Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by Anuubis
This started out as a good thread but turned to sh!t fast!

Seriously it was pretty obvious this was going to happen. The only way to have avoided this natural turn of topic would have been for the op to have sternly stated what she did and did NOT want to hear in the original post (and even that would have only partly effective).

Actually I think it makes the thread more interesting to share ideas. The op has received many good ideas about survival schools and other things, so the thread served its purpose. I would like to see it keep going even if it does discuss general gender differences and survival issues.

And to be honest any woman that wants to survive sit-x, especially on her own, had best understand what she will face. Males, sexism, dangers, etc...with be a very big part of surviving. Some of the women have pretty clearly stated they have no clue how to deal with rogue males now, what on earth would they do when society fell apart?



[edit on 6-7-2008 by Sonya610]

Yeah i guess i do have to agree with you on that.

Originally posted by DuneKnight
why all the hate? we are bouncing ideas off each other thats all. give it a rest bushweeds. all im saying lets not make false beliefs and lead women into thinking that they are capable of handling things that are obviously a long shot for them to achieve. im not saying all women are weak, thats far from it. i for instance aint a survivalist and in the woods alone i would die hungry, its a fact im willing to live with considering my circumstances as an urban citizen. but surely if women put their mind to it they might accomplish that however it would take twice the effort than men.

[edit on 6-7-2008 by DuneKnight]

Exactly what we were asking you not to do. Chewlip you will get some support and maybe even some ideas here but if you really want this effort to be a success I think you will need to move away to a forum where there arent so many egos. Dont let anyone fool you, there are women who are capable of doing this as good if not better than a man, there are some that arent. Just as the last poster said, he is one of the men who will fail so as you see not even the males are guaranteed to have success. Success is not up to what gender you are it is determined by your desire to move forward, learn and condition yourself.

Ok Folks, Let's keep it on topic, please.

Some good info and points of view, but let's not get too far afield.


Thanks

Lets do this, as orangetom1999 stated in his post go ahead and ask your questions. Ignore the gender bashing posts, if we answer them we are only fueling them so lets simply ignore them and focus on Chewlip's questions.

sure it doesn't hurt to learn some skills, it never does, thing is don't become an solitary isolationist type when facing danger. and for that matter dont walk into danger thinking you are up for it without a reason, i personally dont know why people risk their lives for such cheap thrills. example: rollercoaster, that thing is insane, whoever made it up clearly was meant as a joke.

[edit on 6-7-2008 by DuneKnight]

Originally posted by ~MaSoN~
Lets do this, as orangetom1999 stated in his post go ahead and ask your questions. Ignore the gender bashing posts, if we answer them we are only fueling them so lets simply ignore them and focus on Chewlip's questions.

Exactly!

Originally posted by DuneKnight
read a book, educate yourself do that type of thing thats what we need women for but grabbing weapons and building camp fire or something is not useful.

I don't know which part of this, I should be offended by. Is it because you've already determined that the only thing I'll be useful for, is reading a book and educating myself? I'm sorry, but don't pretend you know me or any other person on this thread.

you are preparing urself for something that might not even happen, probably wont.

Do you drive around with a Spare tire in the back of your car? Most people do - it's called "WHAT IF". Being prepared for something that never comes is better than not being prepared when it finally does come.

plus women can never fend for themselves anyway so one way or another a man would be vital. woman's body is too fragile to sustain nature's challenges because men and women are built differently so clearly they are highly unequal in strength.
[edit on 6-7-2008 by DuneKnight]

Women NEVER fend for themselves? Words like NEVER and ALWAYS weaken your argument...especially if you don't have facts.

Some of us were RAISED to fend for ourselves. Some of us are pretty darn good with a rifle or a handgun, some of us, can cook, clean, start a fire, AND..think. Some of us are more useful than just being able to sweep the dirt floor and keep the human race going.

- Carrot

[edit on 7/6/2008 by CA_Orot]

Originally posted by DuneKnight
you are right, i am generalizing. you know why? because these qualities i detailed are of the majority not you. majority matters.

plus i basically said what you guys are saying all along albeit in a different aggressive tone. I agree alot with you, just minor flaws in ur arguments compel me to share my views thats all.
[edit on 6-7-2008 by DuneKnight]

This is a discussion we should have throgh U2U not on this thread. As there are some flaws in YOUR argument also my dear.

Chewlip - if you're ever in Canada, let me know - we'll go out camping.

- Carrot

Originally posted by DuneKnightI wonder who will pay you.

Hey, I wasn't bashing you. I actually thought your behavior was far less annoying than usual in this thread.

And in fact I, like you, realize that I wouldn't have a shot at surviving in the woods. I mean for the single people with no obligations it is easy to think they can just head off and try to fend for themselves. But in real life it is not that easy for many of us, what if you have a grandma in a wheelchair? Or a diabetic cat? Or other fragile dependents that would surely die if you left them because they could not keep up?

Evacuating during sit-x, and leaving an urban area to fend for oneself in the woods would only be realistic for some people. Others would not even consider it.

I love these female survivalist threads. They have real entertainment value. Some are even educational and enlightening.

OP, being female in a survival situation in not necessarily a handicap. If some rogue band of marauding bad guys (and it will probably be mostly guys) comes into your little campsite group, your man, your protector, your big hulking macho survivalist will probably be the first one shot as women are not considered much of a threat. That gives you time to draw, aim and rapid fire several of them, reducing the number whose butts you have to kick.

Survive on, sister.

Originally posted by whitewave as women are not considered much of a threat.

Very true. And if you can't do away with all the males, play them off against eachother. Instead of trying to fight off all of them, if you know you can't win turn on the charm and pick the strongest, or one that is at least pretty darn strong.

If a woman shows favor towards ONE male their natural protective instincts will often kick in. If they think you want and prefer them alone, if they think they can have you to themselves they will often protect you from the sexual advances other males. Men don't like to share their partners if they can avoid it. Its biological. This provides the woman the chance to separate from the group and just deal with one male instead of a gang.