Some very interesting reading here, and some very sound spiritual advice, I might add, that would read well for anyone, regardless of faith or belief. I will investigate more, for sure, and am particuarly interested in the meditation aspect, if anyone cares to share more.

Cait

[edit on 3-7-2008 by caitlinfae]

A few years ago I saw a video from an FBI raid on a Satanist home. Was probably the most disturbing thing I've ever seen. These Satanists killed people and had body parts all over their house. Their victims blood they had in a glass container at the center of a pentagram on a table, the pentagram was made with blood smeared on the table. The satanists were planning on drinking the blood from the glass container during a satanic ritual. The FBI opened a freezer and there were human heads in there, because the Satanists needed to take the skulls and use them for decoration during a ritual.

For those of you who think Satanism is an innocent religion and not a cult. For those of you who think the satanists in the video I saw were fringe and don't represent your typical satanist. Consider that their religion calls for human sacrifice and all these sick rituals. You think most satanists don't do what their religion calls for? No they do. Do you think they use fake bodies and stuff? Well they don't. Where do you think they get the bodies from for their rituals, dig them up in the graveyard? No they go out and kidnap people and brutally murder them.

I'm trying to find that video again now, I want to share it. It will really open your eyes as to what goes in in the circle of satanists. The site I originally saw it on is no longer online, but I have no doubts I can find it.

Originally posted by lilsugag99
I have a question. What is the standpoint of Satanism on the hereafter? I had heard an interview on C2C with a man named Joshua P Warren that stated that Satanists do not believe there is anything after life here on Earth.

Good question.

Satanism does not believe in an after life because it is a religion of the Earth, it is a religion for the living, not the dead. All of it's basic tenants and rules are concerned only with Earthly existence.

Personally I feel that worrying about the afterlife does very little except hamper my enjoyment of the life I do have. There is no one alive who can prove there is or isn't an afterlife, there is no one who can prove which concept of an afterlife is correct, therefore I see very little point in concerning oneself with it.

Perhaps you were to hold fast to one concept of the here after and upon death find out that not only were you wrong but you were doing the exact opposite of what you were supposed to. There is no way to until that day that death overtakes you.

Those people are probably extremists. Every religion has them. I am sure not every Satanist sacrifices humans. Those stories are all you hear about in the media because they are extreme cases. It's like when people say that New York City is a scary place. People all over the country think that it is because they hear all these stories on the news. However, NYC is not and it's because of the media that people develope these opinions.

That's very interesting. It does not bother you to think that there is nothing after this life? Just blank? It gives me the creeps to think about it.

Originally posted by azzllin
Great thread, there is so much disinformation about Satanism people fall for it hook, line and sinker, ......


i doubt your going to convert any devout christians into realizing Satan is another concocted excuse to destroy, and accuse the innocent who where a threat to the catholic church.

Personally, i would rather the weak minded, closed minded, ignorant, spiritually dead and subjugated stay in their own religion. Those who are able to understand Satanism will be the ones who come to it.

as LaVey himself said (paraphrasing) "You either are a Satanist or your are not a Satanist. If you are a Satanist you were probably born that way."

What a lot of Anton LeVay horsemanure is on this thread.

The Church of $atan was a great big publicity stunt in order to scam people out of money. Today even LeVay's daughter Carla won't have anything to do with it because it is just a scam.

All the rest of this so-called philosophy is just mind-control crap from the CIA fed through Levay's Church of $atan and Aquino's Temple of Set just as the CIA did the same through The Process and Scientology. You who buy into this have just bought into a giant CIA mind-control BlackOp.

And as far as drugs goes, there was no bigger druggie in the Haight in those days than Anton LeVay.

Originally posted by lilsugag99
That's very interesting. It does not bother you to think that there is nothing after this life? Just blank? It gives me the creeps to think about it.

No, because I am more concerned with fulfillment, both physical and spiritual while I am alive. A pretty concept of the afterlife is meant to do nothing more than comfort those who are oppressed and subjugated.

No matter how horrible life became one could always say "At least it will be nicer in Heaven" and they will continue to accept their lot in life.

A Satanist would say "This life may be all I have and I should enjoy it and seek fulfillment in it." With this attitude the Satanist would attempt to better their situation.

If there truly is no afterlife then none of us will miss it as we rot. If there were an afterlife I'd rather go somewhere interesting like Valhalla then some cloudy place in the sky where I can praise God and the angels for eternity.

But doesn't a spiritual satanist contradict a Lavey satanist because you as a spiritual satanist believe in Satan as a being rather than satan as a symbol

Sorry for the spelling lol and if I did not make any sense but hopefully you get my drift

Originally posted by lilsugag99
But doesn't a spiritual satanist contradict a Lavey satanist because you as a spiritual satanist believe in Satan as a being rather than satan as a symbol

I don't feel they contradict so much as they are just different. LaVeyan Satanism has been described as an "un-religion" more than once and therefore I don't think it can really contradict a belief system that is more religiously minded in the traditional sense of the word