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New Daytime Sighting, Brilliant footage on Film

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posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 04:49 PM
I took a look at the youtube video and the footage was from an 8mm
VIDEO camera NOT a FILM camera - If it was a FILM camera there would
have been film grain evident within the video compression stage
and this show up markedly on playback plus later on in the video
at 5:50 a person shows what looks like to me a 120 minute Hi-8
metal evaporated tape which he seems to confirm in Spanish
as being an ME (i.e. Metal Evaorated) tape which is always
Hi-8 or a Digital-8 tape. (it's still a bit hard to tell because
of bad quality compression on the youtube video)

One PROBLEM i have with this video, is the EXCESSIVE blocky artifacting
on the edges of the craft as the camera moves about.

Since most MPEG/MJPEG compression algorithms
use 4x4, 8x8 or 16x16 pixel macro-blocks when doing
a DCT (Discrete Cosine Transform), this EXCESSIVE
macroblockiong usually means pixels that are HIGHLY varied
in luminance (i.e. varying brightness) on the edges and thus
part of a cut & paste operation or the video has been EXCESSIVELY
compressed. (Which it is!!!!)

I would need access to the original tape to import into my
editing system to see the ORIGINAL quality of the tape.
If I see excessive macroblocking on ORIGINAL Hi-8/Digital-8 tape footage,
then it means the tape is EDITED...if I see simple luminance noise
(speckly dots caused by the internal electronics) and Chroma Crawl
(colour shifting on the edges of objects due to limitations
in the NTSC television system we use) then the tape is NOT edited!

HOWEVER, if there is a moving airstream or HEAT SHIMMER surrounding
the object, that would ALSO cause the macroblocking I see on the
object edges BUT ONLY AFTER video compression has been performed.

The distortion I see when he says the camera went wonky on him
is usually (on high-8 cameras at least) caused by dirty heads,
excessive shaking or video tape that is NOT fully coming into
contact with the rotating drum heads on the handycam.
That can mean bent capstans within the tape loading
and playback mechanism (which is somewhat normal for older
models of these types of cameras)

I have ALSO seen that type of pixelating when high magnetic fields have
been put nearby the camera (i.e. taping near a big loudspeaker,
or powerlines) etc. However that sort of EM field would need to
be in the 0.5 to 2 Tesla range at the distance I have calculated
to be about 1000 to 1500 feet away.


I cannot make a DEFINITIVE comment either way unless I see the
original tape which can be mailed to me by contacting me first at:

Henry A. Eckstein
phone: 604-253-3990

If phoning - do so only on Monday to Friday
12:00 pm to 5:00 pm - ask for Henry indicating that you
want to talk to me about a videotape conversion question.

I can then arrange a courier to pick up the video
or for it to be mailed to me in a secure manner!



If the this craft IS real and a magnetic field WAS
as strong as 0.5 to 2 Tesla, .... AND KNOWING that the
video was near HOUSTON where some well known
UAV manufacturers are...I can suggest a ducted fan
unpiloted UAV system that DOES NOT use JP series fuel
but rather possibly a fuel-cell to power linear induction
powered turbofans and stabilizing thrusters (that's why
the craft would be so stable and fairly quiet!)


All in all I cannot say with certainty whether this craft is real
or not until I see the actual Hi-8/Digital-8 tape.

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 04:53 PM
reply to post by StargateSG7

Someone already posted a link to another thread where the film is debunked, it's on the first page near the top, i should have remembered the old thread but i guess i forgot.

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 05:00 PM
reply to post by StargateSG7

One caveat I just forgot to post, is that some EMI (Electromagentic
interference) experts would disagree with me that it would be only
a 0.5 to 2 Tesla EM field at 1500 feet in order to cause disruptions
to the tape...They MAY say it would need to be in the 5 Tesla or
more range....Remember that the tape loading mechanism of Hi-8's
and interior shell is all-metal (and highly conductive ferrous metal) and
thus can be a contributing factor in allowing low-Tesla EM fields
to disrupt consumer electronics over long distances up to 2000 feet.
Especially since such electronics are NOT radiation and EMI hardened!

It would be interesting to ask his NEIGHBOURS if some of THEIR home
electronics were disrupted at the time of the videotaping.
And especially if Cell Phones or things with Antennae were affected!

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 05:11 PM
This is such baloney. The tone of that witnesses voice, his mannerisms shout baloney.

Being duped.

If this has already been proven a hoax, why is it being allowed to be reposted?

