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Facts Mormons WON'T Tell You...

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:18 PM
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Here are the facts:

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they believe your Church is wrong, your Christian creeds are abomination to God, and you pastor or Priest is a hireling of Satan.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that there is salvation only in their church&emdash;all others are wrong.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that those who have been through their temples are wearing secret underwear to protect themselves from "evil". This "evil" includes non- Mormons like you.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU about their secret temple rites at all. If they did, you would spot them as non-Christians immediately.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they think "familiar spirits" are good, and that their Book of Mormon has a "familiar spirit". Leviticus 19;31 says familiar spirits defile one, and are to be avoided at all costs.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that women receive salvation only through their Mormon husbands, and must remain pregnant for all eternity.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they intend to be gods themselves some day, and are helping to earn their exaltation to godhood by talking to you.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they intend to have many wives in heaven, carrying on multiple sex relations throughout eternity, until they have enough children to populate their own earth, so they can be "Heavenly Father" over their own planet!

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that you were once a spirit-child of their heavenly father, and one of his numerous wives before you were born on earth.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that the Virgin Mary really wasn't a virgin at all but had sex relations with their heavenly father to produce the Mormon version of Jesus Christ

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they believe Jesus had at least three wives and children while he was on this earth.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that the "heavenly father" they ask you to pray to with them, is really an exalted man that lives on a planet near the star base Kolob, and is not the Heavenly Father of the Bible at all.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that Jesus was really Lucifer's brother in the spirit world, and it was only due to a "heavenly council" vote that Jesus became our redeemer instead of Satan!!

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that there are over one hundred divisions in Mormonism. They conveniently "forget" this while criticizing the many denominations within the body of Christ

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that all their so- called scriptures such as the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants, and even their official "Mormon Doctrine" statements contradict each other on MAJOR doctrinal points. The King James Bible is likewise contradicted.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that the reason the Book of Mormon has no maps is because there is not one scrap of archaeological evidence to support it!

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that the state of Utah, which is predominately Mormon, has a higher than the national average of wife-beating, child abuse, and teenage suicide.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that their prophet Joseph Smith was heavily involved in the occult when he founded Mormonism.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that that they encourage visitations from dead relatives from the "spirit world", a practice forbidden in the Bible. (Deuteronomy 18:10- 12.)

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that there are many accounts of Joseph Smith's first vision besides he one they present to you, and all are different

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that their secret temple oaths are based on the Scottish Rite Masons.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that for years they considered the Negro race inferior, and even one drop of Negro blood prevented a person from entering their temple.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they expect Christ to return to their temple in Missouri, but they haven't built the temple He's supposed to return to, because they don't own the property. (It is owned by the "Temple Lot Mormons" who have plans o of their own, and won't let the Salt Lake City group buy it).


Cont.




posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:18 PM
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MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they consider the Bible to be untrustworthy and full of errors.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that Jesus' death on the cross only partially saves the believer.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that that according to Anton Lavey's Satanic Bible, the demon god of the living dead is called "Mormo". Is it just a coincidence that the Mormons are so concerned with the dead?

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that on their Salt Lake City Temple they prominently display an upside-down star which is a Satanic symbol known as the Goat's head.. Why?

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they believe the Archangel Michael came down to earth with several of his celestial wives, and became Adam in the garden of Eden.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that that they believe the angel Gabriel came down to earth and became Noah in the days of the flood.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that their Prophet Joseph Smith prophesied falsely many times. For example, he foretold the second coming of Christ for 1891. The Bible teaches that one false prophecy puts a prophet under death sentence. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22).

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that their Prophet Joseph Smith did not die as a martyr as they claim, but was killed during a gun battle in which he himself killed two men and wounded a third.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU about the Mountain Meadows Massacre in which they brutally murdered an innocent wagon train of settlers, of over one hundred men, women, and most of the children, traveling through Utah.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that Joseph Smith taught that there were inhabitants on the moon, and Brigham Young taught there were inhabitants on the sun as well!



WHY WON'T MORMONS TELL YOU THESE THINGS?

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Mormons, are well aware that if these facts were known to the convert prior to baptism, they would have very few converts! The Missionaries are well trained to keep most of these facts from their potential converts.

Tragically, many Mormons may not even be fully aware of the doctrines and history of their own church. Every statement on this tract is true. Mormons are encouraged to check out their own publications for documentation of the above. After all, if the Mormon Church (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) has the truth, it can stand any amount of investigation.

