It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by dgtempe
gUYS,
Well that's the problem here. One positive thinker aint going to accomplish a darned thing. There are many out there already, and it doesnt make a dent in any accomplishment.
But wouldnt it be nice if the majority at least thought good things were around the corner?
Originally posted by dgtempe
And so, the thread will die and we will undoubtedly go back to pessimism and doom.
Originally posted by dgtempe
And so, the thread will die and we will undoubtedly go back to pessimism and doom.
I will try in my own way to curb my mind, meditate, and do the best I can, as one person, to make it better for myself and maybe the others that have expressed interest will too.
Sounds pretty sharp to me. Focusing on changing others is not the way. We have to start with ourselves and that light is what the others will see and want for themselves. It is a domino effect. If people are laughing in a cafe, you look over at them and either smile because they are having fun, or you get irritated and want to leave because you can't concentrate on your own sadness. (emphasis on choice here)
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer around here, but I think it is so important that we do our own personal meditating on the positive, the good, the beautiful, and the true.
Originally posted by dgtempe
If we dont dwell on Planet X, will it simply miss us with minimal chaos?
If we stop thinking about the NWO, will it simply fail and go away?
If we dont anticipate 2012 a being the end, will we continue to live?
I am calling for people all over the world to collectively and decidedly deny
any of these things. (testing) Could we have good lives if we started thinking differently?
PLEASE PLEASE, to borrow from Lennons song, is asking to GIVE PEACE A CHANCE that far fetched and hard to do?
Peace starts in the mind, and i am going to try it out. But i need lots of people backing this up.
Could it be we are getting exactly what we are summoning??
Give it a thought and get back to me.
OK?
Thanks
Originally posted by seagrass
Age of Aquarius It seems, that whether or not the Age of Aquarius has ended is up for debate. And, can you prove prayer isn't helpful?
It's an effect that would seem to defy reason — yet Targ reports striking results. In a 1998 study, after selecting practicing healers from a number of traditions — Christians, Buddhists, Jews, Indian shamans — she supplied them with the first names, blood counts and photographs of 20 patients with advanced AIDS. For an hour a day, over a ten-week period, the healers concentrated their thoughts on the pictures of these patients, but not on those of a control group of 20 other AIDS patients.
Originally posted by seagrass
Prayer effect on water Emoto's work says otherwise.
It's an effect that would seem to defy reason — yet Targ reports striking results. In a 1998 study, after selecting practicing healers from a number of traditions — Christians, Buddhists, Jews, Indian shamans — she supplied them with the first names, blood counts and photographs of 20 patients with advanced AIDS. For an hour a day, over a ten-week period, the healers concentrated their thoughts on the pictures of these patients, but not on those of a control group of 20 other AIDS patients.
source There is much more if you would do a little research.
With complementary medicine, the usual assumption is "If it helps, great - it can't hurt." But it can. Consider the Russian psychic Nicolai Levashov. He urged Targ to cease radiation treatment and then convinced Comings that the cancer was no longer killing her; it was the necrotic cancer tissue, Levashov insisted, that was poisoning her body. It had to be cut out or she would die. Comings wasted the last month of his wife's life on a wild goose chase, desperately calling every brain surgeon in the country, begging them to perform this surgery. In her final week, he made an appeal to the tumor board at Stanford. He gave them her MRIs and medical charts. The board met on Thursday; they made a decision but didn't call until the next morning.
"We're sorry," he was told. "We've looked carefully at it. We disagree with what you've been told. The tumor growth is killing her. We can't do the surgery."
"You're too late anyway," he returned. "She died last night."
Originally posted by super70
Yes I think everything would change. America was founded by a group of men who had an idea. The momentum of this idea of "freedom" carried on by courageous men and women has transformed a few colonies of wooden forts into a world superpower. America is an idea, a way of thinking, a mindset. The idea of "America" is that "united we stand," meaning that together, with a can-do attitude and will-not-fail approach to our obstacles, we can achieve enormous goals. Sadly, some people have lost sight of this.
Yes, I took the first one I found on a search because I don't really care what you believe. I didn't even read the article. I didn't need to, because I am not the one who doesn't believe. You can believe that if you want. That is how I, personally, work towards peace. But I am surprised you didn't discredit Emoto's work as well.
Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed
Originally posted by seagrass
Prayer effect on water Emoto's work says otherwise.
It's an effect that would seem to defy reason — yet Targ reports striking results. In a 1998 study, after selecting practicing healers from a number of traditions — Christians, Buddhists, Jews, Indian shamans — she supplied them with the first names, blood counts and photographs of 20 patients with advanced AIDS. For an hour a day, over a ten-week period, the healers concentrated their thoughts on the pictures of these patients, but not on those of a control group of 20 other AIDS patients.
source There is much more if you would do a little research.
Maybe prayer does work.Afterall I was praying your own research would be sloppy enough that you would actually try to use Targ's research as a datapoint. And you did.
The entire article is long, but luckily for you I have provided a direct link to the Pertinent bits.
Now on the flip side, here are two studies that were done properly, without violating accepted standards of research.
Study one news report
Study report 2
As I said, prayer deosnt work, and can in fact be harmful.
Oh and BTW you do realise that despite every major "psychic healer" who prayed for Dr Targ, (most of whom were the same ones used in her biogus studies) she still died an excruciatingly painful death from a brain tumor that prayers had absolutley no effect on?
With complementary medicine, the usual assumption is "If it helps, great - it can't hurt." But it can. Consider the Russian psychic Nicolai Levashov. He urged Targ to cease radiation treatment and then convinced Comings that the cancer was no longer killing her; it was the necrotic cancer tissue, Levashov insisted, that was poisoning her body. It had to be cut out or she would die. Comings wasted the last month of his wife's life on a wild goose chase, desperately calling every brain surgeon in the country, begging them to perform this surgery. In her final week, he made an appeal to the tumor board at Stanford. He gave them her MRIs and medical charts. The board met on Thursday; they made a decision but didn't call until the next morning.
"We're sorry," he was told. "We've looked carefully at it. We disagree with what you've been told. The tumor growth is killing her. We can't do the surgery."
"You're too late anyway," he returned. "She died last night."
[edit on 7/7/2008 by Shazam The Unbowed]
Originally posted by seagrass
Yes, I took the first one I found on a search because I don't really care what you believe. I didn't even read the article. I didn't need to, because I am not the one who doesn't believe. You can believe that if you want. That is how I, personally, work towards peace. But I am surprised you didn't discredit Emoto's work as well.
Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed
Originally posted by super70
Yes I think everything would change. America was founded by a group of men who had an idea. The momentum of this idea of "freedom" carried on by courageous men and women has transformed a few colonies of wooden forts into a world superpower. America is an idea, a way of thinking, a mindset. The idea of "America" is that "united we stand," meaning that together, with a can-do attitude and will-not-fail approach to our obstacles, we can achieve enormous goals. Sadly, some people have lost sight of this.
Sigh.
The founding fathers didnt simply "think good thought" they took concrete action to make those thoughts a reality. Had they simply sat at home, thinking positive, we would be british subjects to this day.
Thinking doesn't change the world, acting does.
Originally posted by super70
I didn't mean to imply that thought alone changes anything. What I meant is that a group with a positive mind-set will cause the action needed to attain seemingly impossible goals.