[edit on 5-7-2008 by Electro38]

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 05:27 PM
reply to post by Electro38

Well i agree the thread should now be locked, i posted something i thought was original and it's not, so yeah lock it down fine by me. Anyone can make a mistake

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 05:32 PM
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

back off? i think not.

inadequate response. i don't know what is worse, you not realizing you posted about this subject, or you doing it on purpose.

you don't deserve to show the right-eye-of-horus. good luck tonight with those vamps.....

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 05:40 PM
reply to post by Z.S.P.V.G.

So i make a mistake and that makes me a terrible person? I admitted i made an honest mistake, do i need to explain it again? Ok will do.

I saw a video on youtube, i didn't watch it all because i wanted to be the first to post it, my ego at wanting to be first is what has caused this misunderstanding. I forgot i had seen it before, simple memory slip and easily done. I have no history of hoaxing, check yourself if you don't believe me. I gave two different opinions because in the old thread i must have watched the whole thing, in this thread i posted it before wathcing the whole thing, just because i wanted to be first to put it up. Very stupid of me and something i havn't done before, again check yourself.

If you can't accept that a human being can make a mistake then i don't know what to tell you.

Again as this video is already on ATS and has been debunked, i request a kind mod lock this thread of mine.

[edit on 5-7-2008 by ImaginaryReality1984]

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 05:51 PM
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

dont worry about it...i have done the same thing before.

just let the thread die...don't respond to it anymore and it will go away

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 06:09 PM
The only thing about the vidio I belive is that the dog did not belong to this guy.If thats BS then I'm sure thats only the begening of the BS.That paticuler type of UFO has been hanging from wires for a long time.

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 06:28 PM
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

It looks quite small.

They must add in strange atmospheric effects around the image
to make it look like a static drive vehicle.

The new theory is that there no vectoring against gravity, hence
the is no anti gravity in effect.

The positive charged craft captures momentum.
Why they get stuck must be bad navigation and not a power plant

Stupid Illuminati UFO pilot.

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 06:31 PM
Till I see them land a ship and walk out. Then I'll say some thing, Till then it's been 60 years of these home movie sightings.
It's getting pretty boring and I'm sick of these "things"

See ya

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 06:50 PM

Originally posted by merky

Till I see them land a ship and walk out. Then I'll say some thing, Till then it's been 60 years of these home movie sightings.
It's getting pretty boring and I'm sick of these "things"

See ya

Will it be outer space insiders or more human earthbound Illuminati insiders that will walk out?

I say Illuminati insiders are inside.

Six stretchers were removed from a crash and three were of small
stature. I'm thinking some small actors are carried along for soft crashes.

posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 12:56 AM
This video is probably fake. It looks like the guy just hung something from a line from tree to tree.

posted on Jul, 8 2008 @ 02:30 PM
We don't know what looks real so its called fake.

If we saw it on the ground and looked inside and took pictures
in the air we might know something.

I don't know about getting inside any of these things relying
on 100 year old technology that Tesla might have invented.

Mexico seems to have these flat circular cans and not up to par
with the triangles in Europe, UK and US.

Some 1955 agreement made them an international secret.
Blackmail or some other enforcement method must be used to
keep the secret. After all when the Air Force said to those under
their command to say its alien technology, they keep on saying it.

Dr. W. Ley said as much on TV in the 50s and he may have been
on the 40s American saucer design team.
On assignment in New Mexico for Germany he defected and
became an American citizen.
He was replaced by W V Braun before WWII and both may have
met Tesla and Dr. Goddard.

posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 08:51 AM
Exceptional footage. I would like to see what an analyst would have to say about it before I get to excited. The dude seems very honest. you are a good doggy LOL.

posted on Jul, 9 2008 @ 10:27 AM
reply to post by StargateSG7

There may be more E than M.
Tesla worked with high voltages and low current in a kind of ac of
static charges.
The Illuminati gave Tesla a measurement of high magnetic field but
Tesla's secret is in high charge or electric field.
Another left turn in Tesla science presented to us by education controlled
by the oil companies and the Illuminati.
There should be high electric fields nearby; the kind that raises the
hair on you head. Perhaps why people feel strange around UFO
sightings. Walton may have gotten walloped by some static and
went unconscious.

The open ended flat spiral coil is a static generator.

Yeah, flat and round like the bottom of saucer and triangle UFO.
You can make any shaped can into a UFO but going with the flat
one seems popular. However using a conical coil may work as well.
Yet I see this external to the ship and an internal cone would sit
uneasy but let me know it its been done.

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