Please do not be afraid to investigate. We are not Ex-Mormons, but Christians defending the Christian Church and its beliefs.

Excellent documentation etc. can be found in the Mormon Ministry web sites from our link page.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:29 PM
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Mormons won't tell you, you are in the wrong forum..


But I will.


Its ok it happens to everyone sometimes. This really belongs in the religion and spirituality forum on bts



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:29 PM
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OK...so why are you telling us this? What do you hope to accomplish?



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:35 PM
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Very good post and very informative, would the OP have by any chance the same type of information on the Watchtower/ Jehovas Witnesses?

Thanks

Camilo1



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by NephraTari
Mormons won't tell you, you are in the wrong forum..


But I will.


Its ok it happens to everyone sometimes. This really belongs in the religion and spirituality forum on bts




Sorry I'm still new to ATS, so next time I post something, I'll make sure it goes in the correct section.. Or can i still change it??



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by DarthChrisious
OK...so why are you telling us this? What do you hope to accomplish?



To inform the public that this is an occult. This is not a religion by God. Jesus did not come to establish a religion, he came to spread the word, an dsave the world so we could all go to heaven.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Camilo1
Very good post and very informative, would the OP have by any chance the same type of information on the Watchtower/ Jehovas Witnesses?

Thanks

Camilo1



Yea there are some things on the Jehovah Witnesses:

mmoutreach.org...



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:44 PM
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Wow, got a gripe against Mormons do we? They're admittedly non-trinitarian Christians and I believe this is exactly why they keep some of their practices quiet.

CHRISTIANS WON'T TELL YOU a legitimate provable reason why their sect is better than another sect



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:49 PM
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Oh lord! I want to know why Mormons WON'T tell me how to remove my mailing address from their database. This includes those annoying Jehovah Witnesses. I don't want to be rude with those people but dam-nit please stop ringing my doorbell! So really, I cannot find anything online to stop them from visiting.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by pikypiky
Oh lord! I want to know why Mormons WON'T tell me how to remove my mailing address from their database. This includes those annoying Jehovah Witnesses. I don't want to be rude with those people but dam-nit please stop ringing my doorbell! So really, I cannot find anything online to stop them from visiting.


You have to invite them in for a conversation, ask many questions about fundamental doctrines and dogma. Ask them tough questions regarding their beliefs. If you are informed enough and do it right they will think you are Satan and never talk to you again.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:55 PM
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Loved this thread.....didnt see if you mentioned Mormons believe God lives on planet Klupta with his many wives! Or that Joeseph Smith was a convicted con man. (Sorry if it was there and i missed it)

Funny story....when Joeseph Smith wanted to write the Mormon bible.....from the alleged golden tablets no one ever saw but him....he dictated God's word to some guy named Harris (a book publisher i believe). When this guy (Harris) brought the book home to have it published and told his wife about the great prophet and how he was dictated this book from God, his wife said "Hey lets see if the guy is legit.....tell him the transcript was lost and if this is true then God will dictate what Smith told you word for word again." Needless to say when the guy went back and told Joseph Smith he lost the writings and God needs to dictate it to him again Joseph Smith told him God wanted to change it anyway so it wouldnt be the same!!! LOL True story!!


Anyone that believes the nonsense Joseph Smith spewed should be castrated so they can not reproduce!! AND NEVER LET A MORMON MISSioNARY INTO YOUR HOME!!!!

For the record. Even Joseph Smiths family does not follow what he believed.....his great granddaughter was my daughters college roommate!! Not something she was proud of!!



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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Your thread is what drove me away from christinsanity.

Your half truths are offensive.

Your the only one thats going to heaven.

The End.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 10:02 PM
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No, but an admin can do that for you once they realize it needs to be moved.


Its no biggie. It happens to us all.




posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 10:11 PM
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So what if everything you say about the mormon religion is true, they are not better or worse than any other mainstream religion out there.

I don't get the whole fixation with sex that some religions seem to have. It takes a special person to firmly believe that they will somehow keep having sex after they die. I just don't get the whole concept of sex in the afterlife, don't see it happening personally, bunch of simpletons in this world.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 10:13 PM
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Oh....TheShadow!!! You saw that on SouthPark!!


But, I agree....it is all nonsense.

