Originally posted by dizziedame
reply to post by fleabit
You're asking to be trusted? I don't know you from Adam's house cat. Why should I change my opinion and take your word for it that Dan is a hoaxer?
What are your qualifications to say without a doubt that this is a hoax?
Are you an expert and well known ufologist? If you are then please tell me what 100% truth there is that ET's exist. How can it be that many well educated and respected people believe we are or have been visited by ET's? I am a believer. Are you going to label me a nut job? It matters not if you do.
As far as being polite to a hoaxer, thief, liar or anyone else, I choose to call it being civil. In my opinion it is a mark of maturity and enlightenment.
Treat others as you would have them treat you.
Karma can be exceedingly harsh.
Edit to add:
I have never said this is not a hoax. I don't know if it is or not. Time will tell and I have more time than anything else. So I wait until the jury is in.
[edit on 11-7-2008 by dizziedame]
Well first of all, I've not made a single personal attack on Dan. I've been logical, polite, and I've come to my conclusions based on facts, not guesswork. I think on page 60 I broke down many problems I have with this story. Why don't you address those, and if you can explain them away, perhaps I'll see this in different light.
It doesn't take a professional in the study of UFOs to break this one down though. Although, I've closely followed the study of UFOs for around 28 years or so now, so I am not completely ignorant on the subject.
I believe in respect as well though. I haven't called Dan any names. I've not even directly called him a liar, just indirectly, by way of saying I think this is a hoax. Am I sure? Actually yes, I'm pretty darn sure. It only takes common sense to tear this one apart fairly easily.
His own account has lies in it. If he says he stabbed a creature 35 or so times, and then later in the story, this magically changes to over 100 times, why is this my fault, someone who is just trying to get the truth of the story? I'd certainly know if I stabbed a creature 35 times, or over 100, there is a big difference there.
The lighting makes no sense, the grappling on the bed, the pictures of ufos afer the fact, the dramatic flair added at many points. Again, it doesn't take a professional to see that there is serious issues with this account. Only someone with a decent amount of common sense.
I am a polite, very nice fellow. I take offense to you suggesting otherwise, simply because I feel it's within my rights to claim this as a terrible hoax.
And why is it an issue to me? Well let's see. We are on page almost 80 in this thread. A thread which imo, is full of the fanciful delusions of a rather poor storyteller. While an important thread about the radar reading in Stephensville, which harbors MUCH more solid evidence, is at page 7. This is a waste of time. It's a hoax. A fraud. Yes, he is a liar. I'm not a jerk for pointing this out, and I'm surprised you feel someone is rude or nasty, simply because he tries to break down the account of a very close encounter.
Have YOU bothered to very carefully go over this account? Until you do, I don't think you should tell others to not call this out as a hoax.
