I hear Members of Congress Saying 'If We Could Only Nuke Iran': Ron Paul

okay, i don't support iran's government... but... WE NEED 2 STOP THEM B4 THEY GET US NUKED

WE NEED 2 STOP OUR Government is what i mean. if the people are supposed to rule the y does the government do all theese things to get a big red Target on americas back and let the world aim at us!

reply to post by jsobecky

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You said:
"Without getting into the discusion of whether the "establishment" killed MLK or JFK...

There is one big difference - those were men who had achieved. Ron Paul is just a congress critter from Texas."

Comment: If Paul is just a Congress Critter from Texas - how come he's been around for such a long time as an elected representative? Paul might not be the bouncing neo-con cheerleader the rest of the candidates most certainly are - but did it ever occur to any American [knocker of Paul] that is PRECISELY what the States and the world needs - and not another showman selling snake-oil for the benefit of privateering profiteers? If it hasn't - perhaps it should. There's six billion people besides the all important, all impressive, all-right-all-the-time Yanks ... and 300 000 000 fiscal fleas don't deserve to continue ruining the planet solely to keep their Dogs in business. That's - slavery.

I've been to very moderite British Conservative meetings with the US ambassadorial suite. What scares me is the level of anger and rsulting fear in presenting the alternative point of view. I suggested to a friend that I wanted to speak to your embassy senior over this. My friends (practically) dragged me off for my own good. And they were Conservatives too, despite the fact I switched.....

Things like this PISS me off i swear if the American government attacks Iran, even though im a patriotic Canadian, im going to fight for the Irani people. Jesus, enough is enough. Why can't people get into their heads specially Americans, that, America was built on the ideologies of the Knights Templar, people who practice witch craft and don't believe in God. They created all World Wars, create hatred between races so we can wipe each other out, they don't give a # about reality. They use us as slaves and when our tax dollars go to them they use that money to live lavishly, and invest in advance secret technology, and spiritual powers, which is our real motive on this planet to wake up everyday, pray and pray, and learn about our souls our oneness and the universe.

Every day we get closer to WW3 and that dream of mine becomes more true that it was God who warned me and who i saw was actually God, and the two Angels. I'm telling everyone, it may not be now or it may be, what ever the case just be ready, and sincerely, i really feel sorry for the American Citizens who are in the wrong place with such an evil government. Not even that the Evil few in the government and so on.


I know for sure as most of you know the day we hear on CNN that Bush announced attack on Iran, doesn't matter where you live everyone is #ed.

If USA attacks Iran, then Russia gets involved, if Russia Gets involved then England & Isreal gets involved,middle east war starts, if that happens Afghans will try to work with India and Attack Pakistan from the North and South, if Pakistan Gets attacked its official WW3, if pakistan gets attack then China & Saudi Arabia gets involved. When they get involved most of France, Germany, and Europe will get involved because they will either have to side with someone or just try protecting their land. And Russia's fall back strategy could be to head east and attacl Alaska and then move from there south into Vancouver Canada, either with Canadian agreement or without. When WARS happen every country takes the advantage of war to conquer land.

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they must be giving the kids some kind of sh... in their vaccines so they become very obedient or is it a fluor in the water?

All I can say, as an American, is "don't blame me" for the actions of my government, because frankly, they apparently just don't give a d**n what I think. Their approval rating this week was 9%! I've told them multiple times that bombing Iran has to be the stupidest thing we could do, unless they actually wanted the U.S. to get nuked. From the responses it would appear I have a better chance of getting my chickens to not cr*p on the porch than getting Congress to do something that would actually benefit the majority of Americans!

And before you go on about America built on "witch craft" and not "God", I suggest you have a listen to the Bob Hieronimus interview on Unknowncountry.com's Dreamland or check out Bob's book "The United Symbolism of America". It seems to debunk that idea and even provide an alternative theory that our founders knew that we were more than human, and used the symbols in that, more spiritual, frame of mind.

Iran will never Nuke USA. You have to go there to understand, they are very peaceful people, and even more important, they think well before they do anything, they like prosperity, knowledge and investing in Future.

just like how the American Government is screwing with its citizens so is the Irani Government with its people and some other governments too who are mostly pupets, and normal people like us are against any war, and most of their government also realizes that.

Americans are getting paranoid, "nuke them before they nuke us?" listen to yourself, why the hell would anyone Nuke America? everyone knows America is too advanced, a superpower, its all just a greedy agenda to kill most of us useless beings because the elite have enough advance technology to live without sheeps now.

