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Canadian ISPs Plan Net Censorship

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:08 PM
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Canadian ISPs Plan Net Censorship


www.americanfreepress.net

A net-neutrality activist group has uncovered plans for the demise of the free Internet by 2010 in Canada. By 2012, the group says, the trend will be global.

Bell Canada and TELUS, Canada’s two largest Internet service providers (ISPs), will begin charging per-site fees on most Internet sites, reports anonymous sources within TELUS.

With plans in Canada uncovered, I Power thinks that companies in the United States and other nations are also planning similar actions
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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:08 PM
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This is by far one of the most outrageous plans I've ever heard of. It is a direct attack on the freedom of speech and would allow the MSM to get a stranglehold on all information going out to the public. Not to mention killing any website not dialed in to the Good Ole Boys network, including our beloved ATS. I know that people would not stand for these kind of restrictions, unless forced into it by the PTB. How might this happen? They could be "convinced" that the internet is an evil place of child pornography, sexual predators and terrorist networks that needs to be restricted for the "safety" of everyone. Can anyone say false flag cyberattack? Makes you wonder what these news stories concerning Chinese hackers are really all about. All I know is, we can never let this happen.

www.americanfreepress.net
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:15 PM
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all those who do not believe that by 2012 we will live on a prison planet, please check these schemes and othe threads about camps ect being raised across Northern America.

2012.......



2012 is the year we cease to be humans, for we will enter the age of being treated worse than animals.

A boot, stamping on a face again and again, for all eternity.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:26 PM
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I'm not big on doomsday predictions or prophecies, but I have to admit I have seen more "official" government and organization data with some seriously bad mojo scheduled for 2012 in the past year or so that I'm starting to wonder what gives with the date. 2012 is either gonna be another Y2K or else we're all royally screwed.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:26 PM
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It's sad how they are always using fear against us. "We will plant micro chips into your skin, put you in prison camps, spend your tax money looking for a guy in the caves and monitor what you do on the internet because of the threat of "terrorists".


We can't let this happen! Today it's our internet being censored, what the hell will tomorrow bring?! Microphones into our homes listening to whatever we say and if they hear something they don't like, they will put us in jail?!


I am 17, and i have my whole life ahead of me, and i want to be a free man my whole life, i want my rights as a human being to stay and not be eliminated!



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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Ill take this and the website with a grain of salt since Bell nor Telus have released any info about this yet.Besides i dont care if sites like youtube and such are made into pay sites.Maybe it will cut down on the hatred and lies being posted about people ,organizations and govts.Just ask any movie star about fame and what its done in the name of "free speech".

Im glad im not famous because i would already done something rash to those photograhers following me around everywhere.The internet is no different.Everything can and is tracked on the net since its inception.So this is nothing new trust me.The net is like TV cable.If you want certain services you pay for it.No threat ,no loss of freedom of speech nothing.Ill still be able to go outside and talk to my neighbour about anything i feel like.Nope no cops coming at me with billyclubs trying to suppress what i have to say!Get real people.

P.S To all you worried about the net being invasive into your home?Heres a simple solution,unplugged your internet cable.Problem solved.Yeesh.Chicken littles or what?



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:32 PM
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No prob. I'm on Cogeco.

That said, this is a non-issue. This is not meant to insult anyone but scare tactics like this get little attention in Canada. Another reason that the Harper gov't is doomed. They just don't get the pulse of the nation.

Edit: And yes, big biz is as attached to gov. here as it is elsewhere.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by intrepid]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:43 PM
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No prob. I'm on Cogeco.


Ditto...


But of course if this does happen..they may follow suit.
got my fingers crossed!!!!



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:52 PM
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neither was I until I started reading through official files and they kept hammering on again and again about 2012 project this, 2011 project must be done by that.......

Its not even remotley funny at all.

2012 is going to be bad mojo for us all - net closing down, travel getting harder, ID cards and biometrics forced from every one...

This is not looking rosy at all.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by Dan Tanna]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 06:58 PM
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I hope we can get rid of Harper soon.

And I agree that I don't think Canadians would stand for this. I for one would cancel all internet service if this happened. We got to fight back the only way we can: hit 'em in the pocketbook.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 07:01 PM
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yeah thats a good idea. Switch off your own net and don't make them do it for you.

I really do think though that all this 'canadians won't stand for it' talk is a bloody laugh. Every western nations people are rolling over like pigs in muck at all and any laws passed.

Or.... 1.2 MILLION people protested in the UK against the iraq war... and they still did it any way...

because as Tony Blair says, we do what i think is right, not what they think is right.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by Dan Tanna]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 07:03 PM
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I am with Mountain Cable. Unless they get bought out by Telus or Bell I am safe. We have way too many customers for the to just shut down and walk away.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 07:10 PM
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If this does happen, it will only be a matter of time before people are hosting their own dial-in services that are networked together, until eventually it is larger and more free then the "internet", possibly will be coined the "outernet". This will be a underground internet for the people who do not want to have their choices limited.

