anything. (of course back in those days they had 'real magick' so going to moon wasn't that big a deal. maybe they even went to mars too?)




posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 12:03 PM
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i always thought nasa was lying about thier operations. i just have a question why cant i see any of these structures or at the very least a big pyramid through a telescope? maybe my own personal scope isnt very good but someone has to have a better one than i?



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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hey guys, great thread although it feels a bit dated in what is being brought up, but it's still a really interesting area of research that still holds much to be discovered. I've read hoaglands book and seen some of his lectures. He's got some REALLY really good points, and I really like the occult slant on it all. ...but.... some of the images he references I have a real problem with. If you compare the images hoagland uses in his books to the originals there are some major differences.

Anyway, I'm at work so i can't find the pics I want to put up, but tomorrow i'll be able to. In the mean time, you should try and find the image he uses to describe a 'pyramid' on the moon, once you've found them and you feel your mind expanding at the possibilities, take a look at the ORIGINAL's on the NASA site, I think you'll be disappointed.

anyway, gotta go home now to my dial up internet...grrrrr..... I'll try and get the pics up there tommorow


inifinite8 posted this great thread a while back too:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 01:44 PM
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isn't great how all of the image is very blurry but the object in question is very detailed. This is obviously a doctored picture and people are just seeing what they want to.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 02:05 PM
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Does anyone have compelling evidence that lends credence to any of the claims made in this topic? Some grainy and doctored photos on a shady website don't count...

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 02:27 PM
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The picture of the pyramid is one of the more convincing photographs of anything on the moon I have ever seen. I read and research a lot in regards to moon anomolies and that is #1 in my mind for being the most interesting. Check for yourself , it's on an official nasa site.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 05:12 PM
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Well there's that airbrushed photo from the moon that was said to have shown a discarded burger wrapper lying in the middle of a crater along with an empty cup made of an unknown paper-like substance. I think Armstrong thought his colleague had tossed it until he saw a picture on the cup of a smiling being with three eyestalks.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 08:32 PM
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ok since you need to see some excellent photo's of anomaly's on the moon...

check this site out..........


www.thelivingmoon.com...
The Enigmas on the Moon - Menu Page



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 08:37 PM
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thanks for your post,


Anyway, I'm at work so i can't find the pics I want to put up, but tomorrow i'll be able to. In the mean time, you should try and find the image he uses to describe a 'pyramid' on the moon, once you've found them and you feel your mind expanding at the possibilities, take a look at the ORIGINAL's on the NASA site, I think you'll be disappointed.


well we are looking forward to seeing the pics you want to post ?

i would like you or someone to post a link that directly shows this photo of the pyramid on the NASA website. i am sure there is a good reason they want you to be dissapointed...



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by TheDarkHorse

Originally posted by gottago
Just to recalibrate a bit, NASA losing the original recordings of Apollo 11 on the moon is like the National Archives announcing they'd lost the original Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Pure nonsense.

According to Ken Johnston, former LRL manager of NASA’s photographic lunar archive in the early 1970’s, he gave a first-hand account of how he was specifically instructed by his NASA managers toward the end of the Apollo Program to destroy unique Apollo records.

I have read Dark Mission and Hoagland and Bara make a compelling argument that NASA has indeed intentionally destroyed Lunar data.

[edit on 6-7-2008 by TheDarkHorse]



great post and thanks for the link to that excellent reply by Ken Johnston.

from his story in that blog he sure has lived an exciting life and i am glad to see him reveal this information. his connection with NASA and his credentials make it easy to believe what he is saying.

this is VERY strong evidence that NASA is hiding information !!!

there are other ex- NASA employee whistle blowers with similar story's and i am going to have a closer look at all of them.

i am going to buy the Dark Mission book this weekend if i can find it. can't wait to read it....thanks again



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by grifta
Link to Apollo 11 landing site from Kaguya probe
Has anyone been checking out the JAXA site for the Kaguya Japanese lunar probe, there are new images on there, apparently some in high def?
Link to the whole gallery


thanks for your post,

and thanks for the update but i am having a hard time navigating the site for some reason...lol

i think we all are waiting for these photo's and i hope they are not tampered with but i wouldn't be surprised for some reason.



posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 09:44 PM
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thanks for the compliment,


NASA isn't hiding moon artifact truth from the populace because they were built by 'aliens.' they're hiding something weirder......


for some reason i agree with you ...lol

with all the evidence of past civilizations on earth such as artifacts (ooparts) found in rocks and in coal mines , it makes you wonder what the heck is really going on.

i remember reading about how the goverment would destroy archaeological digg sites because they wanted to suppress the artifacts that were being discovered and it goes right along with the cover up of Moon artifacts imo.

good to think about for sure.

oh and here is a couple weird photo's of a ufo on the Moon... 2nd one reportedly taken by Neil Armstrong...