Here's the real story....Mormonism was made up to justify the subjugation of women, by extremely mysoginstic and horny men, who just wished to continue to have power over the women. Oh! Wait a minute.....isn't that what Christianity does too??? OH!! and Islam as well?

And Judaism.....where does that 'religion' stand on women's rights? they have the right to clean up in the kitchen after the Seder??

I have a bias (if it's not obvious yet) against ALL religion.

Funny story -- when I travelled to Egypt, a woman in my group was SDA. BUT, she knew quite a lot about the inner workings of the LDS. The most secret "Holy of Holies", in their 'temple'. So, we're travelling in Egypt, learing about the ancient beliefs....and, lo and behold, she says...."Why, that's almost exactly what the Mormons believe!"

What she meant was, there are many, many comparisons that can be drawn between the secret innner workings of the LDS, and the ancient egyptian religions. No surprise, of course, a quick search will show that Joseph Smith was a fan of Egytology...

Why, if it's a valid 'religion', do LDS keep a 'seventh circle' HOLY of holies, only when you've attained a certain level of trust, can you know.

AND. I won't even bother to mention the horrendous notion of 'tithing' 10% to the 'church'.

Darn....I wish I could start a 'church' too!!!! I'd be rich!!!!!! (AND tax free!)



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 10:19 PM
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Where did you get all your information on Mormons? do you have a link?
i know you're new but it is customary to put a link to your source...unless YOU are the source and if so than you must post your qualifications for posting negative information about peoples.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by furiousracer313
Here are the facts:

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they believe your Church is wrong, your Christian creeds are abomination to God, and you pastor or Priest is a hireling of Satan.


Yes they will. They are simply polite enough to not rance around shouting about how wrong everyone is or starting hate threads on the internet about another religion.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that there is salvation only in their church&emdash;all others are wrong.


Yes, they will and do so say that.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that those who have been through their temples are wearing secret underwear to protect themselves from "evil". This "evil" includes non- Mormons like you.


Again, they are polite enough to not shout about their panties. You haven't told anyone what kind of underwear YOUR wearing, that makes you evil too, right?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU about their secret temple rites at all. If they did, you would spot them as non-Christians immediately.


Thats why it's SECRET. Do you leave church and immediately tell everyone about the private things that happen there(family counciling, church reprimands, etc, etc)?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they think "familiar spirits" are good, and that their Book of Mormon has a "familiar spirit". Leviticus 19;31 says familiar spirits defile one, and are to be avoided at all costs.


Again, yes they will, all you have to do is genuinely be interested in listening.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that women receive salvation only through their Mormon husbands, and must remain pregnant for all eternity.


Your really stretching their beliefs to the extreme, but, ask them, they will be more than happy to explain to you how and why they think about pregnancy and multiplying.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they intend to be gods themselves some day, and are helping to earn their exaltation to godhood by talking to you.


Is that any stranger than pretending to eat the flesh and drink the blood of the son of God?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they intend to have many wives in heaven, carrying on multiple sex relations throughout eternity, until they have enough children to populate their own earth, so they can be "Heavenly Father" over their own planet!


Wow, dude, just wow... I don't think you know what you are talking about here. Please post a link to where you got this information.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that you were once a spirit-child of their heavenly father, and one of his numerous wives before you were born on earth.


Again, they will be more than happy to explain this to you if you really want to listen and not just exaggerate and ridicule.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that the Virgin Mary really wasn't a virgin at all but had sex relations with their heavenly father to produce the Mormon version of Jesus Christ


Again, this is a huge stretch, and again, they will be happy to help you understand why they believe what they believe.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they believe Jesus had at least three wives and children while he was on this earth.

MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that the "heavenly father" they ask you to pray to with them, is really an exalted man that lives on a planet near the star base Kolob, and is not the Heavenly Father of the Bible at all.


As opposed to a god who was also a man and died but didn't really die.....I get so confused. What I am saying is what makes it any less believable than any other religion?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that Jesus was really Lucifer's brother in the spirit world, and it was only due to a "heavenly council" vote that Jesus became our redeemer instead of Satan!!


Wow, you streched the truth so much there that you tore it.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that there are over one hundred divisions in Mormonism. They conveniently "forget" this while criticizing the many denominations within the body of Christ


And those other religions are so quick to point it out about themselves, right?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that all their so- called scriptures such as the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants, and even their official "Mormon Doctrine" statements contradict each other on MAJOR doctrinal points. The King James Bible is likewise contradicted.


