America's 'Ultra Black' Programs:Part Two, page 5
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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 07:11 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by jkrog08



I can not say whether I believe or whether I disbelieve any of this as I have not spoken directly to "Mr X" personally, but I guarantee I would get the truth out of him or whoever, based on knowledge I have as well as knowledge of Government, without torture being utilized I might add.

I've mentioned before in one of your threads, I am "alien-agnostic", meaning I neither believe nor mis-believe based on the fact I have not seen an alien personally first-hand. I will never believe in something based on someone else's words or thoughts until I have personally witnessed something this substantial, and I will say the same of time-travel as well as Moon Bases, and Time Bases.

That is not to shoot you down in the least, jkrog08, as I let others believe how they wish to believe, without forcing My opinion on them.

I have read up a lot on the U.S.S. Eldridge, Project Montauk, and the Philadelphia Experiment, Tunnel Boring Machines, however, so I know the potential for these is definately possible, it's just whether fact can be placed within fiction, or even the reverse that fiction can be proven as fact that I find difficult.

Tunnel Boring Machines are proven fact to Me, the U.S.S. Eldridge was a Battleship used during WWII, a proven fact to Me, these are facts I can find actual evidence of through investigative action as well as making a phone call to tour the ship or make a purchase order for a TBM rental/lease.

Good work on the threads, keep at it, I'll still keep reading and posting on them, just understand I have reasons for skepticism that have nothing to do specifically with you, they are because of who I am.



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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 07:24 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by keeff



Thanks,you should read all of this and my other threads related.I have read derivatives of the terra papers,will read them sometime.


reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 07:38 PM by Anonymous ATS
I believe you jkrog, I really do. Like you said the truth is right there in front of our faces. Many of the things you told us today are the same things we've been hearing from other people. Many of these things strike a chord with me as to my admittedly limited exposure to ETs. Dreams, hazy impressions... They are so good at pretending to be imaginary, but they aren't. With such large scale operations going on they are having problems staying invisible. Many sightings, increased activity, they're getting bolder.

I'm curious about the blue ones. Short, thicker bodies, live underground. They have the same facial characteristics as the greys but they have more pigment and their skin is a bluish/grey/black color. Then there's the other short grets, they have thin bodies but not as thin as the tall ones. Then the tall ones, their skin gets dry, papery, but that's not how a healthy grey's skin is. Like you said, similar to dolphins and I've thought that many times. The skin should be plumper and smooth, almost gummy/moist, but it gets papery.

The Grey ones seem to go naked, but the blue ones wear skin tight suits and helmets.

They have human hybrids, those don't have black eyes (I think that is a covering, like sunglasses for us), they have large almond shaped (almost asian but wider) blue eyes. Greys have little to no pigment, hybrids tend to have sparse blond hair and blue eyes or to be bald. Usually have sparse hair. The hybrids have a limited ability to talk. The greys are so used to their telepathy that they have lost that ability.

I don't know if this applies to the greys but the hybrids do have telekinetic abilities. Their energy is less abrasive, less shocking, they don't paralyse you. I don't know if they can. The one I saw also wore a suit and helmet similar to the blues.

I think the shorter greys/blue are on the frontline workers, they are stronger physically than the tall ones, who are more authoritative. The shorties are maybe a little weaker mentally, but they still mentally overpower a frightened human easily.

Between your account and the terra papers everything seems to make sense.



reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 07:42 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas



Thanx SKL,ever since we first met in my America's 14000 mph Secret Transit System thread you have continually presented and offered a neutral,professional,and unbiased outlook and I thank you for it,as should all members of ATS.

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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 08:18 PM by DocEmrick
I'm sorry, and I respect everyone who believes in this sort of stuff...


But this is extremely outlandish, and irrational. Do you think our government would spend BILLIONS on these project concepts, when they're not even proven? Sure I'm prepared for your responses "OH THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT U 2 THINK!!!!111one BUT UR JUST A BLIND MEMBER OF TEH MASSES!!!!!111one"

Come on, some of this stuff is flat our RIDICULOUS. Which is why it is in the Skunkworks Forum I suppose.

When I moved to the United States from Liverpool, I became aware of two things. The National Hockey League (The only sport hated by America, which I adore) and an officer in the United States Army. Though I am a Field Grade Officer, I've had meetings with my Seniors and Superiors, and NOTHING leads to EXTRATERRESTRIAL TAKE-OVER, SPACE BASES, WE'RE GUNNA BLO UP SATTTTUURRN!! MUHAHAHAHA!!!"

In fact, if anything about aliens, the United States government is terrified by them. They have absolutely NO IDEA, how they operate, they have NO IDEA where exactly they originated, and they have SHARED these opinions with European and Asian nations.

As for the Illuminati, I have NO DOUBT, there is a greater group of elite attempting to gain all of the ECONOMIC POWER that they can. But World Domination? Come on guys, you all sound like paranoid-schizophrenics! They're not all to get YOU! They're out to get the economy, so when it collapses they have everything they need. Wake up people, it's the smaller and simple stuff you need to pay attention to.


reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 08:27 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by DocEmrick



So sad......so sad.........



reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 08:32 PM by DocEmrick
reply to post by jkrog08



I know, it is sad that you people will bite into ANY information presented by ANY supposed "source" in front of you. You need to look at the bigger picture, and someday, I'm sure you will.


reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 09:00 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by safteynet



Looking forward to your next exert



You will have to wait for my 'next entry',it will be at least 3 months,as I willl be gone for 3 months after Tuesday.......but it will all get out.


Also Doc: DUDE READ MY POSTS........

[edit on 7/6/2008 by jkrog08]


reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 09:29 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by fleabit



You really dont have an understanding of how the shadow government(or white government)works.......this is NOT condescending in ANY WAY,as I understand many dont........(all caps for stressing point)THE GOV. DOESNT CARE IF THIS GUY TELLS ME,AS LONG AS HE DOESNT GIVE ME ANY PHYSICAL PROOF OR GO TO THE MEDIA THEY DONT CARE,WHY?CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WONT BELIEVE,LIKE WE SEE HERE.AND THIS GUY HAD BLACK HELICOPTERS AND SPACECRAFT OVER HIS HOUSE NEARLY ALL THE TIME,I CAN VOUCH FOR THAT(AS STATED IN FIRST THREAD AND POST IN HERE)



reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 09:45 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by rhw007



Dude is that you in your avatar..lol,you look like a Pleadian(are you?.lol j/p).....thanks for the back up,Ill look over those links


reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 09:56 PM by kleverone
Originally posted by jkrog08
reply to
post by rhw007



Dude is that you in your avatar..lol,you look like a Pleadian(are you?.lol j/p).....thanks for the back up,Ill look over those links


That's Kahn from the Star Trek Movies. Not sure what planet he is from.
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