Originally posted by DimensionalDetective


People, we all need to start writing in and phoning our constituents ASAP...This is beyond ridiculous and catastrophic. These maniacs are all frothing at the mouth to get us into WWIII, just so they can line their already bursting pockets with more war-profiteering.

You sound a lot like me uncle. He's always e-mailing the president telling him how horrible a job he is doing and how he can't wait till he gets out of office. One day the secret service is gonna end up at his door.

You've got a point though. Maybe they don't know how horrible they're doing, or maybe they do know, and just don't care. We should start calling them and emailing them.
They can't throw us all in jail, can they?

[edit on 9-7-2008 by CNRHKick]

[I] You've got a point though. Maybe they don't know how horrible they're doing, or maybe they do know, and just don't care. We should start calling them and emailing them.
They can't throw us all in jail, can they? [/I]


Personally I think there are 4 plausible scenarios with the attitude of our elected Represenatives in regards to the Economy, Iran, Border etc....

1-Thier that dumb
2-Thier bought and paid for on both sides
3-Their Evil
4-Their Brainwashed....ie. similiar to a mass Manchurian Canidate(do what your told when we ask)

I can almost guarentee #2, but am starting to lean towards #4

.02c

Just because an option isn't "ruled out" it doesn't equate to being "desirable"..... I would agree with RP though, that a war in Iran would be disastrous for both America and the world, and would be tantamount to starting WWIII.

I'd agree that "something" needs to be done about Iran and it's long history of sponsored terrorism, but a declared war should be the very last option...especially while we are still embroiled in the last two efforts over there (i.e. Iraq and Afghanistan).

For those wanting diplomacy, that option is pretty much shot. We've double-dealed so much over there, that none of them trust us (and with good reason, from the history), so our word doesn't mean squat there. The only way to go is from a position of strength, but this does not automatically equate with war.

As for those lamenting the A-bombs in Japan...they were different times. Wars have ALWAYS historically targeted the civilian population as well as military targets. Do you think the Blitzkriegs on London, or the Allied bombing runs over Berlin were any different? No. And it goes back WAY further than that, back to the earliest records of warfare. Only NOW do we have the technology to be more discriminate, and the war in Iraq was absolutely AMAZING in this particular historic regard. Never before in warfare has an attacker used such precision to avoid civilian casualties. Did they still happen? Of course, but to an amazingly lesser degree than anything else in history. Of course, that still doesn't justify an illegal war that circumvents Congress and the will of the American people.

That all said, if the powers that be wish a war with Iran, it will happen, and there's little we can do, for we ceased to be the "powers that be" back in 2000, when our votes became "just for show"... For those who champion revolution, they must realize that this was a valid option in the past, but in modern times, and with modern mechanized warfare, it's simply a quaint idea, but not a realistic one. All we can do is enjoy the freedom we have now to express our disgust at it (for as long as we retian such freedoms)...(maybe I'm just in a bad mood today.... )

i want to start a post somewhere that invite ats users ( and possibly other discussion forums) .. we make general education fliers.. then get together IRL and hand them out at malls .. its something ive been wanting to do for a while now.

like for instance.. people on here that live within a few hours of each other need to get together at the nearest big mall and spam out general education fliers with stuff like this... that will conclude with how they need to get mad at the gov.

and then basically if that can be established just set a date once a month for us to get together (you feel more confident and supported when you arent alone) to spam some fliers... it will at least bring peoples attention to the issue(s?) but the point is spamming the fliers once a month... need to keep doing it over and over again till we start getting to people.. ( kinad like now the propoganda machine spams the same things they want you to think repeatedly)

and of course discussing what to make up the fiers with should be discussed.
it may seem like a dumb idea but it isnt... its a great idea.

I know many of you dont think Russia or China have any real power or technology but you are sadly mistaken. Deals are being struck now with Iran and the 2 countries for protection. Its not so much Iran that one needs to worry about.

Its like that movie Shane with Jack Palance where he throws the gun down and dares the kid to pick it up.