I love to keep an open mind, but I could not make it more than a few lines into the original post. A couple things struck me as bogus.

I have seen CIA credentials from two or three individuals and neither had a "badge". They did have something that someone who is not familiar with a credentials folder might refer to as a "badge"-- I know what it looks like, so why don't you prove it to me by describing what you saw that you thought was a "badge"? Also, I remember what their personal credential cards looked like; tell me what the one(s) you saw looked like. You can be kind of vague for OPSEC concerns, just a general description and I am sure I can tell if you saw the real deal or not.

I've had security clearances both during my time in the military and the times I have done civilian work (even right this moment). And NEVER once have I had any kind of printed security clearance notice, or anything to show people. And what is "ultra 5" supposed to mean anyhow? What kind of document were you shown? Heck, I know my security clearance existed on paper somewhere, as I had to periodically sign something when it was "renewed," but I never had any papers in my possession that came out and told the clearance level! If someone waved something in front of me that said "JOHN DOE...TOP SECRET SECURITY CLEARANCE" I would laugh and tell the person to spend more time at Kinko's making a better fake. The only detectable evidence of my security clearance was either a colored part of an ID or a little sensor of some kind inside an access card that I had, which would allow me in and out of areas where my "need to know" existed.

Thank you for answering my question and not dodging it.

Some things you mention sound absolutely correct about the ID, but you mention some others that I did not recall seeing. Let me ask you...were there actually two ID cards (both normal-sized), one that listed the person's name and job title and other info, and another to accompany it that had the photo and other info?

I guess what I am trying to say is, I believe your motives are sincere, but I am questioning the validity of your source. I do not think you would spend so much time on these threads if you did not believe in what you are writing, I commend you for that, I feel the same way. I just found the fact that your source showed you that ID as "proof" to be somewhat suspect.

I have to agree that it do sounds like "Doc" havn't read it all.

Cause what "Doc" says is totally the opposite. =)
Again, don't mind the sceptisism, but this sounds like a "lost in translasion" more than a "I understand but...".

In my opinion the gradual disclosure is pretty clear.

I noticed it around the late 90's that "someone" is preparing us for something:

• Documantaries on Tv started to emerged more and more, hollywood movies regarding this matter was more and more released.
  
  
• People become more and more aware of this and it was more acceptable to talk about it.
  
  
• Press Conferences regarding Disclosures began to emerge.
  
  
• Ufology sites escalated and increased majorly in numbers.
  
  
• This issue have gotten more and more accpeted in Media
  
  
• Movie stars, Rock Stars, and other famous people have begun to admit they do believe and are activly persuing the "truth"
  
  
• Governments in other countries began to release documents that have been kept fromt the public eyes for 50 years, ( though this is logical since top secret documents should be release after 50 years, but i think there is a reason why they made that rule ).
  
  
• The list goes on...
  

Again, either you believe this or you don't.

I am one of those who DO NOT believe in persuading people into believing this. I much rather try to get them AWARE that this MIGHT actually be the truth or some version of the truth.
Making a person aware enough to start to get out here and gather their own facts to get their own view point to it all. Their on point of view.

Cause, and I've said this in another thread as well, your view point is sacred, and for one reason ONLY.

YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN HAVE IT!!

No one can actually come and say that "You are wrong, or You are stupid to believe in this", cause your believes are based upon your own view point.

However, our view point have most of the time, same references. we base everything we see, do, hear, write or whatever, after our own reality. After our own logical reality.

That is why, us humans, have difficulty to believe that other beeings, don't have to breath air, don't need water, can't travel far distances, have to eat like us, breed like us and must be built up with the same building blocks like ourselves.

The general thinking is, "If we can't do it, they can't".

In my believes this is not how we should think. We need to learn to "Think outside the box". We need to learn to embreace the unthinkable in order to, PERHAPS, understand them or the events that is going on around the world atm.

In a infinite space, there is infinite possibilities...

My 2 cents. =)

/Cheers.

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I am still reading all he posts, i am on page 3, but one thing occurs to me.

The part about the greys being clones and can no longer reclone, is right out of "Stargate" tv show, almost word for word.

"Every President since Truman(and various world leaders,non specified)has known TO SOME EXTENT."

This kinda goes with a personal thought i have had for a while now. Have you noticed that the MAJOR world leaders tend to be druggies/drunks?

What do they know, that they constantly need to drink/drug away????

