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Obama is Falling Back to Earth

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:17 PM
Anyone else noticed? This recent movement toward the middle has plenty of Obama supporters wondering if he's the same candidate he was during the primaries.

My wife has been a die-hard Obama fan since Edwards dropped out of the race and she told me earlier that she has been losing respect for him by the day because of his new-found love for the right and those policies.

I'm starting to get concerned with all his talk about public service. Is he talking about making this mandatory? I admit i'm normally very caught up on this stuff but over the past week i've been very busy with work and haven't been updated by my political-junkie wife because she has been ill.

I wonder if Barack's attempts to get more of the middle vote will alienate the one's who got him on the top of the ticket in the first place. This could be the best year yet for a Barr-Paul ticket!

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:31 PM
how could anyone possibly tell what candidate he is he won't say he just says change and people go yeah change yeah change yeah

what are the changes besides socialism?

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 12:56 AM
reply to post by The Cyfre

Falling back to earth? Obama's been falling back to earth since the Ohio/Texas primary day. He lost Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, South Dakota, Florida, Rhode Island, and Puerto Rico. Some of these states he could barely get 30% of the vote.

Yes, Obama has already dropped like a rock back to earth. His sudden shift from his core policies aren't going to help him. Kerry tried the same thing and look where it got him. He lost to BUSH, who has an approval rating of 30%.

Put it this way.

It's going to be a lot easier for Clinton supporters and liberals to vote for McCain than it is for conservatives or moderates to vote for Obama.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 02:47 AM
Although I cant find a source for it I believe that Nixon was quoted as saying something along the lines of to win a Republican primary a candidate has to move to the right and to win the election a candidate as to move to the centre . All my learnings concerning US politics on the boards point to there being some truth in that statement . A more localized explanation is that Obama may have been campaigning in more conservative states where he needed to moderate his message .

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 02:33 PM
I think Obama is a classic liberal (NOT a socialist, a liberal). There was a time in the history of this country when he would be considered a centrist (1930's-1960's). Today the U.S. has moved so far to the right that the "center" is what used to be considered the right wing.

I don't think he has changed his basically liberal philosophy. He is just reaching out to find ways to include conservatives in the dialogue and in the changes he hopes to bring about.

And then, it's true he needs at least some of the conservative vote in order to win. In many ways he's doing what he needs to do in order to get elected. It's maybe too bad, but a politician has to be pragmatic.

posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 02:43 PM
before you say that any candidate is not a socialist, learn what a socialist is. there are plenty of issues up on obama's site that are indeed issues of a socialist.

posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 05:10 PM
You can say Obama has been falling back to Earth since the primaries but this isn't the primaries anymore, so it's a whole different playing field. He may have been losing some support to Hillary and losing states as a result but voters don't have the choice between Hillary and Obama in the general election, and it isn't just about Democrats either.

I find it impossible to believe that a Democrat would end up voting for McCain over Obama. He may have the strategic platform but he can't compete with Obama's charisma.

I think the more threatening issue is concerning McCain with Barr in the race, personally. He is going to snatch many a conservative away from McCain, giving Obama a distinct advantage in some purple states.

What do people care about? Iraq, the Economy, Terrorism, and the Economy. Whoever has the better plan is going to win the election, regardless of any slander that will come up.

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