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Originally posted by Toromos
Can you link to where you got these statistics? I searched the FBP site and the Statistical Abstract of the U.S. and am getting different data than what you reported.
Originally posted by Yosimitie Sam
Ahhhhem
Another hate mongers thread !!!
Stats don't reflect that 94.7% of those inmates were atheists when they committed the crimes. The harsh environment of prison led them to prayer. So when they took the survey they answered honestly that they were Christian. Plain damn truth that most crimes are committed by atheists is obvious.
Originally posted by TheB1ueSoldier
Research groups, focus groups, and magazines such as Focus On The Family and Southern Baptist Convention's Council on the Family claim that Christian households only experience a 1% divorce rate at most.
Originally posted by TheB1ueSoldier
They even have the slogan "a family that prays together, stays together." So I wasn't kidding about the propaganda and unsupported "facts" that Christian interest groups throw at us. And in light of this new poll, its confirmed that in fact Atheists and Christians do not have a large enough difference in divorce rates for Christian interest groups to be saying this. That is why its anti-propaganda.
Originally posted by TheB1ueSoldier
Well who are you to tell who is or is not Christian? Everyone has their own opinion on what constitutes a Christian. The Catholic Church has stated many times that it is the one true church for Christians. Some protestants claim that the pope is actually an agent of the devil and that Catholics are condemned to hell. Other protestants believe that if you cannot speak in tongues then you will not go to heaven because you haven't been spiritually reborn (its true my old church preached this). Ultimately, you CANT judge each Christian to see if they follow your specific rules of Christianity, because everyone has different rules. The only reliable way is to ask people if they consider themselves to be following a Christian life and if they indeed are a Christian.
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
Actually, non-denominational refers to Evangelical Christians, not the kind of Christians who stay home on sundays and fap on the internet all day. Evangelicals hold a very fundamentalist Christian view and tend to grow along the bible belt.
Originally posted by TheB1ueSoldier
Agreed, but that does not mean you can throw all the evidence out the window. Face it, the only reason you say this is because the statistics didn't match up to what you wanted. If it were 75% Atheist and .02% Christian you'd have a lot less to quarrel with.
Originally posted by TheB1ueSoldier
Originally posted by Toromos
Can you link to where you got these statistics? I searched the FBP site and the Statistical Abstract of the U.S. and am getting different data than what you reported.
divore rates www.religioustolerance.org...
prison freethoughtpedia.com...
Lighthouse Ministries is a Prison Ministry in Oklahoma devoted to helping change the lives of incarcerated men and women through the love and priciples of Jesus Christ. Also reaching out to the children of incarcerated parents, offering summer camp and counseling. Therapy dog team ministry reaching out to hospitals and libraries in the OKC metro area.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Freethoughtpedia LOL
No wonder he got different numbers from the Statistical Abstract of the U.S.
The "atheist wikipedia" YEAH that's a trustworthy UNBIASED source for statistics about Christians. I guess you will accept Stats about atheists from Pat Roberson then too -right? It's only fair.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Many Guys become Christians in Prison. It has a way of getting your attention when society locks you up. Jesus changes lives.
A lot of guys also become gay in prison, what's your point?
The Forsyth Jail and Prison Ministries provides Christian ministry to the men and women incarcerated in the Forsyth County Jail and the Forsyth Correctional Center in Winston-Salem, NC.
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
A classical example of confusing correlation with causation. The fact that X and Y happen to be moving in the same direction does not mean that X caused Y.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
So people are not born gay? They just choose to become gay. Interesting position for an atheist to take.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Ok I have to spell it out for you?
If they become Christians in prison... they weren't when they entered.
Originally posted by TheB1ueSoldier
I'm familiar with that, but in this case X is a large factor in the causation of Y.
Originally posted by TheB1ueSoldier
The world would be better off without religion.
good people will do good things
and bad people will do bad things
but it takes religion to make a good person do bad things...