"I find it highly dubious about our government being able to keep all of this secret when the government cannot even keep stories out of the newspapers regarding prisoners in Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, wiretapping and other similar events. "

Or, those were done to be "accidently" leaked out to keep people busy with that insted of other possible subjects....


Just saying....

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its a bit something like that. I have been experiencing dimensional shifts in reality. Glitches in the matrix' if you will much more frequently than before. My dreams tell me that we are in for more in the near future.

Google Video Link

see the correlation between this OPs account and this video...and you will go...whoah..
but you have to watch all of the video...its all interconnected and will give a coherent view on multidimensional facts.

Peace and love

Originally posted by jkrog08

Your probably wondering "How could we set up a time base and not leave evidence behind?"Good question,I asked the same thing.X told me that the base itself is "encompassed in a dimensional 'phase bubble',as well the staff.So when going out to explore there is not FOOTPRINTS,nor evidence of an outpost.

So how come you posted that picture of the foot print??
I am not attacking just curious. Thanx for your time.

I have to address the time travel issue. It is what stands out the most for me. If it is possible that they have a device that has allowed the travel and setting up of a base 100 million years in the past, then obviously they can hop/skip/jump anywhere they want.
First, regardless of what you said about phase shifting to avoid detection and evidence, there would be something substantial that would have already come out of this. I just dont see how it could be maintained long term in those conditions without something going wrong. The prehistoric footprint could in fact just be something else that happens to look that way.
Next, as I understand time travel theories, there are only so many times a time branch can occur before it shifts an existance into non-existance. Besides branching, you also have the ever popular paradox theory. So, how could our evolution be guided without destruction or paradoxial events?
Finally, if there is so much time travel available, then why has no proof so far leaked out? In today's society, secrets are getting out faster than ever before in recorded history. People are sick of secrets, which is probably why you have the info that you have. Unless the travel way is singular, there is no reason why something isnt available to put faith into the account.

Im not sure if you answered this in another thread possibly, but you mention that you havent spoken to this source in over 8 years. I assume if the information is as valid as i believe it is you must have had a incredible amount of trust with this individual. Was wondering why you havent followed up with X since then. Not being a hater just curious

Originally posted by netron
without any hard evidence, this tall tale smacks of science fiction rather than anything substantial.


a single photo is all it takes - just ONE...

how about a dinosaur landscape?
or a photo of a herd of Triceratops?

or what about a single photo of one of these Jovian moonbases, with Jupiter looming in the background?

i repeat - all it takes is ONE photo. without that, this story is nothing more than science fiction (albeit , highly entertaining sci fi, which i would love to see at the cinema...)

All a single photo would do is give a simpleminded person an object to scream hoax at.
If one is not ready to wake up, then no amount of evidence in this world is going to be considered proof enough to wake one up.
A clear shot of a bunch of dinosaurs standing in a field is too easy to debunk. uhhh let's see,
"That pic is obviously photoshopped" or "Anyone can freeeze frame a still from Jurasic Park" "Those look like hand made puppets" and the list goes on.
It is not up to anyone else to wake you up. Go back to sleep. You will wake up when you've had a good nights sleep. Untill then, run along and let the grown-ups finish talking, mmmmmK?

Ok that was a most interesting read i must say.

HOWEVER IT IS FICTION, THE ENTIRE THING HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM VARIOUS PLOT LINES IN THE FICTIONAL TV SERIES STARGATE SG-1.

IF anyone doesnt believe me go watch it, apparently season 10 in particular. If you couldnt be arsed reading it then go to tv.com or imdb or somthing. The greys who are a dieing advanced race of genetic clones, with the xerox effect are, in the show called the azgard(sp?). I couldnt be arsed reading back over it to go through the rest of the blatent similarities but look for yourself.

Although this whole thread is an elaborate lie(with help of our good freind mr.tv and too much time on his hands) some of the ideas could be possible and make for good theorys to look into further. However dont believe in somthing just because you want to, minds this weak are why we are slaves to the tv.

Well to me if your name was trump or gates i would think nothing more or nothing less of you. Might ask you to look after my buisness ventures though .

Im well aware of what the story is stateside at the moment, or should i say the alleged story. Now personally im 80% sure of the detainment camps, marshall law and all that craic could happen. But i do have some skepticisim left...after all i am human.

O and yes your tv shows make it over here alright, often times before or on the same day you guys in the states get to watch em. :p