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Originally posted by smokey101
This was my answer to the other thread about the kids being given detention, and i think it is relevant here as will in answer to this thread.
"There is no place in the entire world for any religion at all.
To all those who believe in a religion i ask this:-
When you are lying in a pool of your own blood with a knife in your chest because someone decied to rob you, where is your god then?
When your child dies of a torturous disease, dies in pain and sufferng, where is your god then?
When sickening acts of violence and slaughter are committed across the world to innocent people, where is your god then?
When you need food and shelter, when you need a cure for your childs illness, when the perpetrators of violence need stopping, where is your god then?
I'll tell you where, Nowhere.
But when you need a cure for your sick child, science and technology is there.
When you need you wounds healing, science and technology is there.
When the perpetrators of violence need stopping, people backed by science and technology are there.
So carry on teaching your religion and thanking a god for what we have while science continues to save lives.
When bad things happen, earthquakes, floods, tsunami, hurricanes, people say it was gods will.
When a poor defenseless child dies in agony they say it was gods will.
No it is just a logical fact that bad stuff happens for no damned reason sometimes.
There is no pattern to it, no mythical all powerfull thing behind the scenes controling it.
It is just the logical fact the bad stuff happens and there isn't a thing praying can do about, science on the other hand just might be able to if religious freaks stop filling kids minds with bull instead of with knowledge that may be of use to the world.
I say screw religion, becuase it is allready screwing us and our kids."
Originally posted by maria_stardust
reply to post by brickhouse32
Intelligent design is not a science. It is a philosophical view of science. The only one you are deceiving is yourself if you believe otherwise.
Originally posted by brickhouse32
Being the shunned ATS member I will keep it brief. You have alot of anger towards the idea of any God or religion because of all the tragedies on the earth perhaps I have help to reframe this idea.
May I propose that it is not God that is at fault for all the evil in the world but the devil. You may say that God allows it but wasn't it our choice in the beginning to do things our way instead of Gods way, so God allowed mankind to wander off the righteous path to pursue our own and then to see how bad it is without God running things. When Jesus came he spent most of his time healing people, bringing them back from the dead and the like, in fact when he would heal and some religious people would say "how can you heal someone on the Sabbath day", he would correct them by saying why can't people that have been bound and chained by the devil for all those years be released on the Sabbath day.
Everyone likes to blame God but God is the giver of life. Without him nothing that was made would have been made, he makes something out of nothing. I say praise God for the opportunity to live the life he has made for all of us to live, and I thank him for all the blessings he has given me even though I expect at some point to be homeless and to die in his name, PRAISE GOD!
Originally posted by 5thElement
I was born without belief. I was raised without it (but told of it's existence). I studied many of them as I did lots of other things. My mind is FREE to go wherever it wants to. Not locked onto anything in particular... I wander intentionally, not because I'm lost, and I enjoy every second of it. Anger, you say ? Hmmmm.
Your post looks like something from "New born Cristian's guide: How to make Atheists see the light through making Jesus look like a sissy, hippy, cool looking dude who is all about love".
Well, good luck with that...
I suggest that you read the Bible again (ALL of it) and accept the "man" for who he "really" was, as you should everybody else around you