They want to remove the world population so they can start again and with complete world control in a modern way where their kind only exists and ones who are lets just say much smarter, intelligent and have a scientific sort of belief system. They want to get rid of All religions and people of the believing type.

God bless all, Be you American, Canadian, European, Middle eastern or Asian. I wish that i am proved wrong and there are no conspiracy or evil governments or war, i can live with being a joke and found wrong knowing that we all can liye happy and free if thats the case.

I wrote this back in April 14 08 on this site.

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Posted by ancient arrow, on April 14, 2008 at 07:23 GMT

Regardless of what triggers the war. It will happen and we can
easily imagine the aftermath of it.
The world will be in shock over the first nuclear attack on Japan 1945.
It would be very harmful to the economy world wide, just as there was a recession after 9/11.

Israel nuking several Middle Eastern cities would produce fallout in the oil producing region and disrupt oil production.
Even if that was completely avoided, Iran has threatened to disrupt oil flow if attacked.
She plans to torpedo oil tankers going through the straight of Hormuz where one quarter of the worlds oil supply passes.
The result either way would be a major energy crunch worldwide.
The global economy will be hurt with temporarily higher energy prices.

Jerome Corsi claims that sleeper cell Hezbollah agents exist in America ready to strike targets on American soil,
perhaps with low yield nuclear weapons, in defense of Iran. This could seriously constrict the US and the world economy even worse than 9/11 did.
A similar 'emaciation' of Americas economic health,or recession,happened from the 1973 oil embargo in retaliation for America helping Israel in the Yom Kippur war.

BOOOOOMMMM!

no no no, i don't blame any citizen of America that would be ignorant of me, like in any case its the leader of a team whos to blame because they have the power to make decisions, i actually feel very bad for the citizens of America, that their own evil government would do that to them.

i guess we are living in the times of a new revolution, people power VS the evil elite, but i have to clarify i do not believe all of the elite are evil, every thing has its good and bad, it just that who ever has the power, either good or bad is whats seen by us.

Thanks for the link i will definitely check this out.

Thank you.

Im glad you brought this up

You know whats scary about all of this?

Knowing in the previous WW only one nuclear bomb was dropped to cause world devastation and fear, im saying boy are we screwed if a WW happens now, just imagine the impact on the World if Isreal uses a Nuke, Iran uses a Nuke, Pakistan Uses a Nuke, America uses a Nuke, Russia uses a Nuke, India uses a Nuke , the Terrorist use a Nuke, even if one gets the advantage over another nation to send the nuke first what if that Nuke hits 60 Nukes in one Nuclear facility ? how big will that thing blow?

You know, i read MOST of this thread. There is a distinct pattern of people NOT liking what is going on and absolutely apposing what is going on.

The sad thing is it is not just an AMERICAN thing anymore because it isn't ONLy affecting the American people but the GLOBAL population.

What i see and hear is "The Americans this, The Americans that..." I have friends who are American and it isn't THEM... It's the leaders that are doing this that also happen to be AMERICAN. I don't blame AMERICANS i blame their government.

2012?? No, NOT the end of the world but i DO hope a new level of understanding because it appears that as soon as someone leads a country they lose ALL understanding of EVERYTHING - most importantly FAMILY!!

They wrought their agendas on HUMANITY as a whole, because it ultimately affects us ALL - NOT just Americans. Unfortunately it is good to write about it on ATS and vent BUT why are people not banding together and STANDING together rather than sitting in an easy chair and saying "WHY isn't ANYONE doing something about this??!!" (no need to answer)

The truth is WE ARE ANYONE!! And noone is ANYONE on their own! The government sees to that.

What will they do against a million Americans marching to the white house?

Ah well... here i am on the internet... I am making NO difference to the situation this way - nor can i from 15000kms away.

But, I say it again, IT'S not the AMERICANS! It's the leadership and it won't stop anytime soon until they are lifted up, like little naughty kids, by the colar or the ear and given a DAMN fine smack!! And told "NOW BEHAVE LIKE THE PEOPLE WE ELECTED TO LEAD yes LEAD US"...

ok i'm done

Yep, ole Ron Paul says something, and the idiots actually believe him.

So what if some congressman actually did say something like that? Congress does NOT have any say in such matters. There are all kinds of Congressmen, from ultra-liberals that wouldn't defend this country under any circumstances, to those that want to nuke anyone that doesn't agree with us 100% of the time.

Big deal.

Ron Paul has his own agenda. he wants to bring down the Republican President, and wants to see a totally Libertarian country. He knows that this won't happen, so he gets on the radio and makes charge after charge after charge.

He is an idiot, working hard to rise to the level of moron. And those that believe everything he says are dupes.