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reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 10:36 AM by ThreeDeuce
Originally posted by Denied
Originally posted by ThreeDeuce

If you are skeptic, or you just think this is a hoax, that is okay. But, keep it to yourself


I dont agree with that at all, every member has free speech within the T&C, so Dan can tell his tale, but if someone disagrees, or wants to point out inconsistencies, we should keep it to ourselfs!!??

Thats not Denying Ignorance.


[edit on 17-7-2008 by Denied]


When I was on the 20th page of people blindly opposing Dan, and calling him names, and berating him, I realized how futile it was. Instead of this thread becoming a place for discussion, it became an I'm right and you're wrong argument. I'm sorry but that is for children. I definitely saw the line as crossed when people were taking pot shots at his wife.

Remember, there is a thing called common decency. And, just because you do not believe something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You always need to remember how dumb the human race really is. Do not forget that we use to think the world was flat, and we were the center of the universe.

Its very possible that all of the skeptics are completely wrong in their beliefs, yet they challenge Dan's beliefs and call him a liar. This just shows how closed-minded we are as a species.

What I'm getting at, is we need more of a scientific analysis of the information that we have, in order to determine the validity and scope of this event.

The thing I find the most hilarious, are the people who on the first couple of pages were calling Dan a liar, and saying this event was a hoax. Yet, dozens of pages later, they are still glued to the thread and still responding.......

HELLO...... its okay if you don't agree, we get the point. Get over it.
The OP is not attempting to sway your opinion, all he is doing is answering questions and giving the facts of his recollection to the best of his ability.

If you think this event is fake, it is okay to voice your opinion and state the reasons that you think it might be fake. But, don't fill the thread with your mindless rantings in order to enlighten individuals to your perspective. Leave the thread. This world is too full of nonbelievers.

I don't believe Obama will be a good president, but I could be wrong. So could you be.


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 10:42 AM by ThreeDeuce










reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 11:14 AM by Badge01
reply to post by ThreeDeuce



Posts with members calling the OP 'names' were removed as far as I recall, by those designated to moderate the site.

It is their role to do so. Many posters on the thread were very polite.


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 06:09 PM by Charlieslies88
Originally posted by Badge01
reply to
post by Dar Kuma



Dude, I very carefully resized that image and rotated it to match. It's accurate to within one pixel.

When you're given garbage, you have to weed out the trash the best you can.

The rings are different, and both are too big, though the one in this thread is about 2-3 sizes too big.

Stand back and laugh all you want. Some of us actually tried to get in there and do quality work. And it wasn't for my benefit, it was for the benefit of those who really are traumatized by these experiences subjective or objective, though they may be. It's one thing to post a story and say you're not sure if it was real, but another thing entirely to make something up like a Doc Savage novel and show your rear end to everyone. In MY opinion.



[edit on 16-7-2008 by Badge01]


Here we go again with the "experts" this time a "photo forensic expert" Very impressive. Not sure if you ever heard of a thing called perspective. If I take a picture of a circle on a fixed size background, then take a picture of the same layout from a different angle guess what... no amount of "matching up to the pixel" would ever make them the same size.

You guys just keep trying to pat yourselves on the back actually I will do it for you. GREAT work resizing those photos... you are a true MASTER you might want to think about publishing your studies to some type of forensic journal.


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 07:30 PM by Badge01
Originally posted by Charlieslies88

Here we go again with the "experts" this time a "photo forensic expert" Very impressive. Not sure if you ever heard of a thing called perspective. If I take a picture of a circle on a fixed size background, then take a picture of the same layout from a different angle guess what... no amount of "matching up to the pixel" would ever make them the same size.

You guys just keep trying to pat yourselves on the back actually I will do it for you. GREAT work resizing those photos... you are a true MASTER you might want to think about publishing your studies to some type of forensic journal.


Argument by intimidation doesn't make your point.

I'd invite you to take a similar photo of a ring which fits snugly and lay it on your hand in such a way that it appears almost 1/4 of an inch too large to fit your finger.

Note that I didn't bring up the idea of his ring being different, or bigger. I merely facilitated an examination of it.

You are free to accept or reject or show your own experiment which contradicts it.

By my measurement it isn't even close. If the ring finger is about a size 10-11. The ring shown is about a size 13-14. That's ~2.4-3.4mm too wide or an average of about 0.10-0.13 inches too wide. Even if the finger is a 7-8, the ring is a 10-11. It's still two to three sizes too big.

Again, you're free to snipe at will, or do your own experiment.

Here's a couple links which may assist you:
pages.ebay.com...
auctionrepair.com...

HTH.






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reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 08:15 PM by lovepens1
Originally posted by garyo1954
reply to
post by HaveYouConsidered?



That is actually another interesting point that should be addressed.

The OP describes the creature as being 6 foot, well built creature he grappled with, wrestled, and rolled on the bed with.

But instead of drawing the overall creature matching that description, we get a face, neck, and shoulders.

In the 79 pages of this thread not one time does the OP attempt to draw the hands, feet, body, legs, or tail.



I think that's the whole reason Minnesotawreckingcrew started his thread by drawing just a head shot when he said it jumped out his bedroom window.

He saw it go out, but only a head shot.

He was banned. I think he was showing us right there how ridiculous it all was.

Maybe minnesota was smarter than all of us from the beginning and just showing how ridiculous things were getting on this site.

Oh well, we will never know.


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 08:45 PM by garyo1954
reply to post by Badge01





Badge, I guess I'm in the minority here. I appreciate your work and all the work everyone has put into this thread. Most everyone has been as fair as humanly possible when the OP has dodged, ducked, and used the ignore button to avoid giving straight answers.

I've seen very few people take potshots at the OP, most are questioning the events as portrayed. IMO, mods have done an incredible job of keeping the bad element out.

Last night we touched on the what if idea.

First, if something happened and the OP had no wife, then we conclude this thread is a hoax.

Second, if something happened, and the wife was keeping the truth of what did happen from the OP, then this is a hoax on the OP and ATS.

Now let me add a third possibility. If there is a wife, but the OP has not told her anything about this thread, the conclusion is: Hoax.

As you can see, under the third possibility there could be a wife who knows nothing about any of this.


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 09:47 PM by depth om
reply to post by lovepens1



I've quit my job and sold my belongings!

What next?


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 09:52 PM by garyo1954
reply to post by lovepens1



First, I don't doubt your sincerity.
But how do you know the OP was exposed to Gary Gnu?
And second, how would this sleep disorder affect his wife?


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 09:57 PM by lovepens1
reply to post by garyo1954



He never gave a timeline about the work he's done. He said many, many years in different professions.

If that was true then yes, he would have been in kid in the late 70's early 80's.

Listen to Gary Gnu's opening line. Saying in a round about way, that it's all about nothing.

That's it.

Also, he probably acted out in his sleep and either hit his wife or child and didn't know it and feels guilty and this is how he is letting it out in some type of self therapy.

The knife is the key. It's all about the knives, pics and everything. without them it's nothing. The ring is a symble of love, he love his wife and can't believe that he hit his family that he loves while sleeping.



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