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reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 09:15 AM by Chewlip
reply to post by angryamerican



No no no, I certainly don't think that. I just thought it would be a good idea to start a thread for women, as I don't think it's a very good idea for a lone woman to meet up with a bunch of male strangers from the internet, for whatever reason. I don't know if you have a daughter, but would you feel comfortable letting her do such things?

I didn't mean to offend, but to me it's sensible.


reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 09:23 AM by hildar
reply to post by angryamerican



I know not all men are that way but I still cant imagine being the only woman in the woods with maybe 40 men that I didnt know. Knowing my luck they would make me do all the cooking for them and the laundry.

Hilda


reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 09:26 AM by hildar
reply to post by Chewlip



I figure if situation x happens my family will find me useful, I still know alot of wild plants that we can eat and use for medicines if needed. And I have made lots of baskets in my day so I can teach the kids how to make them and many other things.

Hilda


reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 09:37 AM by ATS4dummies
Being a survivalist means you have a track record of being given limited options and producing ***TANGIBLE*** results.

There are exceptions, but in general, women have a very different idea of what work and accomplishment are compared to men.

Most but not all women believe work is pushing buttons on a computer, answering phones, telling other MEN what to do, and house chores and child care.

Being a survivalist is completely different work involving crisis management and creative problem solving. I'm sorry but a LOT of men are great at this and women would rather just talk about what they might do but nothing ever gets done. The only time anything tangable gets done is when a man steps in and does it.

For example, last weekend, I was designing a portable propane shower I could fold into a suitcase. The hoses I needed to join were of the wrong size, and I needed some way to join them together. My solution - Acetone and Styrofoam formed a malleable plastic I used for a connector, and I used a butane lighter to soften the plastic hoses to fit on the connector and cooled to form a permanent seal. I now have a portable propane shower made from copper tubing, a propane lantern, paint cans, an adapted foot bycycle pump, and detachable PVC tubing with a shower curtain and plastic storage container. Total cost of materials $80.

This is exactly the kind of work that survivalists must perform to "survive".
Survivalists fix their own cars, and anything else for that matter. They utilize their skills as generalists (not specialists) to take a creative and interdisciplinary approach to arriving at a workable solution.

But most important thing that (Male) survivalists do is they DO and not just talk. Not all, but most women fall short in this area.

Don't get me wrong women, I am very grateful for all of you being exactly who you are and we need both types on this planet, but I am pointing out that we are different. And most importantly, differences are not bad, they are complimentary. Women and socializing are what keep the villages together, and the housework done, and the hearth warm, and the children fed.

Men are built to defend in times of crisis, build the infrastucture of civilization, and invent new technology which create all the "push button" comforts of home and efficiency of industry.

I guess the most important thing I have observed is that the trend in the last 50 years is to treat women better, and I am completely for that, but look around women.... everything you have is built by men. Think about that and give it the consideration it is truly worthy of. Men handle change and adaptation well, and women handle stability and preservation of all that is good. Thank goodness for our differences.


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reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 09:58 AM by hildar
Originally posted by angryamerican
Yes mam I do have a daughter. She was raised as a Survivalist. As for feeling comfortable Honestly I don't have to worry about her. She is very tuff, and can take care of herself.

Don't get me wrong I see you point and applaud you for starting this thread. I also know that the post so far were done in levity. I still felt I needed to say something because non survivalist or new survivalist may read such post and strengthen the stereo type that we as survivalist have to deal with almost daily. Ill give you an example.



I dont think I would want to meet up with a bunch of rough, tough, strange men all with guns and maybe knives in the middle of the woods


So I take no offense and honestly encourage threads like this, but I take every opportunity to fight the stereo type of the modern survivalist.

I even started my own web site about survival that's how serious My family and I take it.

Please keep up the good work. When My wife gets home from work I will have her check out your thread. and Ime sure when my daughter gets home from her camping trip she will add to it as well.



Now where I grew up in Maine a survivalist weekend meant you went up in the mountains, with guns, knives, and basicly lived off the land for the weekend. That is why I said that about the guns and Knives not like it was something bad but if you guys just fix cars and stuff for survival instead of go hunting and living off the land for the week or weekend then that just isnt survival.


reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 10:04 AM by hildar
reply to post by ATS4dummies



I would like to see you live in the state of Maine with 3 kids in Diapers, no running water, No electric, no phone, and its 3 miles to the closest stream and you have to walk it to carry the water for baths for 5 each day for the family. You also have to cook outside over an open fire all summer. And cook on a wood stove all winter long. for 2 years. Believe me I did it and I am a woman. Women can live that way. And I also Built that house so dont say women cant build or do anything.

Hilda


reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 10:04 AM by Chewlip
reply to post by Yarcofin



That's a very good point.

It was my idea to really just encourage females. I didn't have an all-female group in mind, just a place for females to talk, and go on mixed survival outings, with the knowledge that you wouldn't be the only female going along.

ATS4Dummies...

It wasn't my intention to debate the differences between males and females, it was merely out of concern that women may feel intimidated going out into the wilderness with a bunch of males they met on the internet.

It's not a case of males and females are different, it's a case of every induvidual is different, and can bring different things to a group, regardless of gender.

I don't want this thread to turn into a Males vs Female debate.


reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 11:02 AM by ATS4dummies
Originally posted by hildar
reply to
post by ATS4dummies



I would like to see you live in the state of Maine with 3 kids in Diapers, no running water, No electric, no phone, and its 3 miles to the closest stream and you have to walk it to carry the water for baths for 5 each day for the family. You also have to cook outside over an open fire all summer. And cook on a wood stove all winter long. for 2 years. Believe me I did it and I am a woman. Women can live that way. And I also Built that house so dont say women cant build or do anything.

Hildar,


Hilda, not only are you a survivalist, but you are an exceptional woman of which I have tremendous respect. Anyone who endures and survives tremendous hardship always commands my deepest admiration and respect.

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