Then why bring it up? Every major religion on the planet has major major contradictions in them, what makes Mormonism the target of your attack?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that the reason the Book of Mormon has no maps is because there is not one scrap of archaeological evidence to support it!


And look at all the maps in the bible\Torah\quran that make them real.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that the state of Utah, which is predominately Mormon, has a higher than the national average of wife-beating, child abuse, and teenage suicide.


The only place I can find that backs that up is on an Anti-Mormon website. All other sites list Oklahoma as the worst in those categories.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that their prophet Joseph Smith was heavily involved in the occult when he founded Mormonism.


Will too, if it was true.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that that they encourage visitations from dead relatives from the "spirit world", a practice forbidden in the Bible. (Deuteronomy 18:10- 12.)


Dude, seriously, you cant use one old unreliable spooky book to try to debunk another old unreliable spooky book. Leave out the bible quotes and verses. You aren't aloud to pick and choose them, There are other verses that command you to sacrifice goats and to go kill for god, why aren't you quoting those?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that there are many accounts of Joseph Smith's first vision besides he one they present to you, and all are different


The first 4 books of the bible all present many accounts of Christ, and guess what, all are different.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that their secret temple oaths are based on the Scottish Rite Masons.


Again, if they told, it would not be a secret.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that for years they considered the Negro race inferior, and even one drop of Negro blood prevented a person from entering their temple.


But not anymore. Thats kind of like saying you're racist now because your great great grandfather owned slaves. Things change. I think maybe if they still thought like that you may have a decent complaint, but they don't.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they expect Christ to return to their temple in Missouri, but they haven't built the temple He's supposed to return to, because they don't own the property. (It is owned by the "Temple Lot Mormons" who have plans o of their own, and won't let the Salt Lake City group buy it).


Just at most religions don't like to talk about the petty bickering that goes on in their own churches, not to mention religion-wide.



Cont.


Yeah, me too.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by Tiloke]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by furiousracer313
MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they consider the Bible to be untrustworthy and full of errors.


They will to, and if you read it for yourself you would see they are right.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that Jesus' death on the cross only partially saves the believer.


They will to.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that that according to Anton Lavey's Satanic Bible, the demon god of the living dead is called "Mormo". Is it just a coincidence that the Mormons are so concerned with the dead?


Where are you getting this crap from? Are you just making it up?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that on their Salt Lake City Temple they prominently display an upside-down star which is a Satanic symbol known as the Goat's head.. Why?


Why not? Why would the symbol for one religion be the same in another?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that they believe the Archangel Michael came down to earth with several of his celestial wives, and became Adam in the garden of Eden.


They will to, if they believe that.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that that they believe the angel Gabriel came down to earth and became Noah in the days of the flood.


Again, more than happy to explain things to people like you who are obviously grossly mis-informed.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that their Prophet Joseph Smith prophesied falsely many times. For example, he foretold the second coming of Christ for 1891. The Bible teaches that one false prophecy puts a prophet under death sentence. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22).


And how many of Christs prophesies have come true? Again you use a preted story to try and debunk another pretend story. You can't do that.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that their Prophet Joseph Smith did not die as a martyr as they claim, but was killed during a gun battle in which he himself killed two men and wounded a third.


So, he didn't die as a martyr, he just died like a martyr, got ya.


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU about the Mountain Meadows Massacre in which they brutally murdered an innocent wagon train of settlers, of over one hundred men, women, and most of the children, traveling through Utah.


And Catholics won't tell you about the child raping in the churches, Christians wont tell you about the crusades, Muslims wont tell you about Jihads, etc. Most people seem to agree that isn't needed in polite society. Are they still killing whole groups of people? Why aren't you telling us the whole story about that "innocent wagon train"?


MORMONS WON'T TELL YOU that Joseph Smith taught that there were inhabitants on the moon, and Brigham Young taught there were inhabitants on the sun as well!



Link?



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:03 PM
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Other than the wife-beating, child abuse, and teenage suicide, you make Mormonism seem pretty awesome.

I get to be the god of another earth by populating it with multiple spirit wives for eternity? Sounds pretty good to me.

And special underwear? Pretty cool. All I get to wear is boxers.

Me = jealous of Mormons

Thanks for the info. I am joining up. Can you tell me where I sign up? From your post I get the feeling Mormons won't tell me.



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