posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Hal9000
The FISA bill is a no win situation. If Obama doesn't vote for it he appears to not support protecting our privacy as well as the bill has no chance
of passing without the compromise. If he goes along with the compromise he appears to go back on his word. This is called negotiating. Politicians do
this all the time in order to get what they want.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.....
It's NOT about whether he voted for it or not.
It's about the FACT that he pledged he would filibuster ANY bill that gave the telecoms retroactive immunity. And then not only isn't he going to
filibuster a bill that gives retroactive immunity, he's going to VOTE FOR THE BILL.
And it's amazingly perceptive on your part that you describe this as a "no win" situation. Yes, it's all about Obama and what's best for him,
not about Obama standing for any core principles we as voters could rely on.
No, a win would be to protect our civil liberties. This was a LOSS for us.
But with his support of a government surveillance bill that offers retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies — a bill that he vowed
last year to filibuster — the honeymoon has ended.
Disappointed over his position on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the online activists feel jilted and betrayed and have taken to
questioning his progressive credentials. One prominent blogger, Atrios, has even given him the moniker “Wanker of the Day.”
“He broke faith,” said Matt Stoller, a political consultant and blogger at OpenLeft.com. “Obama pledged to filibuster, and he is part of that
old politics, in this case, that he said he wasn’t. It will spur us to challenge him.”
No one wants to see our troops leave Iraq more than me, but I was actually concerned when he said he would bring them home immediately. I think it
needs to be done responsibly just as he is now saying. I think the original position was due more to his inexperience than trying to please everyone.
So he is learning fast.
Are you kidding? The man is running for President of the United States and as such needs to present plans for our country. And you think his
original PLAN was just something he threw together and didn't think through enough?
C'mon... we're talking the single biggest issue facing the POTUS -the war in Iraq, and Obama is asking us to let him lead the country and you
believe he was too inexperienced to come up with a good plan to start with?
And so what additional experience did he suddenly get???
This is the whole point about why about shouldn't get anywhere NEAR being POTUS. He does not have the experience AND he'll say anything to get