Originally posted by John_Q_Llama
Bigwhammy, nice video. While I no longer adhere to the belief that the only way our universe came to exist is by the work of God, I enjoyed your work.
At the very least it was a good take on your point of view.
Thank you, for the compliment and the well thought out post.
A few things came to mind as I watched it, and I will readily admit that some of it is quite abstract and unconventional. However I feel that any
theory that man comes up with at this point in time is not likely to be proven true. There is far too much that we do not know about, and the result
is that we are forced to base conclusions on theories about things like the Big Bang on what amounts to unprovable, though educated, guesses. Mind
you, those guesses may lean heavily on scientific data, but there are far too many holes in our knowledge of space, time, and the universe, to go
ahead and claim that any theory is THE right one.
Well its the evidence that backs up the theory right? Well creation has all the evidence in its favor. Einsteins general relativity requires a finite
universe - he fought the idea too and tried to create a cosmological constant to make the math work with an infinite universe. After Hubble's
discovery Einstein called it the greatest mistake of his career.
On to my thoughts...
What if what we call the universe is not everything? I mean, if you look at pictures from our universe you see tons of galaxies. What if our universe,
as we call it, is like a galaxy in a much bigger place, with tons of other universes? With our current technology it is challenging to observe what we
believe to be the oldest objects in the universe, and those claims are frequently updated with new observations of even older objects. But what is
beyond those? What if there is something we cannot see because it's so far beyond the edge of our "universe"? Perhaps this isn't an issue, because
I'm sure the creation supporter will still insist that all of those "universes" had to be made somehow. 
Obviously I don't believe the universe is everything because I am making a bold claim that it had an intelligent creator. And he would fit your above
description well and he makes those exact claims about himself.
“To whom will you compare Me? Or who is My equal?” says the Holy One. Lift your eyes to the heavens and see who has created them, He who brings
out the starry host by number and calls them each by name. Because of His great might and the strength of His power, not one of them is missing. Do
you not know? Have you not heard? The everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, does not grow tired or weary. No one can
fathom His understanding. (Isaiah 40:25-26, 28)
Your video does not address the oscillating universe theory. I'd like to learn your thoughts on that.
I do not know not a lot about it. Other than it's very tenuous. From my examinations the evidence is sorely lacking. It's not evidence as much as
conjecture. From my reading the alternatives to the Big Bang have been presented by disgruntled materialists desperately trying to escape the
philosophical implications of the creation event. The same crew that clung to the steady state theory with quasi religious fervor.
String theory does raise almost spiritual questions however. And makes miracles seem possible. Our understanding always grows deeper. I am always
willing to learn.
There is something that bothers me about the claim that huge odds were overcome for our universe to wind up the way it is. To me it seems that the
creation perspective assumes that the only way things turned out the way they have is because something supernatural intervened. But what if the way
physics, chemistry, biology, etc. operate, convene in such a way that those odds are totally inaccurate? Is there anything that dictates that if we
could create 1 billion universes in test tubes and observe the product, that there couldn't be 250 million like ours?
You raise some interesting issues... but the anthropic principle is talking about the fundamental constants are tuned for carbon based life to exist
right here on earth. I admit it seems very earth-centric but the more we learn the more special this place is. Carl Sagans' famous quote about how we
live on a "an unremarkable planet.... blah blah" has backfired and embarrassed him now. The evidence is we live on an overwhelmingly remarkable
planet, in an incredibly fine tuned position for life to flourish.
Refer to this Link
The Lord who created the heavens, He is God. He fashioned and made the earth and established it; He did not create it to be empty but formed it to be
inhabited. He is the Lord, and there is no other. (Isaiah 45:18)
Also I guess people have profound misunderstanding of the word universe.
I checked the Dictionary of Word Origins by John Ayto which said:
"Universe denotes etymologically 'turned into one,' hence 'whole, indivisible.' It goes back ultimately to Latin universus 'whole, entire,'
a compound adjective formed from unus 'one' and versus, the past participle vertere 'turn.' Its neuter form, universum, was used as a noun meaning
the 'whole world' (based on the model of Greek to holon 'the whole'), and this passed into English via Old French univers. The Latin derivative
universalis gave English universal."
Uni = one Verse = words.
Sound familiar? God Spoke the entire universe into existence.... WOW!
Lastly, I have a question for you Bigwhammy. I noticed that in your video you did not really breach the subject of religion. However, when people see
God being associated with any sort of creation, they jump to the conclusion that the God being mentioned is the God of Christianity. Is that an
accurate assumption?
I wasn't ashamed at all to put Bible verses in the video. Make no bones about it, I am a Bible believing Christian. I just do not accept that you
have to check your brains at the door of the church when you enter. I don't think God wants that either. There's a lot of evidence for Christianity
But that's another can of worms...
My goal simply was to show the philosophical and spiritual implications of the Big Bang. Which is why materialist scientists fought so hard against
the Big Bang. I see the same thing happening with Intelligent Design right now. They don't even want it discussed it threatens their world view so
bad.
Thanks for sharing your work. Keep it up! Though not everyone is going to agree with what you put into it, I hope that doesn't discourage you from
exercising your creativity and skills in the future.
Thank you so much for a very polite and for the well thought out post. I can tell we don't agree on everything but it was a pleasure to respond to
someone, who was respectful and appreciative of the time I put in it.
Thanks Again
That's not
science. That's pure faith. It's exactly why you attempt to criticize religion... 
