By the way, I think we broke a record as in the fewest posts to break a young man's spirit.
He went from hopeful idealism to offline in record time. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Bad bad members.

With a title like that, one thing is sure... we are not the only ones reading this.
That being said, free speech isn't always free, and this could get a little touchy... if you know what I am eluding to. Baby steps man, baby steps... test the water first.

I am almost positive that a great many of us believe that our government is, and has been for a while, a government by the illusion of choice.

Possibly, a great many of us on here... maybe even some of the people we associate with day-to-day are aware of the idea, but in terms of numbers... I'm sure that we are the minority. Other than that, I wholeheartedly agree with your assumption on the illusion of choice.

we should take it upon ourselves to assemble and do whatever it takes to reclaim our government, and transform it back to what it once was, or at least what it should be, a government by the people, for the people not a government by the rich and powerful, for the rich and powerful.

Indeed, as it is a duty to every citizen of this country should... but the times have changed since the revolutionary days. To ask the question of "what could we do to overthrow the government" is ludicrous... it is just plain crazy man. In that blunt of terms you [or any one of us] would be labeled as a terrorist. Who and how are just small factors in comparison.

The Constitution
It goes without speaking, that it should never be revised, rewritten or modified for any agenda period. End story. Our forefathers wrote it, and well... for the most part it has been "legem terrae" since. To make anew would be an injustice. IMHO

I hear what you are saying here, and yes alot of us are fed up... with everything... we are overindulged by it all, the whole fallacy has become a fad of extraordinary proportions. It has gone way out of our control, and in that downward spiral we have subsequently lost control. Some sheep will return to the barn, yes there will be strays... but the shepherd is the minority afterall and change starts small but takes alot.



Yes, I feel we as citizens of this nation do have what it takes... would we have been here now if we didn't? Maybe we have grown complacent over the years... yes but some of us have not grown dumb. We might be shepherds but the best thing we have, ultimately is our voice. If you do meet a sheep somewhere in a dark alleyway (nevermind) start with the smalltalk. Open some minds in the process, you never know.

Talk of violent revolution is close to suicide, but when you talk about destruction... well you know.... you can count me out.


In closing, it's MY CO2...
Happy Fourth!
T-

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[No offence to the op... just brewski discussion, oh, and I really tried to edit out those puns]

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[edit on 5-7-2008 by telemetry]

oh boy.. someones gonna be the gitmo treatment soon

Might wanna rethink that title too



[edit on 5-7-2008 by Question Fate]

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
By the way, I think we broke a record as in the fewest posts to break a young man's spirit.
He went from hopeful idealism to offline in record time. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Bad bad members.

I am sure you didn't brake his spirit just your idea of what is funny finally drove him away seeking more insightful people to talk to.

He was talking about fixing a problem in context, you with your beer and hot dog represent the weight in your American society, you drag the rest of the country down to your beer drinking hot dot eating unfunny and stupid one liners.

I live in Australia and was born in Russia, this country is known to be layed back and carefree and relaxed.
But when we have problems we solve them, perhaps not always but we solve them.

Our troopers are being taken out of iraq and the old governments work choices schema has been destroyed and made illegal.

Your country has many good people with good hearts like the original poster who wants to see his people a bit more free a bit more active a bit more involved with there country.

But like i said people like you are the virus in the country veins and the virus in the world.

*starts scribbling names and notes*

I'll send postcards from wherever the Witness Protection program sends me after I get my reward.

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!

As far as I can tell the drum circle of death is the only reasonable idea so far.

I'll bring a didgeridoo... sounds like a mighty fine endeavor to me.

All out of Glue, want a beer?
Carry on,
T-

I really don't think it is wise or safe to be posting your wish to overthrow the government on the internet.

Unless you have some crazily-powerful proxy server and untraceable IP address it is likely this thread will be flagged automatically, be analyzed and then you could be deemed a domestic terrorist.

You know they can and have charged people for thought crime in the past few years right? Discussing plotting something seems to be as illegal as actually carrying out that plot so be careful.

You've got balls to say something like that online, but those balls probably won't stay connected for too long if you keep it up.