[edit on 7-7-2008 by easynow]



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 02:38 AM
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Thanks for sharing these images,


The first image is a part of a "series" of three ones:

AS14-70-9835


AS14-70-9836


AS14-70-9837


Full magazine 70
www.lpi.usra.edu...

Hi res available on Keith Laney's website:

AS14-70-9835
www.keithlaney.net...

AS14-70-9836
www.keithlaney.net...

AS14-70-9837
www.keithlaney.net...


Honestly, all i would say about it is that looks to be some kind of
light casted to the surface (features are clearly visible beyond the
light): the question is "by what"?



The photo of the "cigar-shaped" UFO, claimed to have been taken by Armstrong, was actually been during Apollo 16 mission: (some people claim that was taken during apollo 11 mission): its number is AS16-120-19238;
www.lpi.usra.edu...



its description reads:
MASS SPECTROMETER; EVA FLOODLIGHT
when we have the luck to have a description, we should (first) compare
what the description reads with what we see: and what we see is consistent with the description:
basically, what we see is this:

and the shot was taken most likely from the window pointed by the arrow. A nice shot of the Eva Floodlight, in my humble opinion



This is not the first time that it is being mistaken for an UFO:
for example, it has happened also with this footage (screen capture):



Image above: Enhanced Apollo 16 image (left) compared with features of the EVA floodlight/boom from the perspective of a Command/Service Module window (right). Credit: NASA

As you can see, this last explanation, taken from the article UFO No Longer Unidentified adds even more details to the comparison, like the dual protruding elelments.

[edit on 8/7/2008 by internos]



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 02:45 AM
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I also add this animation made with

AS14-70-9835
AS14-70-9836
and
AS14-70-9837


so one can see the whole sequence without scrolling down.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 08:15 AM
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okay so alot of ppl have provided evidence that NASA is lying right? Well i guess the good question now is what are you gonna do about it? The only way to do something is take action like the person from penn suing over the Keckburg incident...granted she didnt get exactly what she wanted, but she did add attention to the subject and thats what we need more of...you can sit and gripe all you want, but thats all it will ever be



Good Day
Skept!cal



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 08:16 AM
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and Internos man...your genius never seems to amaze man! your a true gem at this site



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 08:34 AM
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conspiracy.. or just complete idiots ?? I went through your thread.. and decided that neither one fits your evidence, ( or lack of it ). I dont believe that nasa is covering anything up.. and I dont believe that they are idiots. I do believe that once the government is involved in anything ,, it becomes a beaurocratic mess, and they spend way to much money up there ,, instead of down here. I dont believe there are aliens on the moon.. or mars.. or there is any kind of ancient alien structures on either of em. Just mans unending desire to keep exploring where no man has been before. I believe that if they ever did find signs of alien life, here or anywhere else.. they would be the first to let everyone know.. and of course take all the credit for it.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by easynow
NASA is hiding the truth about UFO's/aliens from the public and i am going to present at least three examples that show a conspiracy to hide evidence or that they are complete idiots. you decide wich is the case.

#1

NASA admits to losing the original Apollo 11 film footage


NASA Is Stumped in Search For Videos of 1969 Moonwalk



About 36 years after the tapes went into storage, NASA was suddenly eager to have them. There was just one problem: The tapes were nowhere to be found.


www.washingtonpost.com...
The Saga Of the Lost Space Tapes - washingtonpost.com

There are hundreds of copies. What's your point?


There are folks who don't believe that man ever walked on the moon, and there are folks who believe that those astronauts not only walked but also saw -- UFOs. The source of belief for both camps is the same roll of film.

Could it be that the during the fake filming of the moon walking UFOs showed up offering an assistance here and there?


This option would prove both groups of lunatics (no pun inteded) right.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out if the claims that are stated in Dark Mission are true or not.

Yes, I've read the book and books similar to it. I think that NASA has covered up a lot of things on the moon. The thing that I can't get behind is, well. the Dark Mission book for one.

NASA killed JFK?
NASA is really run by Nazi's and they coincide launches and landings with Hitler's birthday.
Crystal cities and domes that cover entire moon craters?
DATA's head on the moon?

Come on now!

I love a good conspiracy as much as the next guy, but this book, in my opinion, brings up more opinion than fact. Also, as I have seen in responses to your original post, a lot of the pictures can be very easily explained away.

Cool post all the same.



posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by skept!cal
okay so alot of ppl have provided evidence that NASA is lying right?


NASA doesn't lie... they just don't tell you everything... You cannot sue someone fro not telling you something... which is why they have a strict policy to NEVER respond to ANY questions about anomalies EVER



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