The internet was made to share information - ALL information, and sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. This movement will essentially turn the internet into a bidding war between companies, with providers fueled by greed. The only websites most of the population would be able to afford, due to the extinction of the middle class that is coming ever so soon, will be the ones included in the standard package. People will not be able to afford to visit independent media websites, nor someones blog. Websites like ATS will lose so many people that it no longer becomes viable to keep it running. Eventually the smaller websites will have to shut down. Think of WalMart pushing out the smaller mom and pop type stores, they just cannot compete any more, and when it becomes futile to continue, they will eventually close. Again and again this will happen until the only websites that exist will be the ones that can afford to be part of the standard package.

I for one have the technical know-how to allow for others to dial into my box via phone lines. Think of a few thousand other people with this ability and eventually we will have our own "outernet". Sure, it may be slower. It also may not have your favorite websites due to being on a separate network, but by god it will be the epitome of freedom. It will allow its users to exchange information without having Mommy and Daddy (the Government) deciding what is or isn't allowed.

We will use the internet for our mainstream websites and general browsing. We will use the outernet for our unbiased news, free speech, and the right to privacy - without having a central party, such as these ISPs who will be catering to this horrible agenda, monitoring our every move.

They say its to protect us. Bull----. It's to silence us. They have seen the amount of momentum that can be gained through internet groups. They have seen that their agendas can be revealed to millions of people with the click of a mouse.

You can give someone a tool that can benefit the world, but the second that tool becomes a problem to the powers that be, it must be removed from the hands of its users.



[edit on 2-7-2008 by deadline527]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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I do not disbelieve this but we need a better source than that website



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 07:18 PM
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You can say, well it's not going to affect me because I'm not on that system, but honestly how long until your ISP does the exact same thing? Comcast and AT&T are already trying to find ways to limit bandwidth hogs who sit and watch videos all day. I posted a thread yesterday here which talks about a new program for downloading music legally for free again. How long until millions of people are doing that again? There's only going to be more and more people each year using the internet and the bandwidth is going to get shrunk to zero. It would not surprise me in the least if this story is true and that they are all in cahoots together. There's just too much money to be made and that much more control over the population to be had.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 07:46 PM
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The damage Harper can do with only a minority government.


Harper reminds me of the overly strict parent that made your own parents seem like saints when you were a kid. And you felt really bad for your friend.
Canadians deserve tough love!
He will not get a majority, too many people don't like him.
I just hope Dion doesn't make himself unpopular, giving harper votes by default again!

If we have to pay more for the internet, I would like to know why we already pay too much for internet service.
The want to milk the poor people even harder, like a dehydrated milk cow with the nipple suction turned to turbo-suck mode.

Even TV has gotten worse, science channels that now have shows like 'wife swap' 'home decorating' you know the crap, cheaply produced shows with no depth.
And why is that? Because the good stuff on TV you have to pay extra for now, those extra channels. I remember years ago, movies in the Theatre made it to TV within a year, now (if ever) it may be years later.
So when they talk about extra pay content, it just means the good stuff gets shifted and the crap is what we get for 'basic'.
At least CSI is a good show.

PS, My website will be in the 'basic' plan on the internet.



posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 08:34 AM
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Okay... I've seen this story before and I call BS.
Basically it all seems to originate from these Belgian "I Power" people, who seem to run a, semi porn/Myspace wannabee site under the guise of internet activism.

If you check these links there is a bunch of stuff about subscribing to see this Tanya chick naked, and a bunch of semi-erotic webchat type of videos:

ipower.ning.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow"> ipower.ning.com...

And the Youtube Profile:



It would appear that they've made up the whole "Net censorship" thing to promote their dubious site...

I would not give this the time of day until it is reported by a more credible source, which I seriously doubt will happen....



posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 09:09 AM
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We will all have to cancel our internet prescriptions as thi sort of censorship and regulation occurs...

Not to worry; Entrepreneurs will bust out the old servers from the 90's and start dial-up service again on a whole new internet. It will be tough to get back up and running, but with the free-market system and small independent isps, it will be like 1997 all over again.

Then the little guys will get more bandwidth to support cable and dsl and the new, freer internet will be up and running in direct competition with the Fascist Internmentnet 2.

Bust out your 56k modems, they are going to be all the rage soon.

laissez-faire - the only way



posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 10:25 AM
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Haha. If worst comes to work I'll resurrect my 90's BBS.

I have always had a vision of the world becoming a huge wireless intranet, where in every neighbourhood someone is running a router with DHCP, which connects to the next popular router in the next suburb. Sort of like a Peer-to-peer network. Everyone joins the popular server. With a 5 watt dB transmitter, this wouldn't be a problem.

A problem may be packet sniffing, but I'm sure some ultra bit encryption could protect with allot of confidence.

We actually have the technology now for this, and I have had this vision for ages, but the equipment is expensive and not in demand. I don't see why it would be though because we still have the internet.

There is actually a manufacturer I know called Max-Stream. max-stream.net . They sell old skool connectivity devices. I have one of there wireless modems for my UAV that I use to control via raw commands thanks to the modems RS-232 connection to its logic controller.

anyhow, back to what I am saying. It would be bad for the internet to go, but us computer enthousiasts create the technology. We'll always be ahead of the Government. Always!



posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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As an American living in Canada (and no I am not on the run - I got tired of watching personal freedoms disappear in the U.S). I can state without equivocation that personal freedom does not exist in Canada.
Canada, is like all British Common Lack of Wealth countries in that these people, like the Brits, are more than willing to give up freedom for some sort of temporary safety.



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